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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "Ignorance seems to one of your strong points.
They are called the British and Irish Lions.
There is nothing "friendly" about Lions' tours.
He's one the best players ever to play the game.
The test matches versus South Africa are being played on three consecutive weeks. He's 35 years old and injury prone. That's why he didn't get picked."
That's your opinion. You talk to a NZ person and they call them the British lions, not a word about Ireland. That's all they are, they're friendly games. The equivalent in gaa would be Leitrim and Sligo and Fermanagh having a joint team and going to play games in Kerry on a tour. It's meaningless. Except there is good money in it for players. If he's 35 and injury prone why is Ireland always playing him?

republicofcloone (Leitrim) - Posts: 375 - 09/05/2021 11:41:58    2340678

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You conveniently ignore what was put in front of you. The National Women's League in soccer is completely amateur. The Irish women"s rugby team is almost completely amateur. A lot of the teams in the LOI First Division are completely amateur. They all trained and played from January. You've been found out KillingField. Your argument doesn't stand up to scrutiny. You are now going round n circles repeating the same argument. You might have convinced your good self that you are right but you're not convincing anyone else.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 5346 - 09/05/2021 11:04:30
You say a lot are completely amateur? Proof.... Many players are paid/only work during off season of the soccer season so are not amateur players.
Ive been found out. Cop on to yourslef.
The womens rugby team has many players who work roles that allow them be pro athletes. Like they are development officers in schools etc and thats a 20 hour working week and other than that are pro athletes.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3511 - 09/05/2021 14:12:34    2340701

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Replying To KillingFields:  "You conveniently ignore what was put in front of you. The National Women's League in soccer is completely amateur. The Irish women"s rugby team is almost completely amateur. A lot of the teams in the LOI First Division are completely amateur. They all trained and played from January. You've been found out KillingField. Your argument doesn't stand up to scrutiny. You are now going round n circles repeating the same argument. You might have convinced your good self that you are right but you're not convincing anyone else.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 5346 - 09/05/2021 11:04:30
You say a lot are completely amateur? Proof.... Many players are paid/only work during off season of the soccer season so are not amateur players.
Ive been found out. Cop on to yourslef.
The womens rugby team has many players who work roles that allow them be pro athletes. Like they are development officers in schools etc and thats a 20 hour working week and other than that are pro athletes."
You're not a pro athlete if you have a day job.
That should be fair obvious.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 09/05/2021 14:16:12    2340703

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Replying To KillingFields:  "You conveniently ignore what was put in front of you. The National Women's League in soccer is completely amateur. The Irish women"s rugby team is almost completely amateur. A lot of the teams in the LOI First Division are completely amateur. They all trained and played from January. You've been found out KillingField. Your argument doesn't stand up to scrutiny. You are now going round n circles repeating the same argument. You might have convinced your good self that you are right but you're not convincing anyone else.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 5346 - 09/05/2021 11:04:30
You say a lot are completely amateur? Proof.... Many players are paid/only work during off season of the soccer season so are not amateur players.
Ive been found out. Cop on to yourslef.
The womens rugby team has many players who work roles that allow them be pro athletes. Like they are development officers in schools etc and thats a 20 hour working week and other than that are pro athletes."
So they are working normal jobs but they are pro athletes. Such baloney. At best they are semi pro, but being humiliated by France the way they were that's questionable too.

republicofcloone (Leitrim) - Posts: 375 - 09/05/2021 14:25:11    2340706

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Replying To catch22:  "
Replying To KillingFields:  "You conveniently ignore what was put in front of you. The National Women's League in soccer is completely amateur. The Irish women"s rugby team is almost completely amateur. A lot of the teams in the LOI First Division are completely amateur. They all trained and played from January. You've been found out KillingField. Your argument doesn't stand up to scrutiny. You are now going round n circles repeating the same argument. You might have convinced your good self that you are right but you're not convincing anyone else.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 5346 - 09/05/2021 11:04:30
You say a lot are completely amateur? Proof.... Many players are paid/only work during off season of the soccer season so are not amateur players.
Ive been found out. Cop on to yourslef.
The womens rugby team has many players who work roles that allow them be pro athletes. Like they are development officers in schools etc and thats a 20 hour working week and other than that are pro athletes."
You're not a pro athlete if you have a day job.
That should be fair obvious."
Yes you are. You are still a professional athlete even with another job.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3511 - 09/05/2021 14:40:26    2340712

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Replying To KillingFields:  "
Replying To catch22:  "[quote=KillingFields:  "You conveniently ignore what was put in front of you. The National Women's League in soccer is completely amateur. The Irish women"s rugby team is almost completely amateur. A lot of the teams in the LOI First Division are completely amateur. They all trained and played from January. You've been found out KillingField. Your argument doesn't stand up to scrutiny. You are now going round n circles repeating the same argument. You might have convinced your good self that you are right but you're not convincing anyone else.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 5346 - 09/05/2021 11:04:30
You say a lot are completely amateur? Proof.... Many players are paid/only work during off season of the soccer season so are not amateur players.
Ive been found out. Cop on to yourslef.
The womens rugby team has many players who work roles that allow them be pro athletes. Like they are development officers in schools etc and thats a 20 hour working week and other than that are pro athletes."
You're not a pro athlete if you have a day job.
That should be fair obvious."
Yes you are. You are still a professional athlete even with another job."]So by your example someone who works full time as a farmer we'll say and also volunteers for the order of Malta is a full time paramedic?

republicofcloone (Leitrim) - Posts: 375 - 09/05/2021 15:11:13    2340718

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Its the same reason amateur sports came back much later in other countries compared to professional sports
because the financial realties are completely different and players in a pro squad are not going into schools, dozens of workplaces and then going training"
All your posts boil down to you being a rugby man on a GAA site. GAA's your second sport whereas GAA is the NO 1 sport in Ireland. We had to wait our turn unlike other more privileged sports.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2016 - 09/05/2021 15:51:12    2340735

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Replying To KillingFields:  "
Replying To catch22:  "[quote=KillingFields:  "You conveniently ignore what was put in front of you. The National Women's League in soccer is completely amateur. The Irish women"s rugby team is almost completely amateur. A lot of the teams in the LOI First Division are completely amateur. They all trained and played from January. You've been found out KillingField. Your argument doesn't stand up to scrutiny. You are now going round n circles repeating the same argument. You might have convinced your good self that you are right but you're not convincing anyone else.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 5346 - 09/05/2021 11:04:30
You say a lot are completely amateur? Proof.... Many players are paid/only work during off season of the soccer season so are not amateur players.
Ive been found out. Cop on to yourslef.
The womens rugby team has many players who work roles that allow them be pro athletes. Like they are development officers in schools etc and thats a 20 hour working week and other than that are pro athletes."
You're not a pro athlete if you have a day job.
That should be fair obvious."
Yes you are. You are still a professional athlete even with another job."]No, they are semi professional.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 09/05/2021 16:13:43    2340742

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Replying To republicofcloone:  "
Replying To KillingFields:  "[quote=catch22:  "[quote=KillingFields:  "You conveniently ignore what was put in front of you. The National Women's League in soccer is completely amateur. The Irish women"s rugby team is almost completely amateur. A lot of the teams in the LOI First Division are completely amateur. They all trained and played from January. You've been found out KillingField. Your argument doesn't stand up to scrutiny. You are now going round n circles repeating the same argument. You might have convinced your good self that you are right but you're not convincing anyone else.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 5346 - 09/05/2021 11:04:30
You say a lot are completely amateur? Proof.... Many players are paid/only work during off season of the soccer season so are not amateur players.
Ive been found out. Cop on to yourslef.
The womens rugby team has many players who work roles that allow them be pro athletes. Like they are development officers in schools etc and thats a 20 hour working week and other than that are pro athletes."
You're not a pro athlete if you have a day job.
That should be fair obvious."
Yes you are. You are still a professional athlete even with another job."]So by your example someone who works full time as a farmer we'll say and also volunteers for the order of Malta is a full time paramedic?"]People are using professionalism in sport on this forum as some sort of barrier against Covid. Their argument is that they can isolate themselves from the general public because they are working and training in their own bubble and unlike amateur sports people they don't have to go into a work environment on a Monday morning and mix outside their sporting bubbles. Your point has nothing to do with elite sport going ahead and the reasons for it. As regards the general discussion on here jockeys, the 4 provincial rugby teams, the Irish men's rugby team and a handful of individual sports people are the only professional sports people in the country. League of Ireland soccer(male and female) and womens rugby team are either fully amateur or a mixture of part time and amateur and as such work ordinary jobs in the community like GAA players-if poster's can't see this and admit it they are either anti GAA or just blind.

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 817 - 09/05/2021 16:13:47    2340743

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Replying To KillingFields:  "You conveniently ignore what was put in front of you. The National Women's League in soccer is completely amateur. The Irish women"s rugby team is almost completely amateur. A lot of the teams in the LOI First Division are completely amateur. They all trained and played from January. You've been found out KillingField. Your argument doesn't stand up to scrutiny. You are now going round n circles repeating the same argument. You might have convinced your good self that you are right but you're not convincing anyone else.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 5346 - 09/05/2021 11:04:30
You say a lot are completely amateur? Proof.... Many players are paid/only work during off season of the soccer season so are not amateur players.
Ive been found out. Cop on to yourslef.
The womens rugby team has many players who work roles that allow them be pro athletes. Like they are development officers in schools etc and thats a 20 hour working week and other than that are pro athletes."
In Division One of the LOI Cork City, UCD and Wexford Youths are completely amateur. Athlone Town fielded a team of teenagers in last season's FAI Cup semi final. They're not old enough to be working jobs in the off season. I would also ask questions of Cabinteely, Cohn Ramblers and Treaty Utd. I very much doubt that they are in a position to offer full time, 36 week contracts to their panels of players. The Women's National League in soccer is amateur. I know women who are playing with two of the top teams. One of them doesn't even get expenses. I have asked on several occasions for you to supply the relevant information that would substantiate your claims in relation to day jobs held down by the players on the Irish women's rugby team. You have failed to supply that information. You have had long enough to do so. As far as I'm concerned you are bluffing or worse still, lying. The Irish women's rugby team have been described consistently in the national newspapers as being amateur.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 09/05/2021 16:31:34    2340750

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o by your example someone who works full time as a farmer we'll say and also volunteers for the order of Malta is a full time paramedic?
republicofcloone (Leitrim) - Posts: 325 - 09/05/2021 15:11:13
not near the same. if you are training 20 hours a week and paid to do so then you are a professional athlete. didnt think that that would need to be explained to people.

bringing up order of malta and paramedics shows you havent a clue. do you know what order of malta can do compared to a paramedic?
no as if you did you wouldnt have brought them into this discussion.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3511 - 09/05/2021 16:33:54    2340751

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Replying To Saynothing:  "All your posts boil down to you being a rugby man on a GAA site. GAA's your second sport whereas GAA is the NO 1 sport in Ireland. We had to wait our turn unlike other more privileged sports."
No they dont.
People can follow more than one sport at a time. if this is what you have to resort to then you have lost the discussion.
SAD!

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3511 - 09/05/2021 16:34:40    2340752

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Replying To Saynothing:  "All your posts boil down to you being a rugby man on a GAA site. GAA's your second sport whereas GAA is the NO 1 sport in Ireland. We had to wait our turn unlike other more privileged sports."
When you say "GAA Sport" which I always find weird, how many different sports are you including ?

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 09/05/2021 16:53:56    2340761

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Replying To Saynothing:  "All your posts boil down to you being a rugby man on a GAA site. GAA's your second sport whereas GAA is the NO 1 sport in Ireland. We had to wait our turn unlike other more privileged sports."
GAA isn't Killing Fields 2nd sport at all. The posts he is putting up here under the AfricanGael username show what he thinks of GAA, I don't know why he is given so much attention.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 09/05/2021 17:24:13    2340768

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Replying To Soma:  "GAA isn't Killing Fields 2nd sport at all. The posts he is putting up here under the AfricanGael username show what he thinks of GAA, I don't know why he is given so much attention."
You are totally wrong with that.
Im not african gael no matter how much you want to think i am.
xoxo

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3511 - 09/05/2021 21:44:38    2340815

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Replying To KillingFields:  "o by your example someone who works full time as a farmer we'll say and also volunteers for the order of Malta is a full time paramedic?
republicofcloone (Leitrim) - Posts: 325 - 09/05/2021 15:11:13
not near the same. if you are training 20 hours a week and paid to do so then you are a professional athlete. didnt think that that would need to be explained to people.

bringing up order of malta and paramedics shows you havent a clue. do you know what order of malta can do compared to a paramedic?
no as if you did you wouldnt have brought them into this discussion."
GAA players train nearly the same amount of time and they get expenses..are they professional so? No because they have full time jobs also which is the same as the women rugby yes.

republicofcloone (Leitrim) - Posts: 375 - 09/05/2021 21:56:08    2340819

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Replying To KillingFields:  "You are totally wrong with that.
Im not african gael no matter how much you want to think i am.
xoxo"
Oh I think you are now- you will not cod us with your duplicity.

I had a neighbour once who said the first beastings from the hind quarter is the best so that development can occur imminently in the rumen.

Maybe you should reflect on that.

the creeler (Cavan) - Posts: 512 - 10/05/2021 09:38:03    2340857

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Replying To tonguey:  "Oh I think you are now- you will not cod us with your duplicity.

I had a neighbour once who said the first beastings from the hind quarter is the best so that development can occur imminently in the rumen.

Maybe you should reflect on that."
Ok, and this neighbour, was he allowed to move about freely within the community?

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 10/05/2021 09:47:59    2340860

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Replying To catch22:  "Ok, and this neighbour, was he allowed to move about freely within the community?"
Oh he was indeed. He had a car and it went meep meep

the creeler (Cavan) - Posts: 512 - 10/05/2021 09:50:57    2340861

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Replying To tonguey:  "Oh he was indeed. He had a car and it went meep meep"
That's brilliant :-)

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 10/05/2021 10:25:38    2340871

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