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The lad doing the Wexford v Laois game didn't get the memo both sides doing it and none being called.
zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1804 - 09/05/2021 14:34:20 2340710 Link 1 |
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Zinny I just watched that game and ref did it completely different to Colm Lyons in limerick..he left tackles go and it made for a much better game..I'll watch cork/Waterford now and see what happens there.. CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2214 - 09/05/2021 15:28:47 2340724 Link 0 |
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Based on the first half there is no pattern to how its all been referred - perhaps less frees but then there is less rucks and both teams are moving the ball before they they take contact. I though Waterford were a bit hard done by on a couple of calls where it was obvious the Cork had was pulling the jersey. However back to the original point - if you have Horgan in your side why would you want to play on even 90m from your own goal - he has missed one you might have expected but why not take the free and point, play on and it may not happen.
zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1804 - 09/05/2021 16:42:13 2340758 Link 0 |
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Well Joanne Cantwell asked the panel 'are referees going to clamp down on Limerick?' Seriously do no team foul except Limerick commit fouls' They were on about Hegarty and the 'JOE CANNING INCIDENT' last year- completely oblivious to the fact that his own man put him in casualty after a wild and reckless tackle.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 09/05/2021 17:43:59 2340773 Link 1 |
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Are you serious? Joanne is referring to the first half where Hegarty 'clips' Joe late with no free or yellow given. We know Joe got injured in second half by his own man. (J Cooney )
conordee (Galway) - Posts: 440 - 09/05/2021 18:07:33 2340780 Link 1 |
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Not taking from Cork but Waterford have more impact players to come in. Though one could say that most are not defenders. Conor Gleeson is not a forward but a tremendous man marker a few year ago. Only being 7 points out after conceding 5 goals was a wonder. Nolan was not to blame but I think O'Keeffe might have got to two of them. The experience will do him good. He has a bit to go in placing his long puck outs compared to Tommy Quaid. We got a glimpse of Kiely and we saw what he can do. Austin Gleeson best player on the field and Kieran Bennett not far behind. All in all Cork were better through the field and deserved the win. Patrick Horgan will be a handful for all comers and Prunty did well to contain him at all. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2658 - 09/05/2021 18:08:30 2340781 Link 0 |
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It's funny when ever a new rule comes in the reason by some is always linked to the top team. Personally I think it went too far and went from no punishment to a double whammy that will cause controversy. Just increase the penalty area by adding a line straight across the field 40 meters from goal with a yellow card. Easier to administrate for officials.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2658 - 09/05/2021 18:17:50 2340783 Link 0 |
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It's funny when ever a new rule comes in the reason by some is always linked to the top team. Personally I think it went too far and went from no punishment to a double whammy that will cause controversy. Just increase the penalty area by adding a line straight across the field 40 meters from goal with a yellow card. Easier to administrate for officials.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2658 - 09/05/2021 18:28:06 2340787 Link 0 |
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Are you serious? Joanne is referring to the first half where Hegarty 'clips' Joe late with no free or yellow given. We know Joe got injured in second half by his own man. (J Cooney )"]Well l have been watching the Sunday Game since it started and I have never heard a similar question asked in relation to any of the teams that were at the top in Hurling or Football until now. Kilkenny were in top for most of the first decade and a half of this century and I certainly never heard their conduct coming under the same scrutiny. To ask in complete isolation if referees are going to clampdown on one particular team strikes me as very very unbalanced Sports Journalism indeed.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 09/05/2021 20:05:42 2340803 Link 0 |
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Are you serious? Joanne is referring to the first half where Hegarty 'clips' Joe late with no free or yellow given. We know Joe got injured in second half by his own man. (J Cooney )"]Well l have been watching the Sunday Game since it started and I have never heard a similar question asked in relation to any of the teams that were at the top in Hurling or Football until now. Kilkenny were in top for most of the first decade and a half of this century and I certainly never heard their conduct coming under the same scrutiny. To ask in complete isolation if referees are going to clampdown on one particular team strikes me as very very unbalanced Sports Journalism indeed."]I totally understand your point about Joanne specifically bringing up Limerick and referees . I just dont see how the collision between the 2 Galway players is relevant.
conordee (Galway) - Posts: 440 - 09/05/2021 21:49:03 2340817 Link 1 |
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5 or 6 handpassess in a row is awful to watch. Steps rule not being enforced. Some very skillful players out there with some good flicking, hooking etc but hard to stop a player or play the ball if it is in players hands. bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 09/05/2021 23:27:36 2340826 Link 2 |
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Donal Og blaming the new rules on the "ills of football" - hurling snobbery at its finest. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11230 - 10/05/2021 09:07:43 2340854 Link 2 |
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Again this is down to interpretation of the wording. Advantage now is only awarded for a foul denying a goal-scoring opportunity or denying a playing moving into space. In the Dublin and Limerick incidents when players broke a tackled and scored they where made take a free. This is a wrong interpretation of the rule simple, it does not say that. The only time a foul has to be blown is when a player is crowded i.e. has no chance of an advantage. I don't understand the reinterpretation of this, if a player is in the other teams half and is fouled he is entitled even under these new rules to shoot and ref plays adavantage. This is still in the rules why the saw fit to interpret the rule incorrectly I don't know. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 10/05/2021 09:34:36 2340856 Link 0 |
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I think Joanne Cantwell is very fair towards Limerick. We all know Shefflin loves Tipp and has tipped them to beat Limerick everytime over the last few years . I still think hes a good pundit though besides that. He's got great insight. But Cantwell is very fair. bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 10/05/2021 09:38:54 2340858 Link 0 |
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Are you serious? Joanne is referring to the first half where Hegarty 'clips' Joe late with no free or yellow given. We know Joe got injured in second half by his own man. (J Cooney )"]Well l have been watching the Sunday Game since it started and I have never heard a similar question asked in relation to any of the teams that were at the top in Hurling or Football until now. Kilkenny were in top for most of the first decade and a half of this century and I certainly never heard their conduct coming under the same scrutiny. To ask in complete isolation if referees are going to clampdown on one particular team strikes me as very very unbalanced Sports Journalism indeed."]Kilkenny were constantly critized when they were on top. Before every big match it was brought out that they play on the edge. Loughnane lead the charge every week on the Sunday Game. Limerick are team to beat now their supports better get use to being critized and looked at harder then other teams. It won't stop until they come back to the pack.
gatha (Kilkenny) - Posts: 318 - 10/05/2021 11:27:23 2340890 Link 1 |
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Are you serious? Joanne is referring to the first half where Hegarty 'clips' Joe late with no free or yellow given. We know Joe got injured in second half by his own man. (J Cooney )"]Well l have been watching the Sunday Game since it started and I have never heard a similar question asked in relation to any of the teams that were at the top in Hurling or Football until now. Kilkenny were in top for most of the first decade and a half of this century and I certainly never heard their conduct coming under the same scrutiny. To ask in complete isolation if referees are going to clampdown on one particular team strikes me as very very unbalanced Sports Journalism indeed."]Kilkenny were constantly critized when they were on top. Before every big match it was brought out that they play on the edge. Loughnane lead the charge every week on the Sunday Game. Limerick are team to beat now their supports better get use to being critized and looked at harder then other teams. It won't stop until they come back to the pack."]Yes it was Gatha, but nobody ever suggested a 'clampdown' might be imposed on Kilkenny and in fact the attitude expounded more or less around the point, that is how things are, get used to it and if you want to match them you would better get used to it. Actually those latter sentiments are ones I would heartily endorse, and not resort to the idea that one team should be treated differently to other sides.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 10/05/2021 11:46:05 2340892 Link 0 |
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Are you serious? Joanne is referring to the first half where Hegarty 'clips' Joe late with no free or yellow given. We know Joe got injured in second half by his own man. (J Cooney )"]Well l have been watching the Sunday Game since it started and I have never heard a similar question asked in relation to any of the teams that were at the top in Hurling or Football until now. Kilkenny were in top for most of the first decade and a half of this century and I certainly never heard their conduct coming under the same scrutiny. To ask in complete isolation if referees are going to clampdown on one particular team strikes me as very very unbalanced Sports Journalism indeed."]Kilkenny were constantly critized when they were on top. Before every big match it was brought out that they play on the edge. Loughnane lead the charge every week on the Sunday Game. Limerick are team to beat now their supports better get use to being critized and looked at harder then other teams. It won't stop until they come back to the pack."]Yes it was Gatha, but nobody ever suggested a 'clampdown' might be imposed on Kilkenny and in fact the attitude expounded more or less around the point, that is how things are, get used to it and if you want to match them you would better get used to it. Actually those latter sentiments are ones I would heartily endorse, and not resort to the idea that one team should be treated differently to other sides."]I have no clue why she said that either other than to stir controversy. The crackdown that's needed for open hurling isn't team specific as they all do it and that's the holding with the free arm. However the only way you can crackdown on that is by not playing advantage. Look at yesterday's game, Waterford know if the gave a free away anywhere about 90m from goal it could be a point.
zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1804 - 10/05/2021 13:46:35 2340917 Link 0 |
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Something is not quiet right. With the strength of these players now they are hitting much harder but refs are panicking if the player goes down in a fair challenge. On the other hand jersey pulling is being ignored in the interest of letting the game flow. If the jersey pulling was called yesterday Stephen Bennett would have had as many points as Pat Horgan. Not saying Waterford were not doing it also but there was a disparity there. What kind of game do we want ? Games decide by like golf strokes, from free shots that can be scored effortless ? Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2658 - 10/05/2021 15:07:30 2340937 Link 1 |
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The advantage rule is terrible. But there's just as many badly policed rules. StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1732 - 10/05/2021 21:37:17 2341003 Link 1 |
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You pretty much summoned it up. Lyons flicked a ball off the stick yesterday. The next one he tried got him a red card. The rucks are horrible. The player catches or wins a great ball and there is no hope of him swinging a stick and most times not even a chance of hand passing because of no room. So we get throwing. When the ball comes out there has got to be someone standing on their own for an unchallenged shot. The percentage of points scored with an uncontested play is off the charts. I don't know what the answer is and hate to suggest more rules and frees. However I think there has to be a third man in free to stop the rucks. I totally understand if the ball arrives where several players are and everyone contesting. That is why third man "in" is the operative word. To cut down the frees if the original man gets the ball out to a team mate keep the play going. I know more work for the ref and controversy but every decision is that anyway. These rucks need to be dealt with and yes the faking to get frees is creeping in more and more. The incentive for to get a penalty when the player feel a slight touch is now going to be there. Again deal with it. Send him off for bringing the game in to disrepute. If a few are got wrong that is the price of disincentivism bad behaviour. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2658 - 10/05/2021 22:08:38 2341009 Link 0 |