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When did the tradition of the bishop throwing in the ball at the start of a game cease. eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1654 - 13/01/2021 18:19:52 2327278 Link
Replying To eoinog: "When did the tradition of the bishop throwing in the ball at the start of a game cease." When society came to its senses. Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1908 - 13/01/2021 20:30:46 2327298 Link
When Archbishop Morris was nearly hit by the sliotar in the 1980 Munster final! johnocarroll17 (Limerick) - Posts: 408 - 13/01/2021 21:17:42 2327305 Link
Now that's a strange topic. Thankfully as a nation we're finally freeing ourselves from the shackles of the catholic church. thegadfly (Cavan) - Posts: 290 - 13/01/2021 21:19:37 2327306 Link
Replying To thegadfly: "Now that's a strange topic. Thankfully as a nation we're finally freeing ourselves from the shackles of the catholic church." Think the shackles of the Catholic Church have been well left behind... Now we've got the Woke, perpetually offended and outraged by everything Shackles to deal with. skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1062 - 13/01/2021 21:28:50 2327309 Link
Some laugh seeing that from old film clips. Ireland was a sick country. After independence, they handed the running of the country over to the Catholic Church...everyone brainwashed. Joke yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11229 - 13/01/2021 21:39:43 2327312 Link
Replying To thegadfly: "Now that's a strange topic. Thankfully as a nation we're finally freeing ourselves from the shackles of the catholic church." the FEAR of the catholic church, it was pure fear, they could, and did, destroy anyone who dared to have a mind of their own Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2841 - 13/01/2021 21:47:56 2327314 Link
And of course the kissing of the bishop's ring, although I wouldn't say this was confined to GAA matches :D realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8589 - 13/01/2021 22:14:39 2327317 Link
Replying To eoinog: "When did the tradition of the bishop throwing in the ball at the start of a game cease." Not a bishop, but a Big Fella (Leinster Final 1921 - Dublin 4-4 Kilkenny 1-5). link Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2458 - 13/01/2021 22:16:14 2327318 Link
Replying To skillet: "Think the shackles of the Catholic Church have been well left behind... Now we've got the Woke, perpetually offended and outraged by everything Shackles to deal with." Boy have you got that one right skillet. One highly intolerant orthodoxy has been replaced by another even more intolerant orthodoxy. I'm not for one second defending what it did but at least the Catholic Church never pretended to be tolerant and inclusive. This so called liberal, inclusive and tolerant crowd we have to listen to now are only liberal, tolerant and inclusive if you agree with what they say. If you're not they'll "cancel" you which is the new term for obliterate you. No throwing the ball in for those boys. Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 13/01/2021 22:48:33 2327324 Link
Replying To skillet: "Think the shackles of the Catholic Church have been well left behind... Now we've got the Woke, perpetually offended and outraged by everything Shackles to deal with." Yeah coz that's the same thing isn't it. When the 'Woke and perpetually offended' start raping children and burying babies in septic tanks come back to us with your talk of shackles. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13707 - 13/01/2021 22:59:23 2327329 Link
Oh we have a terrible past,we did well to survive the priest ridden society of my youth. Looking back,it was great to have ones own open mind despite the brainwashing. I remember it all, bishops throwing in the sliothar and the crowd singing Faith of our Fathers before every intercounty game...well in Munster anyway and my first intercounty game was in 1955. We still have a bit to go especially with the schools,particularly primary schools. ONdeDITCH (Limerick) - Posts: 873 - 13/01/2021 23:09:51 2327330 Link
Replying To Greengrass: "Boy have you got that one right skillet. One highly intolerant orthodoxy has been replaced by another even more intolerant orthodoxy. I'm not for one second defending what it did but at least the Catholic Church never pretended to be tolerant and inclusive. This so called liberal, inclusive and tolerant crowd we have to listen to now are only liberal, tolerant and inclusive if you agree with what they say. If you're not they'll "cancel" you which is the new term for obliterate you. No throwing the ball in for those boys." The thing about Catholicism in practice is that its totally lacking in humanity,some of us copped it at an early age but more and more have copped it throughout my lifetime thankfully.There will always be a cohort that can't drag themselves away from it. ONdeDITCH (Limerick) - Posts: 873 - 13/01/2021 23:25:03 2327335 Link
Replying To ONdeDITCH: "Oh we have a terrible past,we did well to survive the priest ridden society of my youth. Looking back,it was great to have ones own open mind despite the brainwashing. I remember it all, bishops throwing in the sliothar and the crowd singing Faith of our Fathers before every intercounty game...well in Munster anyway and my first intercounty game was in 1955. We still have a bit to go especially with the schools,particularly primary schools." Particularly primary schools? Do you work in one? Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 14/01/2021 00:50:28 2327342 Link
Replying To yew_tree: "Some laugh seeing that from old film clips. Ireland was a sick country. After independence, they handed the running of the country over to the Catholic Church...everyone brainwashed. Joke" Have to agree here 100%. The power the Catholic Church got back in the 20's was disgraceful. Is it true that every new Taoiseach had to ring the head bishop in Ireland to be told how to run the country? Think that stopped when Charlie haughey told them where to go!! superdub (Dublin) - Posts: 392 - 14/01/2021 09:45:46 2327351 Link
Plenty of priests did a lot of great work to, building parish halls, looking after the sick etc etc . Id 2 uncles in London who were on the streets and only for great work by irish priest's would have died long before they did. Of course there was bad eggs but there was a hell of a lot of good priests also . OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 672 - 14/01/2021 10:03:45 2327353 Link
Replying To ONdeDITCH: "The thing about Catholicism in practice is that its totally lacking in humanity,some of us copped it at an early age but more and more have copped it throughout my lifetime thankfully.There will always be a cohort that can't drag themselves away from it." I can't accept that in practice Catholicism is lacking in humanity. I see people who are practising Catholics showing humanity every day. Kindness and compassion for your fellow human beings was at the core of Jesus message. Like most philosophies men twisted and corrupted the philosophy in order to develop and maintain power. The desire to gain and maintain power is a characteristic innate in humanity . It is not confined to the church. Look at the desire to conquer, subjugate and exploit fellow human beings. That has manifested itself since the dawn of recorded time. Another characteristic of mankind that has manifested itself even in the face of the most vile, appalling crimes is the instinct to protect the institution. That was particularly apparent in the Churches especially the Catholic Church. It is also apparent in government institutions worldwide. It can also be seen in financial institutions especially banks. A common denominator in a lot of this is that the ordinary individual in these institutions does not partake in this vile corruption. It is those in positions of power who do so. The Catholic hierarchy chose to practise, condone and conceal this vile abuse. Corruption, sadly, is part of the human condition. That is why I can't accept that there is no humanity in Catholicism. You'll see humanity and compassion demonstrated by ordinary Catholics as they live their daily lives. Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 14/01/2021 10:40:45 2327359 Link
Replying To MesAmis: "Yeah coz that's the same thing isn't it. When the 'Woke and perpetually offended' start raping children and burying babies in septic tanks come back to us with your talk of shackles." Sadly, child abuse is as prevalent as ever in our society. Over 70,000 contacts made to Childline in the first three months of Lockdown. Rebel2020 (Cork) - Posts: 75 - 14/01/2021 10:45:12 2327360 Link
Replying To MesAmis: "Yeah coz that's the same thing isn't it. When the 'Woke and perpetually offended' start raping children and burying babies in septic tanks come back to us with your talk of shackles." I don't for a minute defend the Church and what occurred but I worked for over 10 years as a therapist with children who suffered abuse . I have a fair idea of what I'm talking about when I say that all of it came into their lives through family members or friends of the family..nothing to do with Catholicism. In fact I remember well when the head of CARI made a point of saying that the whole blaming the Catholic Church for everything wrong in Ireland was ridiculous and completely missed the point that most historical abuse happened in the home. So yeah the Woke and offended are just as capable of crime against kids as anyone in society.. The shackles I was talking about means you can't actually point out the fact or anything close to criticism of a fairly insane ideology. Just look at JK Rowlings experience.. She's a good example of what happens when the self righteousness kicks off. skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1062 - 14/01/2021 11:32:37 2327369 Link
Replying To skillet: "I don't for a minute defend the Church and what occurred but I worked for over 10 years as a therapist with children who suffered abuse . I have a fair idea of what I'm talking about when I say that all of it came into their lives through family members or friends of the family..nothing to do with Catholicism. In fact I remember well when the head of CARI made a point of saying that the whole blaming the Catholic Church for everything wrong in Ireland was ridiculous and completely missed the point that most historical abuse happened in the home. So yeah the Woke and offended are just as capable of crime against kids as anyone in society.. The shackles I was talking about means you can't actually point out the fact or anything close to criticism of a fairly insane ideology. Just look at JK Rowlings experience.. She's a good example of what happens when the self righteousness kicks off." Nail on the head again skillet. Very well said. Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 14/01/2021 11:47:22 2327371 Link