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Replying To Saynothing:  "Why so few Indian and Pakistan players on these so called equal opportunities English teams? Rather go for the English hooligan stereotype."
Players from India and Pakistan are not eligible to play for England.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2481 - 27/03/2021 10:44:44    2335178

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Replying To Viking66:  "No we finished just above the relegation zone in division 3 the season before I started going to the matches in the early 80s. We only stayed up the last week of the season. We were a 4th division side who only stayed in the 3rd division because of the cold blow lane effect. We won 14 games that season 12 of them at home! And George Graham. Happy days eating pies! Are you living around New Cross?"
No, I live near Archway, North London. I'm a life long Spurs supporter. My one and only visit to the Old Den was in the late 1960's.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2481 - 27/03/2021 10:47:40    2335179

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "I don't know what it's like to watch someone being shot, but i'll take your word for it. Yes, that's what makes it such a great game and the most popular in the world, followed and loved by billions."
It may be very popular around the world even though I must admit I have not been around most of the world so I cannot clarify your statement-maybe you have been!. It must be very big in China!-perhaps you could tell us all how many of their 1.5 billion play it there. The main reason it is popular is based on its simplicity- a two year old with no football skill can play it. You do not even have to be able to run to play it-they have a rule to slow the game down and it is called 'off-side'. A bit like 'Lanagans ball'- I stepped out again! I stepped in again- a rule in your 'beautiful game' is controlled by the linesman who runs faster and more often than most of the players.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 27/03/2021 11:51:29    2335183

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "Players from India and Pakistan are not eligible to play for England."
John Barnes not English. Zola Bud ran for yous, she wasn't English

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2017 - 27/03/2021 15:12:41    2335191

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Replying To browncows:  "It may be very popular around the world even though I must admit I have not been around most of the world so I cannot clarify your statement-maybe you have been!. It must be very big in China!-perhaps you could tell us all how many of their 1.5 billion play it there. The main reason it is popular is based on its simplicity- a two year old with no football skill can play it. You do not even have to be able to run to play it-they have a rule to slow the game down and it is called 'off-side'. A bit like 'Lanagans ball'- I stepped out again! I stepped in again- a rule in your 'beautiful game' is controlled by the linesman who runs faster and more often than most of the players."
I've seen Jack Russel pups play it

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2017 - 27/03/2021 17:15:26    2335198

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Replying To Saynothing:  "John Barnes not English. Zola Bud ran for yous, she wasn't English"
They were both British citizens, passport holders. And who is this "yous"?

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2481 - 27/03/2021 17:59:39    2335204

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "Players from India and Pakistan are not eligible to play for England."
Before I was born but was it Keith Weller or Derek Possee we signed from you that time? Both were still being talked about when I started going.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12074 - 27/03/2021 20:33:24    2335215

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "Players from India and Pakistan are not eligible to play for England."
Think he means ethnic Indian subcontinent Englishmen or whatever the PC term for them is. Think it has more to do with cricket being more popular among that section of English society. But I'm not sure.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12074 - 27/03/2021 20:36:35    2335216

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "They were both British citizens, passport holders. And who is this "yous"?"
John Barbes was a naturalised Brit. They gave Zola a rushed passport so she could win them an Olympic medal. ....

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12074 - 27/03/2021 20:38:06    2335217

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "You haven't answered my question."
People haven't been banned because of race or religion but as I listed in my comment there are countless incidents of rascist abuse and anti-foreigner comments in stadiums and recently on line and the English FA and Premier League has stood by and done nothing. By their actions or lack of action in this case their are complicit.

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 817 - 27/03/2021 21:22:33    2335222

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "They were both British citizens, passport holders. And who is this "yous"?"
Cockney followed by uk so yous .

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2017 - 27/03/2021 21:34:52    2335223

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Cockney followed by uk so yous ."
You said "Zola Bud ran for yous". The UK after my username denotes where I live, not my nationality. Were you born in Tyrone, UK? If so, she was running for you.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2481 - 28/03/2021 11:01:19    2335236

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Replying To Galway9801:  "I have no doubt in my mind that there are any number of players in England who have historically been forced out of the game,or not been given a proper chance because of their ethnicity, or have left the game of their own free will as they didn't want to put up with abuse any longer.
Read Andy Woodwards book, Position of trust, and tel me that English football, or soccer in general is in a position to lecture the gaa.
It seems like you're trying to get me to argue that the gaa is perfect, which obviously (although apparently not to you and Africangael) I'm not."
Hold on a minute. My original reply to you was about an anti soccer rant by you. I'm one of the many people who actually like soccer and GAA.

For the record:
63% of Premier League players are foreign.
25% of Premier League players are black
25% of Premier League team captains players are black.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2481 - 28/03/2021 11:24:12    2335237

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Replying To Viking66:  "Before I was born but was it Keith Weller or Derek Possee we signed from you that time? Both were still being talked about when I started going."
Yes, both Weller and Possee started as apprentices at Spurs, but only played a handful of first team games before signing for Millwall at the same time in 1967.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2481 - 28/03/2021 11:29:38    2335239

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "Hold on a minute. My original reply to you was about an anti soccer rant by you. I'm one of the many people who actually like soccer and GAA.

For the record:
63% of Premier League players are foreign.
25% of Premier League players are black
25% of Premier League team captains players are black."
You asked me whether or not anyone had ever been banned from playing soccer because of their faith or ethnicity, referring to the ban on protestants playing gaelic games,and insinuating that it is morally superior to gaelic games.
I said historically many people have been pushed out of soccer , and if the gaa was a global sport like soccer is, with international transfer markets, , it would also be far more racially mixed,, and I'll bet that most of those black players you're referring to have been racially abused by soccer fans, and I'll bet that there are many countries all over the world, particularly in areas rife with conflict,as our nation was when this rule was passed, where lingering resentments have meant that people of certain faiths and ethnicities are banned from joining their local teams.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1726 - 28/03/2021 12:17:03    2335241

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Replying To Galway9801:  "You asked me whether or not anyone had ever been banned from playing soccer because of their faith or ethnicity, referring to the ban on protestants playing gaelic games,and insinuating that it is morally superior to gaelic games.
I said historically many people have been pushed out of soccer , and if the gaa was a global sport like soccer is, with international transfer markets, , it would also be far more racially mixed,, and I'll bet that most of those black players you're referring to have been racially abused by soccer fans, and I'll bet that there are many countries all over the world, particularly in areas rife with conflict,as our nation was when this rule was passed, where lingering resentments have meant that people of certain faiths and ethnicities are banned from joining their local teams."
When was anyone banned from playing GAA because of Religion.
In reply to Cockney Cat what % of Premier League owners are black, how about Premier League managers are and how many refs are black In the league.

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 817 - 28/03/2021 12:58:27    2335245

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Replying To updwell:  "When was anyone banned from playing GAA because of Religion.
In reply to Cockney Cat what % of Premier League owners are black, how about Premier League managers are and how many refs are black In the league."
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/protestant-gaa-star-hounded-out-by-vile-taunts-26308621.html

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2481 - 28/03/2021 13:31:08    2335249

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Replying To updwell:  "When was anyone banned from playing GAA because of Religion.
In reply to Cockney Cat what % of Premier League owners are black, how about Premier League managers are and how many refs are black In the league."
Wasn't there a ban on protestants playing gaelic games?

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1726 - 28/03/2021 13:41:19    2335251

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Replying To updwell:  "When was anyone banned from playing GAA because of Religion.
In reply to Cockney Cat what % of Premier League owners are black, how about Premier League managers are and how many refs are black In the league."
I know that priests were not allowed play at one stage and played under assumed names.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 28/03/2021 15:08:59    2335260

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Replying To Galway9801:  "Wasn't there a ban on protestants playing gaelic games?"
When. Protestants have played hurling in Cork, Limerick and Wexford, at least, for generations. Ollie Honeyman and George Doughdale who won Connacht medals with Leitrim and Jack Boothman, a former President of Ireland, were all Protestants. Of course Parnell was a Patron of the GAA from day one. I never heard of any rule saying Protestants could not be in the GAA.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4342 - 28/03/2021 15:20:57    2335261

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