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Replying To FoolsGold:  "Those players were living in the county so played for them. Currans original point was players can just transfer to counties like some Nfl draft system"
Which reminds me. . .is Seanie still making the long commute from Athy every day?

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 04/02/2021 14:39:32    2330273

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "
Replying To hopballref:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  "Kilkenny do field a county football team."
Not in the National League or All Ireland championship?"
12 counties contested the 2019 All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship, does that mean the other 20 counties in Ireland do not have hurling teams?"]Not entirely true, five counties contested two provincial championships, while five countries contested the Joe McDonagh Cup and the finalists qualified for preliminary quarterfinals for the McCarthy Cup which means that fifteen counties contested the All Ireland senior hurling championship. Laois, a McDonagh Cup team actually beat Dublin, a qualifier from the Leinster Championship.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1063 - 04/02/2021 16:29:52    2330282

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Replying To MillerX:  "
Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "[quote=hopballref:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  "Kilkenny do field a county football team."
Not in the National League or All Ireland championship?"
12 counties contested the 2019 All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship, does that mean the other 20 counties in Ireland do not have hurling teams?"]Not entirely true, five counties contested two provincial championships, while five countries contested the Joe McDonagh Cup and the finalists qualified for preliminary quarterfinals for the McCarthy Cup which means that fifteen counties contested the All Ireland senior hurling championship. Laois, a McDonagh Cup team actually beat Dublin, a qualifier from the Leinster Championship."]No. A total of twelve teams compete in the Senior Hurling Championship - five in the Leinster championship, five in the Munster championship, and the two Joe McDonagh Cup finalists who enter at the preliminary quarter-final stage. The Joe McDonagh Cup is not part of the Senior Hurling Championship.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2466 - 04/02/2021 16:53:27    2330283

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Replying To daytona11:  "Gaelic Athletic Association."
Gaelic Athletic Association. Association is another word for amateur and / or voluntary

Cuhullain (Kildare) - Posts: 271 - 04/02/2021 19:49:55    2330298

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Replying To Galway9801:  "What does the gaa stand for?"
The National Anthem and lads getting in late to their seats!

Onion_Sack (Dublin) - Posts: 203 - 04/02/2021 20:50:08    2330302

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Replying To Onion_Sack:  "The National Anthem and lads getting in late to their seats!"
What is wrong with the National- are there two of them - three in the case of the Aviva- played before every major rugby game.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4321 - 04/02/2021 21:30:24    2330304

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Replying To Cuhullain:  "Gaelic Athletic Association. Association is another word for amateur and / or voluntary"
Nonsense. The word association means (in the GAA sense), I quote: An organized body of people who have an interest, activity, or purpose in common; a society.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2466 - 04/02/2021 22:11:25    2330308

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There has to be a connection, such as a parent or moving for a job.

The interesting thing now is that with remote working having worked well, it frees people up to work from wherever they want. Hopefully see people moving back out of Dublin, which is over-crowded and over-priced.

I'd be against the mercenary thing of someone moving to a better county that they don't care about, just to win medals.

I'd have no interest whatsoever in club or county success based on a team of mercenaries. It'd be an embarrassment.

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 05/02/2021 01:16:19    2330314

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "P. J. McIntyre was a Garda from Offaly. He spent most of his career in Kenmare County Kerry. He was a dual player and played both codes for both Offaly and Kerry in the late 60s and early 70s.I wonder is there anymore players that played dual for two different counties. Vinny Murphy played both hurling and football for Dublin but only played hurling for Kerry(he did nt get the football call up). McIntyre s son who was also a Garda played hurling for Kerry but died in tragic circumstances in a car crash a few years back. Séamus McIntyre r. I. p.."
Benny Tansey played hurling and football for Roscommon in the late 70's , was a Garda based in Meath and transferred to a club there and subsequently played inter county football and hurling for Meath in the 80's. Benny was from the Galway side of the bridge in Ballyforan and played with his local clubs Four Roads ( H) and St Aidans ( F) before transferring. Very fondly remembered in these parts and unfortunately died some years ago.

facethepuckout (Roscommon) - Posts: 214 - 05/02/2021 09:55:07    2330319

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Replying To Cuhullain:  "Gaelic Athletic Association. Association is another word for amateur and / or voluntary"
That must mean the NBA is amateur too. Who knew Michael Jordan wasn't getting paid a penny all those years.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2042 - 05/02/2021 10:13:02    2330321

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Replying To facethepuckout:  "Benny Tansey played hurling and football for Roscommon in the late 70's , was a Garda based in Meath and transferred to a club there and subsequently played inter county football and hurling for Meath in the 80's. Benny was from the Galway side of the bridge in Ballyforan and played with his local clubs Four Roads ( H) and St Aidans ( F) before transferring. Very fondly remembered in these parts and unfortunately died some years ago."
Good man face. Thanks for that.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3676 - 05/02/2021 12:52:07    2330333

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Replying To Viking66:  "It's a professional business organisation with many paid positions. Not to mention the rumours surrounding the numerous "unpaid" managers at club and county level. Even the refs at club games get expenses far in excess of petrol money which they share with the umpires in my personal experience. The players and alot of grassroots coaches are amateurs. Amateurism isnt what the GAA stands for."
Croke Park is the professional wing of the association, clubs, players and club members belong to the amateur wing, the gaa is a registered amateur body, organization, or association, I'm told it's wrote into it's constitution.

Cuhullain (Kildare) - Posts: 271 - 05/02/2021 13:14:37    2330335

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "The gaa is semi pro for years especially the club. In Dublin players were promised things to go to certain clubs. Stephen Cluxton went public a few years ago in disgust the way his club paid mobile phone bills etc for players they poached..Cluxton would nt play for the senior team for a period over this carry on saying they were not the players he grew up with. Also loads of clubs all over the country are paying managers even at a low level. Amateur my foot."
This Cluxton saga invovled the transfer of some midlands Inter-County players to Parnells GAA Club.These players where transfered not poached if they were poached they would not be allowed transfer. What upset Cluxton was two things, it was depriving homegrown Parnells players positions on the club senior team and also the fact the players were offered paid jobs in the club first and then transfered in. But I do take your point, not a pleasant business. While of course there was nothing illegal with it, but it was/is a practise frowned upon by most Dublin clubs. There are a few notable exceptions who actively seek out non county talent. But quite a few Senior clubs in Dublin do not do this. Part of the problem is Universities in Dublin have players that maybe want to transfer and also players get jobs and move there permanently. Hopefully remote working will free up our overcrowded city and more importantly allow county players to stay in their counties a great opportunity for rural Ireland to tap into.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 05/02/2021 15:46:49    2330354

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Replying To arock:  "This Cluxton saga invovled the transfer of some midlands Inter-County players to Parnells GAA Club.These players where transfered not poached if they were poached they would not be allowed transfer. What upset Cluxton was two things, it was depriving homegrown Parnells players positions on the club senior team and also the fact the players were offered paid jobs in the club first and then transfered in. But I do take your point, not a pleasant business. While of course there was nothing illegal with it, but it was/is a practise frowned upon by most Dublin clubs. There are a few notable exceptions who actively seek out non county talent. But quite a few Senior clubs in Dublin do not do this. Part of the problem is Universities in Dublin have players that maybe want to transfer and also players get jobs and move there permanently. Hopefully remote working will free up our overcrowded city and more importantly allow county players to stay in their counties a great opportunity for rural Ireland to tap into."
Well yes arock I should nt have said poached but maybe lured but yes I'm talking about intercounty players from other counties. In Dublin clubs there is a club in the northside that some don't like for poaching players over the years but it is frowned upon in general.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3676 - 05/02/2021 21:03:03    2330389

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Replying To Cuhullain:  "Croke Park is the professional wing of the association, clubs, players and club members belong to the amateur wing, the gaa is a registered amateur body, organization, or association, I'm told it's wrote into it's constitution."
You're just waffling at this stage. There are no "wings" of the GAA distinguished by whether they are amateur or professional. Playing members are amateur but there's numerous paid professionals in the GAA, doing executive, administrative, coaching roles etc.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1644 - 06/02/2021 12:27:04    2330422

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Replying To CastleBravo:  "You're just waffling at this stage. There are no "wings" of the GAA distinguished by whether they are amateur or professional. Playing members are amateur but there's numerous paid professionals in the GAA, doing executive, administrative, coaching roles etc."
I am truly sorry and I sincerely apologise if my post has offended you in any way, after only a total of 225 posts I'm baffled, I'm going to post it again and omit the offensive word, wing, please don't reply, instead give me a green thumb if your happy, if your not I can do no more, my apologies again.


Croke Park is where the professional administration of the association takes place, clubs, players and club members belong to the amateur and every day happenings from club house to playing field, the gaa is a registered amateur body, organization, or association, I'm told it's wrote into it's constitution.

For the record I'm a hurling only and I love every minute of it, I'm very happy to say we had a very, very, very successful year, I was called a lot of things on the field, but never told I was waffeling.

An Crioch.

Cuhullain (Kildare) - Posts: 271 - 06/02/2021 13:48:03    2330428

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Replying To Cuhullain:  "I am truly sorry and I sincerely apologise if my post has offended you in any way, after only a total of 225 posts I'm baffled, I'm going to post it again and omit the offensive word, wing, please don't reply, instead give me a green thumb if your happy, if your not I can do no more, my apologies again.


Croke Park is where the professional administration of the association takes place, clubs, players and club members belong to the amateur and every day happenings from club house to playing field, the gaa is a registered amateur body, organization, or association, I'm told it's wrote into it's constitution.

For the record I'm a hurling only and I love every minute of it, I'm very happy to say we had a very, very, very successful year, I was called a lot of things on the field, but never told I was waffeling.

An Crioch."
Managers get paid.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1708 - 06/02/2021 16:52:35    2330449

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Replying To Cuhullain:  "I am truly sorry and I sincerely apologise if my post has offended you in any way, after only a total of 225 posts I'm baffled, I'm going to post it again and omit the offensive word, wing, please don't reply, instead give me a green thumb if your happy, if your not I can do no more, my apologies again.


Croke Park is where the professional administration of the association takes place, clubs, players and club members belong to the amateur and every day happenings from club house to playing field, the gaa is a registered amateur body, organization, or association, I'm told it's wrote into it's constitution.

For the record I'm a hurling only and I love every minute of it, I'm very happy to say we had a very, very, very successful year, I was called a lot of things on the field, but never told I was waffeling.

An Crioch."
I think I may have merged a few "the GAA can't have employees" posters together, so apologies for any offending comments.

On the topic at hand, I had typed up a big reply but the GAA Official Guide actually puts it more succinctly than I ever could:

" Section 1.10 Amateur Status

The Association is an Amateur Association. A player, team, official or member shall not accept payment in cash or in kind in conjunction with the playing of Gaelic Games...........This Rule shall not prohibit the payment of salaries or wages to employees of the Association. "

Emphasis my own.

So as I said, the GAA -the same GAA that the players and clubs are members of-is explicitly stated in its official guide to have professional employees, and pays them salaries. There's no distinction between the GAA paying executors and GPOs, and the GAA we all play and support.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1644 - 06/02/2021 19:00:04    2330463

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Replying To CastleBravo:  "I think I may have merged a few "the GAA can't have employees" posters together, so apologies for any offending comments.

On the topic at hand, I had typed up a big reply but the GAA Official Guide actually puts it more succinctly than I ever could:

" Section 1.10 Amateur Status

The Association is an Amateur Association. A player, team, official or member shall not accept payment in cash or in kind in conjunction with the playing of Gaelic Games...........This Rule shall not prohibit the payment of salaries or wages to employees of the Association. "

Emphasis my own.

So as I said, the GAA -the same GAA that the players and clubs are members of-is explicitly stated in its official guide to have professional employees, and pays them salaries. There's no distinction between the GAA paying executors and GPOs, and the GAA we all play and support."
Misunderstood.

Cuhullain (Kildare) - Posts: 271 - 07/02/2021 20:39:00    2330571

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