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Dublin Cute Hoorism

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Happy friday everyone, hope you're all set for a good weekend.

Seen the podcast from Ciaran Whelan on the main page. Is this Ciaran engaging in a bit of cute hoorism on the Dub's part. Whilst i'd agree with his point Dublin will eventually lose a game is this the ground being laid for "well we told you we were going to lose..". The part about no one coming through that he's heard off from U-15 up is a bit of an oxymoron in that Dubs tend to focus on the basic skills of the game and are right there at U-20/21 level as these lads become seniors. Talk of no Fenton or Con coming through etc, does he forget Con is what 23/24 and yet to hit his prime, Kilkenny, Fenton, Howard, Scully, Byrne, Small * 2, Mannion, Costello and Rock are all in their prime with the likes of Aaron Byrne, Bugler, Ciaran Archer, Colm Basquel still relatively young.

This isn't meant to be a dig at anyone, i think its just quite funny for Ciaran to be saying it... Its akin to saying well Christmas is coming, yes obviously it is but its cute hoorism to be say its coming in june, when its a while away yet.

Anyways lads and ladies enjoy the weekend and a few beers, shandies, wine or spritzers... what ever your drink of choice may be.

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1395 - 23/04/2021 12:50:55    2338514

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I agree with Ciaran, we'll be beaten in the 1st round.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8277 - 23/04/2021 13:43:55    2338519

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Replying To realdub:  "I agree with Ciaran, we'll be beaten in the 1st round."
Dublin got a bye into 2nd round (quarter final) so No Dublin won't be beaten in 1st round. However they play winners of Wexford and Wicklow then so Dubs will go out in a nd round lol

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 2771 - 23/04/2021 14:06:06    2338524

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If Kerry had the population of Dublin, no other team would ever win the All-Ireland, so the pressure is all on Dublin to keep winning and prove to everyone that they never actually bought success, needed any particular ref, had to engage in cynical play or have to use Croke Park as their home to achieve their goals. That in itself is a motivator.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1946 - 23/04/2021 14:12:28    2338527

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We had fun while it lasted to be fair to us.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4169 - 23/04/2021 14:14:45    2338528

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Replying To brian:  "Happy friday everyone, hope you're all set for a good weekend.

Seen the podcast from Ciaran Whelan on the main page. Is this Ciaran engaging in a bit of cute hoorism on the Dub's part. Whilst i'd agree with his point Dublin will eventually lose a game is this the ground being laid for "well we told you we were going to lose..". The part about no one coming through that he's heard off from U-15 up is a bit of an oxymoron in that Dubs tend to focus on the basic skills of the game and are right there at U-20/21 level as these lads become seniors. Talk of no Fenton or Con coming through etc, does he forget Con is what 23/24 and yet to hit his prime, Kilkenny, Fenton, Howard, Scully, Byrne, Small * 2, Mannion, Costello and Rock are all in their prime with the likes of Aaron Byrne, Bugler, Ciaran Archer, Colm Basquel still relatively young.

This isn't meant to be a dig at anyone, i think its just quite funny for Ciaran to be saying it... Its akin to saying well Christmas is coming, yes obviously it is but its cute hoorism to be say its coming in june, when its a while away yet.

Anyways lads and ladies enjoy the weekend and a few beers, shandies, wine or spritzers... what ever your drink of choice may be."
Lee Gannon (though he wont get the headlines) im really excited about, i think he looks like he has the potential to be the real deal as a Dublin Senior footballer and would be my tip as a standout of those coming through.

Another who wont get the headlines is Mark Lavin, a lovely footballer of quality and skill, he has a real shot in my opinion.

O Dell, Swan and Archer - people will know about.

We will be alright.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4169 - 23/04/2021 14:20:12    2338529

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You don't have to be much of an analyst to say that Dublin will lose eventually. Any team in the history of sport that have been on a long unbeaten run, were eventually beaten. But it is difficult to see who will beat Dublin. It doesn't appear that there is a team in Leinster that will beat them as most teams don't have the talent to match them and the other teams don't believe psychologically that they can compete with them and are beaten before they go out to play. Not to get personal about it, but for Ciaran Whelan to make such a comment and not back it up with any factual evidence or a hint of why he came to that conclusion is typically of what we hear all the time from pundits on RTE and it is one of the reasons why I have given up listening to the analysis on RTE. There are probably 2-3 teams that on a given day believe and have the talent to beat Dublin, they are Kerry, Mayo (do they have the belief, I think they do) and maybe Donegal (do they have the players, not sure). I don't think the other teams outside Leinster like Tyrone, Galway, Roscommon, Monaghan have either the talent or the belief to beat Dublin. Unless someone springs from the pack (highly unlikely), I don't see the rest having a chance of beating Dublin currently.

wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1433 - 23/04/2021 14:25:35    2338530

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "If Kerry had the population of Dublin, no other team would ever win the All-Ireland, so the pressure is all on Dublin to keep winning and prove to everyone that they never actually bought success, needed any particular ref, had to engage in cynical play or have to use Croke Park as their home to achieve their goals. That in itself is a motivator."
Kerry didn't buy success, they were in a mainly hurling province, which helped their provincial championship, compared to the other provinces. They had some very good players over the years. Dublin did not buy success, they developed their underage structures, producing excellent players, and are now the dominant team in Leinster, not ideal for the provincial championship, and possibly Ireland. Other counties are striving to reach Dublin's level, and overcome them.

MicktheMiller (Offaly) - Posts: 401 - 23/04/2021 14:29:10    2338532

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Replying To MicktheMiller:  "
Replying To AfricanGael:  "If Kerry had the population of Dublin, no other team would ever win the All-Ireland, so the pressure is all on Dublin to keep winning and prove to everyone that they never actually bought success, needed any particular ref, had to engage in cynical play or have to use Croke Park as their home to achieve their goals. That in itself is a motivator."
Kerry didn't buy success, they were in a mainly hurling province, which helped their provincial championship, compared to the other provinces. They had some very good players over the years. Dublin did not buy success, they developed their underage structures, producing excellent players, and are now the dominant team in Leinster, not ideal for the provincial championship, and possibly Ireland. Other counties are striving to reach Dublin's level, and overcome them."
So do you believe that in a so called amateur sport population makes any difference at all ? You're saying Kerry didn't buy success because "They had some very good players over the years" but Dublin "produced" players. I wonder what other counties would need to help them "produce" players , or help them in their "strive" as you put it. Wouldn't be a thing called money by any chance, would it ?

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1946 - 23/04/2021 15:18:20    2338542

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Dublin got a bye into 2nd round (quarter final) so No Dublin won't be beaten in 1st round. However they play winners of Wexford and Wicklow then so Dubs will go out in a nd round lol"
I meant to say in our first match :D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8277 - 23/04/2021 15:50:03    2338547

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Replying To MicktheMiller:  "
Replying To AfricanGael:  "If Kerry had the population of Dublin, no other team would ever win the All-Ireland, so the pressure is all on Dublin to keep winning and prove to everyone that they never actually bought success, needed any particular ref, had to engage in cynical play or have to use Croke Park as their home to achieve their goals. That in itself is a motivator."
Kerry didn't buy success, they were in a mainly hurling province, which helped their provincial championship, compared to the other provinces. They had some very good players over the years. Dublin did not buy success, they developed their underage structures, producing excellent players, and are now the dominant team in Leinster, not ideal for the provincial championship, and possibly Ireland. Other counties are striving to reach Dublin's level, and overcome them."
Well put Mick. As for Whelan, he's probably been watching too many old video clips of the great Micko plamausing all and sundry, back in the day!

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 740 - 23/04/2021 16:07:20    2338550

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As an rte pundit he has to pawn some hope there may be a chance of a competition this year to sell the product. But there won't be. There'll be huffing and puffing and Dublin will win it

republicofcloone (Leitrim) - Posts: 375 - 23/04/2021 16:29:07    2338552

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Who knows. I think Ciarán Whelan is a decent bloke and possibly putting a spin on championship proceedings but I'll take him at his word. If he said he's confident of 7 in a row we'd have a thread telling us Arrogant ex Dublin player and RTE pundit says Dublin are certs for Super Seven! Anyways, great to see and hear a new GAA podcast and looks like there's plenty to listen to there until the fields are filled with kids and adults picking and kicking ball. Jood luck to Jmac. Like and Subscribe as they say.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 6284 - 23/04/2021 17:35:11    2338553

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Replying To republicofcloone:  "As an rte pundit he has to pawn some hope there may be a chance of a competition this year to sell the product. But there won't be. There'll be huffing and puffing and Dublin will win it"
As Gary Lineker once said about the World Cup "Football is a simple game. Twenty-two men chase a ball for 90 minutes and at the end, the Germans always win."

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 1500 - 23/04/2021 17:59:45    2338555

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Replying To realdub:  "I agree with Ciaran, we'll be beaten in the 1st round."
Thanks. I needed a good old laugh my old pal.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17792 - 23/04/2021 18:36:02    2338559

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Replying To realdub:  "I meant to say in our first match :D"
Ah I know. Just messing. I should have said Dublin def won't win first round game this year lol

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 2771 - 23/04/2021 18:37:21    2338560

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Replying To brian:  "Happy friday everyone, hope you're all set for a good weekend.

Seen the podcast from Ciaran Whelan on the main page. Is this Ciaran engaging in a bit of cute hoorism on the Dub's part. Whilst i'd agree with his point Dublin will eventually lose a game is this the ground being laid for "well we told you we were going to lose..". The part about no one coming through that he's heard off from U-15 up is a bit of an oxymoron in that Dubs tend to focus on the basic skills of the game and are right there at U-20/21 level as these lads become seniors. Talk of no Fenton or Con coming through etc, does he forget Con is what 23/24 and yet to hit his prime, Kilkenny, Fenton, Howard, Scully, Byrne, Small * 2, Mannion, Costello and Rock are all in their prime with the likes of Aaron Byrne, Bugler, Ciaran Archer, Colm Basquel still relatively young.

This isn't meant to be a dig at anyone, i think its just quite funny for Ciaran to be saying it... Its akin to saying well Christmas is coming, yes obviously it is but its cute hoorism to be say its coming in june, when its a while away yet.

Anyways lads and ladies enjoy the weekend and a few beers, shandies, wine or spritzers... what ever your drink of choice may be."
Of the league possibly.

MicktheMiller (Offaly) - Posts: 401 - 23/04/2021 21:38:45    2338567

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Thanks. I needed a good old laugh my old pal."
Another disappointing championship ahead pal, I can't take it seriously the way things are.
You wouldn't know what could happen.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8277 - 23/04/2021 22:06:02    2338570

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Replying To realdub:  "Another disappointing championship ahead pal, I can't take it seriously the way things are.
You wouldn't know what could happen."
I just hope the lads can win 8 in a row so I can spell DU8LIN but for now Du6lin will have to do..

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20341 - 24/04/2021 18:54:19    2338648

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As long as teams continue to setup with a defensive mindset against them Dublin will continue to win. Dubs total football tactic is streets ahead against such. Tried, tested perfected and repeat. It's beautiful.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20341 - 24/04/2021 19:01:38    2338649

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