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Cork GAA: The Sleeping Giant

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Cork GAA has had to take the backseat for a while now and been forced to witness their nearest and dearest steal the limelight.

Yes they have shown flashes of their true selves but nothing on the level where they want to be. I say it's stung that renowned Cork pride of theirs a bit.

They know well they have all the necessary variables to put it right. It must frustrate them greatly.

If ever there was a sleeping giant, Cork is the perfect example in the GAA world.

Given the news that they are moving towards a far more cohesive and well thought out approach, it bodes very well for their future prospects in my humble opinion. They have ambitions to raise 10's of millions through various initiatives across this decade which they then intend to pump back into themselves.

They with the GAA have invested 10's of millions into a new modern stadia, they have a strong club scene, they have the playing population and the self generating revenue streams on top of an already excellent sponsor to bring in the funding.

They have all the raw material and victorious muscle memory there to produce something very successful.

All the components are there.. bring that all together under their current professional leaning cohesive strategy, and there's massive potential to get Cork GAA back to where they want to be.

Stand back and take notice. Cork are aiming to get back up on their perch and could soon be the coming force across the board.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 12/05/2021 12:07:04    2341246

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Cork GAA has had to take the backseat for a while now and been forced to witness their nearest and dearest steal the limelight.

Yes they have shown flashes of their true selves but nothing on the level where they want to be. I say it's stung that renowned Cork pride of theirs a bit.

They know well they have all the necessary variables to put it right. It must frustrate them greatly.

If ever there was a sleeping giant, Cork is the perfect example in the GAA world.

Given the news that they are moving towards a far more cohesive and well thought out approach, it bodes very well for their future prospects in my humble opinion. They have ambitions to raise 10's of millions through various initiatives across this decade which they then intend to pump back into themselves.

They with the GAA have invested 10's of millions into a new modern stadia, they have a strong club scene, they have the playing population and the self generating revenue streams on top of an already excellent sponsor to bring in the funding.

They have all the raw material and victorious muscle memory there to produce something very successful.

All the components are there.. bring that all together under their current professional leaning cohesive strategy, and there's massive potential to get Cork GAA back to where they want to be.

Stand back and take notice. Cork are aiming to get back up on their perch and could soon be the coming force across the board."
Must have been humbling alright to realise that a bit of work was needed and they can't expect success just because they're "Cork"...

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1062 - 12/05/2021 13:12:03    2341256

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They'll definitly look the part anyway when Castore are making their jerseys next year .

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1908 - 12/05/2021 13:12:25    2341258

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Cork GAA has had to take the backseat for a while now and been forced to witness their nearest and dearest steal the limelight.

Yes they have shown flashes of their true selves but nothing on the level where they want to be. I say it's stung that renowned Cork pride of theirs a bit.

They know well they have all the necessary variables to put it right. It must frustrate them greatly.

If ever there was a sleeping giant, Cork is the perfect example in the GAA world.

Given the news that they are moving towards a far more cohesive and well thought out approach, it bodes very well for their future prospects in my humble opinion. They have ambitions to raise 10's of millions through various initiatives across this decade which they then intend to pump back into themselves.

They with the GAA have invested 10's of millions into a new modern stadia, they have a strong club scene, they have the playing population and the self generating revenue streams on top of an already excellent sponsor to bring in the funding.

They have all the raw material and victorious muscle memory there to produce something very successful.

All the components are there.. bring that all together under their current professional leaning cohesive strategy, and there's massive potential to get Cork GAA back to where they want to be.

Stand back and take notice. Cork are aiming to get back up on their perch and could soon be the coming force across the board."
Are you talking their hurlers or footballers?

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 12/05/2021 16:52:38    2341308

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Cork GAA has had to take the backseat for a while now and been forced to witness their nearest and dearest steal the limelight.

Yes they have shown flashes of their true selves but nothing on the level where they want to be. I say it's stung that renowned Cork pride of theirs a bit.

They know well they have all the necessary variables to put it right. It must frustrate them greatly.

If ever there was a sleeping giant, Cork is the perfect example in the GAA world.

Given the news that they are moving towards a far more cohesive and well thought out approach, it bodes very well for their future prospects in my humble opinion. They have ambitions to raise 10's of millions through various initiatives across this decade which they then intend to pump back into themselves.

They with the GAA have invested 10's of millions into a new modern stadia, they have a strong club scene, they have the playing population and the self generating revenue streams on top of an already excellent sponsor to bring in the funding.

They have all the raw material and victorious muscle memory there to produce something very successful.

All the components are there.. bring that all together under their current professional leaning cohesive strategy, and there's massive potential to get Cork GAA back to where they want to be.

Stand back and take notice. Cork are aiming to get back up on their perch and could soon be the coming force across the board."
Yes Jimbo you could be right. However Cork have nt been as dormant as folk think particularly in hurling. Cork hurlers remind mé of Dublin footballers pre 2011.Many say Dublin were in the doldrums from 95 to 2011 but on a few occasions were very unlucky. This is the longest period in my lifetime that Cork hurlers have not won an all ireland but again have been unlucky on a few occasions especially 2013. Dublin came good eventually and so will Cork in the hurling. Also their footballers will also be top contenders again too.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3675 - 12/05/2021 17:27:07    2341313

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It always surprises me when talking about the demise, real or imagined, of Cork hurling, that the growth of rugby and soccer in the city is never mentioned.
Surely the success of munster Rugby over the course of the last 2 generations, and the advent of the Premier league behemoth has taken a load of young talent away from Cork gaa.
Dennis Irwin once said that when he was growing up every young lad wanted to hurl for Cork,, "at least they did back then". Always stuck with me, that quote.
I've barely ever been to Cork, so I'd like to hear from some Cork posters on this.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1706 - 12/05/2021 19:06:54    2341329

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Yes Jimbo you could be right. However Cork have nt been as dormant as folk think particularly in hurling. Cork hurlers remind mé of Dublin footballers pre 2011.Many say Dublin were in the doldrums from 95 to 2011 but on a few occasions were very unlucky. This is the longest period in my lifetime that Cork hurlers have not won an all ireland but again have been unlucky on a few occasions especially 2013. Dublin came good eventually and so will Cork in the hurling. Also their footballers will also be top contenders again too."
"This is the longest period in my lifetime that Cork hurlers have not won an all ireland"

If Cork don't win the hurling All-Ireland this year, it'll be 16 years since their last win. The longest time Cork have gone without an AI win prior to this was also 16 years, 1903 to 1919.

Of the other two (Kilkenny and Tipperary) of 'the big three'. It's well known, unless you've never met someone from Tipperary, that Tipp have won an AI in every decade since it's inception. But, they went 18 years without an AI win between 1971 and 1989.

Kilkenny didn't win their first AI until 1904, which means they waited 17 years since the start in 1887. But since then the longest they have gone between AI wins is 10 years.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2461 - 12/05/2021 21:23:07    2341357

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  ""This is the longest period in my lifetime that Cork hurlers have not won an all ireland"

If Cork don't win the hurling All-Ireland this year, it'll be 16 years since their last win. The longest time Cork have gone without an AI win prior to this was also 16 years, 1903 to 1919.

Of the other two (Kilkenny and Tipperary) of 'the big three'. It's well known, unless you've never met someone from Tipperary, that Tipp have won an AI in every decade since it's inception. But, they went 18 years without an AI win between 1971 and 1989.

Kilkenny didn't win their first AI until 1904, which means they waited 17 years since the start in 1887. But since then the longest they have gone between AI wins is 10 years."
Good man Cockney thanks. My own view though is that while Cork are not winning they are still there or thereabouts just like Dublin in their 16 year hiatus..It's not like Offaly that have gone off the radar at mó. I mean I would nt be shocked to see Cork win the all ireland this year although I know there are a few teams ahead of them.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3675 - 12/05/2021 21:43:04    2341361

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  ""This is the longest period in my lifetime that Cork hurlers have not won an all ireland"

If Cork don't win the hurling All-Ireland this year, it'll be 16 years since their last win. The longest time Cork have gone without an AI win prior to this was also 16 years, 1903 to 1919.

Of the other two (Kilkenny and Tipperary) of 'the big three'. It's well known, unless you've never met someone from Tipperary, that Tipp have won an AI in every decade since it's inception. But, they went 18 years without an AI win between 1971 and 1989.

Kilkenny didn't win their first AI until 1904, which means they waited 17 years since the start in 1887. But since then the longest they have gone between AI wins is 10 years."
KIlkenny were one of the last counties to move from cricket to hurling,cricket was the main game played in Ireland before hurling was officially set up with the GAA.Cork and particularly Tipp had a head start on KK but once KK relinquished the cricket and took up the hurling they soon became a force.

ONdeDITCH (Limerick) - Posts: 873 - 12/05/2021 23:21:25    2341376

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Replying To ONdeDITCH:  "
Replying To Cockney_Cat:  ""This is the longest period in my lifetime that Cork hurlers have not won an all ireland"

If Cork don't win the hurling All-Ireland this year, it'll be 16 years since their last win. The longest time Cork have gone without an AI win prior to this was also 16 years, 1903 to 1919.

Of the other two (Kilkenny and Tipperary) of 'the big three'. It's well known, unless you've never met someone from Tipperary, that Tipp have won an AI in every decade since it's inception. But, they went 18 years without an AI win between 1971 and 1989.

Kilkenny didn't win their first AI until 1904, which means they waited 17 years since the start in 1887. But since then the longest they have gone between AI wins is 10 years."
KIlkenny were one of the last counties to move from cricket to hurling,cricket was the main game played in Ireland before hurling was officially set up with the GAA.Cork and particularly Tipp had a head start on KK but once KK relinquished the cricket and took up the hurling they soon became a force."
The history of hurling in Kilkenny is complicated, but you're right about the cricket. But also, football was the more popular than hurling in the county after the formation of the GAA. In fact, the first ever football match played under GAA rules, was between Callan and Kilkenny in 1885.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2461 - 13/05/2021 10:05:27    2341409

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "
Replying To Cockney_Cat:  ""This is the longest period in my lifetime that Cork hurlers have not won an all ireland"

If Cork don't win the hurling All-Ireland this year, it'll be 16 years since their last win. The longest time Cork have gone without an AI win prior to this was also 16 years, 1903 to 1919.

Of the other two (Kilkenny and Tipperary) of 'the big three'. It's well known, unless you've never met someone from Tipperary, that Tipp have won an AI in every decade since it's inception. But, they went 18 years without an AI win between 1971 and 1989.

Kilkenny didn't win their first AI until 1904, which means they waited 17 years since the start in 1887. But since then the longest they have gone between AI wins is 10 years."
Good man Cockney thanks. My own view though is that while Cork are not winning they are still there or thereabouts just like Dublin in their 16 year hiatus..It's not like Offaly that have gone off the radar at mó. I mean I would nt be shocked to see Cork win the all ireland this year although I know there are a few teams ahead of them."
I posted on here a year or so ago about missing Cork performing on the mainstage. From a Kilkenny point of view, there is a long rivalry and history of great, closely fought games against Cork. No two teams have met in more All-Ireland finals. Cork and Kilkenny have clashed on hurling's biggest stage on 24 occasions.

While it's great to see the likes of Limerick, Galway, Clare etc. playing top class hurling and winning All-Irelands. I miss the great clashes between the black and amber, and the blood and bandages.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2461 - 13/05/2021 10:23:31    2341410

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "
Replying To ONdeDITCH:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  ""This is the longest period in my lifetime that Cork hurlers have not won an all ireland"

If Cork don't win the hurling All-Ireland this year, it'll be 16 years since their last win. The longest time Cork have gone without an AI win prior to this was also 16 years, 1903 to 1919.

Of the other two (Kilkenny and Tipperary) of 'the big three'. It's well known, unless you've never met someone from Tipperary, that Tipp have won an AI in every decade since it's inception. But, they went 18 years without an AI win between 1971 and 1989.

Kilkenny didn't win their first AI until 1904, which means they waited 17 years since the start in 1887. But since then the longest they have gone between AI wins is 10 years."
KIlkenny were one of the last counties to move from cricket to hurling,cricket was the main game played in Ireland before hurling was officially set up with the GAA.Cork and particularly Tipp had a head start on KK but once KK relinquished the cricket and took up the hurling they soon became a force."
The history of hurling in Kilkenny is complicated, but you're right about the cricket. But also, football was the more popular than hurling in the county after the formation of the GAA. In fact, the first ever football match played under GAA rules, was between Callan and Kilkenny in 1885."]I forgot to add this link, it's a good read if your interested.

Kilkenny: the making of a hurling tradition link

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2461 - 13/05/2021 10:26:51    2341414

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "
Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "[quote=ONdeDITCH:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  ""This is the longest period in my lifetime that Cork hurlers have not won an all ireland"

If Cork don't win the hurling All-Ireland this year, it'll be 16 years since their last win. The longest time Cork have gone without an AI win prior to this was also 16 years, 1903 to 1919.

Of the other two (Kilkenny and Tipperary) of 'the big three'. It's well known, unless you've never met someone from Tipperary, that Tipp have won an AI in every decade since it's inception. But, they went 18 years without an AI win between 1971 and 1989.

Kilkenny didn't win their first AI until 1904, which means they waited 17 years since the start in 1887. But since then the longest they have gone between AI wins is 10 years."
KIlkenny were one of the last counties to move from cricket to hurling,cricket was the main game played in Ireland before hurling was officially set up with the GAA.Cork and particularly Tipp had a head start on KK but once KK relinquished the cricket and took up the hurling they soon became a force."
The history of hurling in Kilkenny is complicated, but you're right about the cricket. But also, football was the more popular than hurling in the county after the formation of the GAA. In fact, the first ever football match played under GAA rules, was between Callan and Kilkenny in 1885."]I forgot to add this link, it's a good read if your interested.

Kilkenny: the making of a hurling tradition link"]Kilkenny have 3 Leinster SFC titles, the last back in the first decades of the 20th Century. Then hurling became the dominant sport.

MicktheMiller (Offaly) - Posts: 421 - 13/05/2021 10:43:44    2341419

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "
Replying To CiarraiMick:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  ""This is the longest period in my lifetime that Cork hurlers have not won an all ireland"

If Cork don't win the hurling All-Ireland this year, it'll be 16 years since their last win. The longest time Cork have gone without an AI win prior to this was also 16 years, 1903 to 1919.

Of the other two (Kilkenny and Tipperary) of 'the big three'. It's well known, unless you've never met someone from Tipperary, that Tipp have won an AI in every decade since it's inception. But, they went 18 years without an AI win between 1971 and 1989.

Kilkenny didn't win their first AI until 1904, which means they waited 17 years since the start in 1887. But since then the longest they have gone between AI wins is 10 years."
Good man Cockney thanks. My own view though is that while Cork are not winning they are still there or thereabouts just like Dublin in their 16 year hiatus..It's not like Offaly that have gone off the radar at mó. I mean I would nt be shocked to see Cork win the all ireland this year although I know there are a few teams ahead of them."
I posted on here a year or so ago about missing Cork performing on the mainstage. From a Kilkenny point of view, there is a long rivalry and history of great, closely fought games against Cork. No two teams have met in more All-Ireland finals. Cork and Kilkenny have clashed on hurling's biggest stage on 24 occasions.

While it's great to see the likes of Limerick, Galway, Clare etc. playing top class hurling and winning All-Irelands. I miss the great clashes between the black and amber, and the blood and bandages."]You need to get that Stockholm Syndrome sorted out Cockney_Cat. The best thing the game has is different winners and competitors.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1732 - 13/05/2021 14:13:30    2341478

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I think the quoting posts isn't working correctly admins.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1732 - 13/05/2021 14:22:41    2341480

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "
Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "[quote=CiarraiMick:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  ""This is the longest period in my lifetime that Cork hurlers have not won an all ireland"

If Cork don't win the hurling All-Ireland this year, it'll be 16 years since their last win. The longest time Cork have gone without an AI win prior to this was also 16 years, 1903 to 1919.

Of the other two (Kilkenny and Tipperary) of 'the big three'. It's well known, unless you've never met someone from Tipperary, that Tipp have won an AI in every decade since it's inception. But, they went 18 years without an AI win between 1971 and 1989.

Kilkenny didn't win their first AI until 1904, which means they waited 17 years since the start in 1887. But since then the longest they have gone between AI wins is 10 years."
Good man Cockney thanks. My own view though is that while Cork are not winning they are still there or thereabouts just like Dublin in their 16 year hiatus..It's not like Offaly that have gone off the radar at mó. I mean I would nt be shocked to see Cork win the all ireland this year although I know there are a few teams ahead of them."
I posted on here a year or so ago about missing Cork performing on the mainstage. From a Kilkenny point of view, there is a long rivalry and history of great, closely fought games against Cork. No two teams have met in more All-Ireland finals. Cork and Kilkenny have clashed on hurling's biggest stage on 24 occasions.

While it's great to see the likes of Limerick, Galway, Clare etc. playing top class hurling and winning All-Irelands. I miss the great clashes between the black and amber, and the blood and bandages."]You need to get that Stockholm Syndrome sorted out Cockney_Cat. The best thing the game has is different winners and competitors."]Stockholm Syndrome? Of course, the best thing the game has is different winners and competitors, I never said otherwise. But you can't beat that extra bit of frisson in the players and fans when old rivals or neighbours clash, especially when in a final.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2461 - 13/05/2021 14:31:17    2341485

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "
Replying To StoreysTash:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  "[quote=CiarraiMick:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  ""This is the longest period in my lifetime that Cork hurlers have not won an all ireland"

If Cork don't win the hurling All-Ireland this year, it'll be 16 years since their last win. The longest time Cork have gone without an AI win prior to this was also 16 years, 1903 to 1919.

Of the other two (Kilkenny and Tipperary) of 'the big three'. It's well known, unless you've never met someone from Tipperary, that Tipp have won an AI in every decade since it's inception. But, they went 18 years without an AI win between 1971 and 1989.

Kilkenny didn't win their first AI until 1904, which means they waited 17 years since the start in 1887. But since then the longest they have gone between AI wins is 10 years."
Good man Cockney thanks. My own view though is that while Cork are not winning they are still there or thereabouts just like Dublin in their 16 year hiatus..It's not like Offaly that have gone off the radar at mó. I mean I would nt be shocked to see Cork win the all ireland this year although I know there are a few teams ahead of them."
I posted on here a year or so ago about missing Cork performing on the mainstage. From a Kilkenny point of view, there is a long rivalry and history of great, closely fought games against Cork. No two teams have met in more All-Ireland finals. Cork and Kilkenny have clashed on hurling's biggest stage on 24 occasions.

While it's great to see the likes of Limerick, Galway, Clare etc. playing top class hurling and winning All-Irelands. I miss the great clashes between the black and amber, and the blood and bandages."]You need to get that Stockholm Syndrome sorted out Cockney_Cat. The best thing the game has is different winners and competitors."]Stockholm Syndrome? Of course, the best thing the game has is different winners and competitors, I never said otherwise. But you can't beat that extra bit of frisson in the players and fans when old rivals or neighbours clash, especially when in a final."]Exactly, people, myself included, often celebrate traditionally weaker counties getting good results and winning all Irelands, but as much as hurling needs competition, it also needs the big three.

The tipperary kilkenny rivalry from about 09 to 2016 was the best part of the all Ireland championship in that time imo.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1706 - 13/05/2021 19:26:26    2341569

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Replying To Galway9801:  "
Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "[quote=StoreysTash:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  "[quote=CiarraiMick:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  ""This is the longest period in my lifetime that Cork hurlers have not won an all ireland"

If Cork don't win the hurling All-Ireland this year, it'll be 16 years since their last win. The longest time Cork have gone without an AI win prior to this was also 16 years, 1903 to 1919.

Of the other two (Kilkenny and Tipperary) of 'the big three'. It's well known, unless you've never met someone from Tipperary, that Tipp have won an AI in every decade since it's inception. But, they went 18 years without an AI win between 1971 and 1989.

Kilkenny didn't win their first AI until 1904, which means they waited 17 years since the start in 1887. But since then the longest they have gone between AI wins is 10 years."
Good man Cockney thanks. My own view though is that while Cork are not winning they are still there or thereabouts just like Dublin in their 16 year hiatus..It's not like Offaly that have gone off the radar at mó. I mean I would nt be shocked to see Cork win the all ireland this year although I know there are a few teams ahead of them."
I posted on here a year or so ago about missing Cork performing on the mainstage. From a Kilkenny point of view, there is a long rivalry and history of great, closely fought games against Cork. No two teams have met in more All-Ireland finals. Cork and Kilkenny have clashed on hurling's biggest stage on 24 occasions.

While it's great to see the likes of Limerick, Galway, Clare etc. playing top class hurling and winning All-Irelands. I miss the great clashes between the black and amber, and the blood and bandages."]You need to get that Stockholm Syndrome sorted out Cockney_Cat. The best thing the game has is different winners and competitors."]Stockholm Syndrome? Of course, the best thing the game has is different winners and competitors, I never said otherwise. But you can't beat that extra bit of frisson in the players and fans when old rivals or neighbours clash, especially when in a final."]Exactly, people, myself included, often celebrate traditionally weaker counties getting good results and winning all Irelands, but as much as hurling needs competition, it also needs the big three.

The tipperary kilkenny rivalry from about 09 to 2016 was the best part of the all Ireland championship in that time imo."]The simple fact is for the first thirteen years of this Century and four times since one of the big three have won McCarthy. A nice long sabbatical from them would do them do the game in general no harm at all. I would far prefer to see Waterford Laois or Dublin break their ducks than hanker after some vague paradise that existed when the big three were total kings.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4321 - 14/05/2021 09:30:20    2341631

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "
Replying To Galway9801:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  "[quote=StoreysTash:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  "[quote=CiarraiMick:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  ""This is the longest period in my lifetime that Cork hurlers have not won an all ireland"

If Cork don't win the hurling All-Ireland this year, it'll be 16 years since their last win. The longest time Cork have gone without an AI win prior to this was also 16 years, 1903 to 1919.

Of the other two (Kilkenny and Tipperary) of 'the big three'. It's well known, unless you've never met someone from Tipperary, that Tipp have won an AI in every decade since it's inception. But, they went 18 years without an AI win between 1971 and 1989.

Kilkenny didn't win their first AI until 1904, which means they waited 17 years since the start in 1887. But since then the longest they have gone between AI wins is 10 years."
Good man Cockney thanks. My own view though is that while Cork are not winning they are still there or thereabouts just like Dublin in their 16 year hiatus..It's not like Offaly that have gone off the radar at mó. I mean I would nt be shocked to see Cork win the all ireland this year although I know there are a few teams ahead of them."
I posted on here a year or so ago about missing Cork performing on the mainstage. From a Kilkenny point of view, there is a long rivalry and history of great, closely fought games against Cork. No two teams have met in more All-Ireland finals. Cork and Kilkenny have clashed on hurling's biggest stage on 24 occasions.

While it's great to see the likes of Limerick, Galway, Clare etc. playing top class hurling and winning All-Irelands. I miss the great clashes between the black and amber, and the blood and bandages."]You need to get that Stockholm Syndrome sorted out Cockney_Cat. The best thing the game has is different winners and competitors."]Stockholm Syndrome? Of course, the best thing the game has is different winners and competitors, I never said otherwise. But you can't beat that extra bit of frisson in the players and fans when old rivals or neighbours clash, especially when in a final."]Exactly, people, myself included, often celebrate traditionally weaker counties getting good results and winning all Irelands, but as much as hurling needs competition, it also needs the big three.

The tipperary kilkenny rivalry from about 09 to 2016 was the best part of the all Ireland championship in that time imo."]The simple fact is for the first thirteen years of this Century and four times since one of the big three have won McCarthy. A nice long sabbatical from them would do them do the game in general no harm at all. I would far prefer to see Waterford Laois or Dublin break their ducks than hanker after some vague paradise that existed when the big three were total kings."]Paradise? Who said anything about frigging "paradise" lol. I was just pointing out the fact that people tend to forget the contributions that the big three make to the game in general, and that they shouldn't be taken for granted.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1706 - 14/05/2021 10:44:02    2341650

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "
Replying To Galway9801:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  "[quote=StoreysTash:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  "[quote=CiarraiMick:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  ""This is the longest period in my lifetime that Cork hurlers have not won an all ireland"

If Cork don't win the hurling All-Ireland this year, it'll be 16 years since their last win. The longest time Cork have gone without an AI win prior to this was also 16 years, 1903 to 1919.

Of the other two (Kilkenny and Tipperary) of 'the big three'. It's well known, unless you've never met someone from Tipperary, that Tipp have won an AI in every decade since it's inception. But, they went 18 years without an AI win between 1971 and 1989.

Kilkenny didn't win their first AI until 1904, which means they waited 17 years since the start in 1887. But since then the longest they have gone between AI wins is 10 years."
Good man Cockney thanks. My own view though is that while Cork are not winning they are still there or thereabouts just like Dublin in their 16 year hiatus..It's not like Offaly that have gone off the radar at mó. I mean I would nt be shocked to see Cork win the all ireland this year although I know there are a few teams ahead of them."
I posted on here a year or so ago about missing Cork performing on the mainstage. From a Kilkenny point of view, there is a long rivalry and history of great, closely fought games against Cork. No two teams have met in more All-Ireland finals. Cork and Kilkenny have clashed on hurling's biggest stage on 24 occasions.

While it's great to see the likes of Limerick, Galway, Clare etc. playing top class hurling and winning All-Irelands. I miss the great clashes between the black and amber, and the blood and bandages."]You need to get that Stockholm Syndrome sorted out Cockney_Cat. The best thing the game has is different winners and competitors."]Stockholm Syndrome? Of course, the best thing the game has is different winners and competitors, I never said otherwise. But you can't beat that extra bit of frisson in the players and fans when old rivals or neighbours clash, especially when in a final."]Exactly, people, myself included, often celebrate traditionally weaker counties getting good results and winning all Irelands, but as much as hurling needs competition, it also needs the big three.

The tipperary kilkenny rivalry from about 09 to 2016 was the best part of the all Ireland championship in that time imo."]The simple fact is for the first thirteen years of this Century and four times since one of the big three have won McCarthy. A nice long sabbatical from them would do them do the game in general no harm at all. I would far prefer to see Waterford Laois or Dublin break their ducks than hanker after some vague paradise that existed when the big three were total kings."]Who said anything about hankering after a "vague paradise". Yet again you are making things up.

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