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Players Who Never Got All Starts Despite Having Great Seasons In Any Given Year

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just to start some new topic in the absence of on the field action, I was looking back at Offalys journey in 1985 and not being biased but how Jim Troy didnt get an All Star that year has always been a topic of conversation around Offaly and his club Lusmagh, without "googling" I think Ger Cunningham of Cork got the nod ahead of Jim that year, no shame in finishing second to the Great Ger I know...Brian Whelehans ommission in 1994 was another which raised eyebrows, I will qualify that though and say that Limerick had Dave Clark on top form that year too, and Kevin Martin was outstanding as was Hubert Rigney, so I suppose Ger Hegarty will have felt aggrived from a Limerick point of view as he was outstanding that year for Limerick at CB...feel free to move around the years with your views and oppinions..

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 08/02/2021 19:41:05    2330732

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I am amazed...actually:)

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 11/02/2021 12:12:10    2331030

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John Galvin in 2010 roasted Anthony Maher in the Munster final and roasted Aidan Walsh in the qualifiers in the Gaelic Rounds but Walsh got the all star.

James Mcgarry the Kilkenny Goalkeeper is another in the early 00's definitely should have got at least 1 all star.

DUALSUPPORT (Limerick) - Posts: 1038 - 11/02/2021 12:51:58    2331035

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From a Laois point of view:

Enda Rowland (Hurling) was the best goalie in Ireland in 2019 and should have got the all star ahead of Brian Hogan. He has it all , great shot stopper , scores points and has a great puck out. If he played for our neighbours in tipp or KK he'd win a good few all stars.

Ross Munnelly (Football) should have got an all star in either 2003, 2005 or 2006! Especially in 2006 scored two goals against meath in navan. Was laois's best forward that year in a year laois were unlucky to lose to Mayo in a replay All-ireland 1/4.

Graham Brody (Football) 2018 could/should have got an all star. Made some unbelievable saves that year especially against Monaghan and Dublin in Leinster Final. Unfortunately that year the all star was given to a goalie based on kick outs as opposed to the primary function of a keeper which is to stop the ball going into the net.

Niall Rigney (hurling) scored 1-14 against KK in championship in 1999 (Brian Cody's first game for KK ). No back door back then so was always going to lose out. Still was a brilliant hurler.

Ben (None) - Posts: 101 - 11/02/2021 12:55:00    2331036

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Replying To Ben:  "From a Laois point of view:

Enda Rowland (Hurling) was the best goalie in Ireland in 2019 and should have got the all star ahead of Brian Hogan. He has it all , great shot stopper , scores points and has a great puck out. If he played for our neighbours in tipp or KK he'd win a good few all stars.

Ross Munnelly (Football) should have got an all star in either 2003, 2005 or 2006! Especially in 2006 scored two goals against meath in navan. Was laois's best forward that year in a year laois were unlucky to lose to Mayo in a replay All-ireland 1/4.

Graham Brody (Football) 2018 could/should have got an all star. Made some unbelievable saves that year especially against Monaghan and Dublin in Leinster Final. Unfortunately that year the all star was given to a goalie based on kick outs as opposed to the primary function of a keeper which is to stop the ball going into the net.

Niall Rigney (hurling) scored 1-14 against KK in championship in 1999 (Brian Cody's first game for KK ). No back door back then so was always going to lose out. Still was a brilliant hurler."
All great players. Could it be the fact they played for Laois, who don't reach the finals of the hurling and football championships?

MicktheMiller (Offaly) - Posts: 421 - 11/02/2021 14:11:47    2331048

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I find it very hard to fathom how Kevin Mcloughlin has never received an All-Star for Mayo. Consistency personified.

Tizcold (Galway) - Posts: 239 - 11/02/2021 14:46:36    2331051

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Replying To DUALSUPPORT:  "John Galvin in 2010 roasted Anthony Maher in the Munster final and roasted Aidan Walsh in the qualifiers in the Gaelic Rounds but Walsh got the all star.

James Mcgarry the Kilkenny Goalkeeper is another in the early 00's definitely should have got at least 1 all star."
John Galvin got the midfield place on the players team that year but not on the Journalists etc team. He was the only player, who was not on the All Stars team, thus nominated. Stephen Lucey absolutely destroyed Kevin Donaghy that day, as he did to so many other good footballers, but nothing doing either. I have lost respect for how these awards are given and do not agree with the idea that an All Ireland team has to automatically have six or seven All Stars, while great players from weaker counties are not even considered.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4338 - 11/02/2021 15:04:40    2331055

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I know its a beaten record but Graham Reilly in 2010.

Was the top scorer from play for the whole championship. Won multiple man of the match awards during said championship.

Lost out due to events that happened v Louth and Meath being lambs to the slaughter as the GAA abdicated any responsibility for what happened during and after the game.

Paddy Kennan was deserving of an award and received it accordingly. Graham I believe was player of the Leinster championship yet didn't receive one.

That he was also overlooked for young player of the championship which he could've been awarded as he was age appropriate added insult to injury.

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 11/02/2021 15:10:27    2331058

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Graham Reilly 2010, donal keoghan 2019.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 11/02/2021 15:56:06    2331070

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Replying To brian:  "I know its a beaten record but Graham Reilly in 2010.

Was the top scorer from play for the whole championship. Won multiple man of the match awards during said championship.

Lost out due to events that happened v Louth and Meath being lambs to the slaughter as the GAA abdicated any responsibility for what happened during and after the game.

Paddy Kennan was deserving of an award and received it accordingly. Graham I believe was player of the Leinster championship yet didn't receive one.

That he was also overlooked for young player of the championship which he could've been awarded as he was age appropriate added insult to injury."
Perhaps the greatest travesty to have ever happened in the all star era. And that is saying something.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 11/02/2021 15:58:02    2331072

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Replying To MicktheMiller:  "All great players. Could it be the fact they played for Laois, who don't reach the finals of the hurling and football championships?"
I take it that is not meant as a smart answer as Laois not getting to finals:)..I actually remember that game Niall RIgney played in against Laois, and from memory Kilkenny stole it in the last few minutes. Just to clarify there was a back door of some description I think (was it it beaten provincial finalists maybe I think) but just one additional game in those days...to agrree with MicktheMiller, though, no more than loads of top class players, not reaching latter stages seems to be the yardstick (unfairly too I think)...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 11/02/2021 16:43:11    2331080

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Slightly off topic but I reckon Kevin McManamon is surely one of the most influential players never honoured with an all star. Had a big say in some of Dublin's All Ireland wins and probably a couple we would not have won without him, the super-sub role maybe is not recognised for it's true value.

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 685 - 11/02/2021 16:46:00    2331081

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Perhaps the greatest travesty to have ever happened in the all star era. And that is saying something."
Paddy Keean was one of the best footballers I ever seen, Dublin/Kerry/Mayo/Tyrone I dont care, Paddy Keenan was gifted...David Reilly I think was another outstanding forward, not to mention Colin Kelly...one of the best ever..Louth have had more, I know...Stefan White and they had an exception half back too around the time of Kelly/Reilly and the Hanlons..his name escapes me..an excellent player...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 11/02/2021 16:46:21    2331082

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "John Galvin got the midfield place on the players team that year but not on the Journalists etc team. He was the only player, who was not on the All Stars team, thus nominated. Stephen Lucey absolutely destroyed Kevin Donaghy that day, as he did to so many other good footballers, but nothing doing either. I have lost respect for how these awards are given and do not agree with the idea that an All Ireland team has to automatically have six or seven All Stars, while great players from weaker counties are not even considered."
excellently put, Limerick have had several excellent footballers over the years..Ian Ryan is another, and ye had an excellent forward too before him for many years...his name escapes me..

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 11/02/2021 16:48:26    2331084

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Replying To sligo joe:  "Slightly off topic but I reckon Kevin McManamon is surely one of the most influential players never honoured with an all star. Had a big say in some of Dublin's All Ireland wins and probably a couple we would not have won without him, the super-sub role maybe is not recognised for it's true value."
always contributed did Kevin McManamon, never fully recognised I do agree...a great player...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 11/02/2021 16:49:38    2331085

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Replying To sligo joe:  "Slightly off topic but I reckon Kevin McManamon is surely one of the most influential players never honoured with an all star. Had a big say in some of Dublin's All Ireland wins and probably a couple we would not have won without him, the super-sub role maybe is not recognised for it's true value."
I have to agree with you. Maybe because of his supersub role he was never considered properly. A brilliant footballer for Dublin. Solid as a rock and always delivered. I remember Connolly was put off v Donegal in semi 2011 and appealed to play in final. When I heard he won appeal I was delighted( in a selfish way) as I did nt want Kevin Mac to start as he was the one Dub player I was terrified of as he ran at defenses. Altho I was a massive admirer of Connolly s silken skills I feared Kevin. He did nt start but when he came on he broke Kerry hearts and the rest was history. Also anytime he started he was always a thorn in the oppositions side. Very unlucky not to get an all star.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 11/02/2021 19:40:09    2331102

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "excellently put, Limerick have had several excellent footballers over the years..Ian Ryan is another, and ye had an excellent forward too before him for many years...his name escapes me.."
The man you are thinking of is Stephen Kelly from Newcastle.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4338 - 11/02/2021 21:47:17    2331126

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Donnacha O Connor should have got one in 2010. From a Cork prospective it's a complete robbery Donnacha never got at least one all star during his career.

Don't think anyone can deny his quality as one of the top forwards in the country during his playing days.

pkboher (Cork) - Posts: 49 - 12/02/2021 07:59:54    2331148

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Replying To sligo joe:  "Slightly off topic but I reckon Kevin McManamon is surely one of the most influential players never honoured with an all star. Had a big say in some of Dublin's All Ireland wins and probably a couple we would not have won without him, the super-sub role maybe is not recognised for it's true value."
Agreed - never a Dub fan but Kevin Mac is one of my favourite players of the last 20 years. Always a buzz when he came on the field.

opa01 (Cavan) - Posts: 503 - 12/02/2021 09:54:28    2331151

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Replying To pkboher:  "Donnacha O Connor should have got one in 2010. From a Cork prospective it's a complete robbery Donnacha never got at least one all star during his career.

Don't think anyone can deny his quality as one of the top forwards in the country during his playing days."
Did your (Corks) Patrick Kelly ever get an allstar?...he was a nifty wing forward, didnt have a long intercounty career but was a class act on any given day..I am amazed Donnacha O'Connor never got one myself...didnt know he didnt until you posted it...a fine corner forward he was..a great free taker too wasnt he...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 12/02/2021 10:35:43    2331160

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