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HS Readers' Football Team Of The Year 2020

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Thanks to all who helped us pick our Football Team of the Year for 2020.

The results are in:

HS Readers' Football Team of the Year 2020

GOALKEEPER: 

1. Raymond Galligan (Cavan)


DEFENDERS:

2. Michael Fitzsimons (Dublin)

3. Padraig Faulkner (Cavan)

4. Oisin Mullin (Mayo)

5. Patrick Durcan (Mayo)

6. James McCarthy (Dublin)

7. John Small (Dublin)


MIDFIELDERS:

8. Brian Fenton (Dublin)

9. Thomas Galligan (Cavan)


FORWARDS:

10. Niall Scully (Dublin)

11. Ciaran Kilkenny (Dublin)

12. Con O'Callaghan (Dublin)

13. Cillian O'Connor (Mayo)

14. Dean Rock (Dublin)

15. Conor Sweeney (Tipperary)

Administrator (None) - Posts: 2274 - 12/01/2021 20:23:36    2327177

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Replying To Administrator:  "Thanks to all who helped us pick our Football Team of the Year for 2020.

The results are in:

HS Readers' Football Team of the Year 2020

GOALKEEPER: 

1. Raymond Galligan (Cavan)


DEFENDERS:

2. Michael Fitzsimons (Dublin)

3. Padraig Faulkner (Cavan)

4. Oisin Mullin (Mayo)

5. Patrick Durcan (Mayo)

6. James McCarthy (Dublin)

7. John Small (Dublin)


MIDFIELDERS:

8. Brian Fenton (Dublin)

9. Thomas Galligan (Cavan)


FORWARDS:

10. Niall Scully (Dublin)

11. Ciaran Kilkenny (Dublin)

12. Con O'Callaghan (Dublin)

13. Cillian O'Connor (Mayo)

14. Dean Rock (Dublin)

15. Conor Sweeney (Tipperary)"
It's a fine team admin.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 12/01/2021 21:03:35    2327180

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How many minutes did James McCarthy play in the half back line in 2020?

the_walls (Mayo) - Posts: 495 - 12/01/2021 21:41:08    2327184

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Easy to see there's a lot more Cavan posters on here with getting three on the team. Ray Galligan is a certainty for goalkeeper and Thomas Galligan will likely get a spot too (even though i don't think he's worthy, that's just me) but a third one is surely stretching it a bit. From the way the defenders was going I half expected they'd get a 4th with Ciaran Brady.

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 13/01/2021 09:40:26    2327201

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Replying To the_walls:  "How many minutes did James McCarthy play in the half back line in 2020?"
He played the second half against Mayo in half back line anyway and in fairness plays a lot of football back there.

hopballref (Galway) - Posts: 377 - 13/01/2021 10:20:20    2327209

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Replying To brian:  "Easy to see there's a lot more Cavan posters on here with getting three on the team. Ray Galligan is a certainty for goalkeeper and Thomas Galligan will likely get a spot too (even though i don't think he's worthy, that's just me) but a third one is surely stretching it a bit. From the way the defenders was going I half expected they'd get a 4th with Ciaran Brady."
You're correct. . . It is just you.

Go thru the threads and take the Cavan posters' votes out of it and see how many changes there are.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 13/01/2021 10:50:55    2327215

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Replying To brian:  "Easy to see there's a lot more Cavan posters on here with getting three on the team. Ray Galligan is a certainty for goalkeeper and Thomas Galligan will likely get a spot too (even though i don't think he's worthy, that's just me) but a third one is surely stretching it a bit. From the way the defenders was going I half expected they'd get a 4th with Ciaran Brady."
I'd be interested to know who would you have instead of Thomas Galligan? Meath's Brian Menton?

delialli (Cavan) - Posts: 10 - 13/01/2021 11:47:25    2327228

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Replying To delialli:  "I'd be interested to know who would you have instead of Thomas Galligan? Meath's Brian Menton?"
Don't be iditotic suggesting Menton. What has that got to do with my point. I don't do green tinted glasses. I'm not RoyalDunne. Menton wasn't even the best midfielder on the Meath team.

I was honest and said Thomas was ineffective versus the Dubs when it mattered most. That's what earning an All Star is about for me, doing it in Coke Park. He didn't so in my opinion (and unfortunately they're likely a**holes, everyone has one) he shouldn't get one. For me Matthew Ruane performed well in both games in Croke Park so would get it for me.

I've never denied for a second I think Thomas will get one. And good luck to the lad, but as i say, when it mattered most he was marked absent. And correct me if I'm wrong but didn't his frustration get the better of him on the day and he ended up being sent off. All stars don't give in to frustration and get themselves sent off, they find ways to get on top. He didn't plain and simple.

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 13/01/2021 13:19:18    2327244

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Replying To brian:  "Don't be iditotic suggesting Menton. What has that got to do with my point. I don't do green tinted glasses. I'm not RoyalDunne. Menton wasn't even the best midfielder on the Meath team.

I was honest and said Thomas was ineffective versus the Dubs when it mattered most. That's what earning an All Star is about for me, doing it in Coke Park. He didn't so in my opinion (and unfortunately they're likely a**holes, everyone has one) he shouldn't get one. For me Matthew Ruane performed well in both games in Croke Park so would get it for me.

I've never denied for a second I think Thomas will get one. And good luck to the lad, but as i say, when it mattered most he was marked absent. And correct me if I'm wrong but didn't his frustration get the better of him on the day and he ended up being sent off. All stars don't give in to frustration and get themselves sent off, they find ways to get on top. He didn't plain and simple."
Well if you are talking about when it 'mattered most' he came on at half time against Monaghan (Division 1 team) when Cavan were 6 points down and changed the game and he got man of the match. Then in the Ulster final where it 'mattered most' against Donegal (Division 1 team) he also got man of the match. I think them 2 games alone should justify his All Star. Against Dublin he was in at full forward and was starved of ball. All BBC pundits said he was the best player in 2020 in the Ulster championship so...

delialli (Cavan) - Posts: 10 - 13/01/2021 14:10:47    2327249

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Replying To brian:  "Don't be iditotic suggesting Menton. What has that got to do with my point. I don't do green tinted glasses. I'm not RoyalDunne. Menton wasn't even the best midfielder on the Meath team.

I was honest and said Thomas was ineffective versus the Dubs when it mattered most. That's what earning an All Star is about for me, doing it in Coke Park. He didn't so in my opinion (and unfortunately they're likely a**holes, everyone has one) he shouldn't get one. For me Matthew Ruane performed well in both games in Croke Park so would get it for me.

I've never denied for a second I think Thomas will get one. And good luck to the lad, but as i say, when it mattered most he was marked absent. And correct me if I'm wrong but didn't his frustration get the better of him on the day and he ended up being sent off. All stars don't give in to frustration and get themselves sent off, they find ways to get on top. He didn't plain and simple."
It's not that plain and simple tho.

He caused the Dublin defence all sorts of trouble, despite so little ball going in.

He scored a cracking point.

Philly McMahon fouled him and got away with it. It was as clear a penalty as you'll ever see.

Under a breaking ball he went up for, Johnny Cooper fouled Martin Reilly and nothing was given (less clear cut but it was a foul and penalty).

Had the officials done their job, you can imagine the "Galligan is wreaking havoc" cries from the commentators.

Incompetent officiating costing someone a deserved all star would be shameful. I can't see the a selection panel backing up the poor officiating performance. So it's a shame it's clouded your judgement of his performance so much.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 13/01/2021 14:38:36    2327254

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Replying To brian:  "Easy to see there's a lot more Cavan posters on here with getting three on the team. Ray Galligan is a certainty for goalkeeper and Thomas Galligan will likely get a spot too (even though i don't think he's worthy, that's just me) but a third one is surely stretching it a bit. From the way the defenders was going I half expected they'd get a 4th with Ciaran Brady."
All 3 are fully deserved. The 2 Galligans are certainties for me while Faulkner is a very fair selection in the full back line. The full back line is the line where there is the least amount of strong candidates so putting Faulkner in there who had a great Ulster championship and held his own against Dublin is a good choice.

Kerry15 (Kerry) - Posts: 958 - 13/01/2021 17:51:15    2327274

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Replying To brian:  "Easy to see there's a lot more Cavan posters on here with getting three on the team. Ray Galligan is a certainty for goalkeeper and Thomas Galligan will likely get a spot too (even though i don't think he's worthy, that's just me) but a third one is surely stretching it a bit. From the way the defenders was going I half expected they'd get a 4th with Ciaran Brady."
Thomas Galligan deserves an all star for the mark he made at midfield that led to the goal against Donegal alone! It was some fetch.

thegadfly (Cavan) - Posts: 290 - 13/01/2021 21:32:38    2327311

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Replying To Kerry15:  "All 3 are fully deserved. The 2 Galligans are certainties for me while Faulkner is a very fair selection in the full back line. The full back line is the line where there is the least amount of strong candidates so putting Faulkner in there who had a great Ulster championship and held his own against Dublin is a good choice."
Totally agree Kerry15. All three fully deserved.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1910 - 14/01/2021 03:56:53    2327345

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If Thomas Galligan gets a All Star can anyone remember the last player to get one in the same year they hot sent off in a game. To the best of my knowledge that used to rule players out from selection for what ever reason

sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1145 - 14/01/2021 09:08:55    2327349

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Replying To cavanman47:  "It's not that plain and simple tho.

He caused the Dublin defence all sorts of trouble, despite so little ball going in.

He scored a cracking point.

Philly McMahon fouled him and got away with it. It was as clear a penalty as you'll ever see.

Under a breaking ball he went up for, Johnny Cooper fouled Martin Reilly and nothing was given (less clear cut but it was a foul and penalty).

Had the officials done their job, you can imagine the "Galligan is wreaking havoc" cries from the commentators.

Incompetent officiating costing someone a deserved all star would be shameful. I can't see the a selection panel backing up the poor officiating performance. So it's a shame it's clouded your judgement of his performance so much."
If the referee didn't give frees in the instances you mention then they weren't frees.
Just your take on things and of no real importance.
Commentators cries are not relevant either in an attempt to justify anything.
Come out of the clouds lad.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 14/01/2021 09:57:16    2327352

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Replying To sourmilk93:  "If Thomas Galligan gets a All Star can anyone remember the last player to get one in the same year they hot sent off in a game. To the best of my knowledge that used to rule players out from selection for what ever reason"
I don't know can I tell you the last player but there's been a few higher profile cases, such as Charlie Redmond (1995 - AI final) and Liam McHale (1996 - AI final). I'm sure there were a few others who were sent off in earlier rounds but still received an All Star award.

Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 567 - 14/01/2021 12:19:36    2327377

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Replying To sourmilk93:  "If Thomas Galligan gets a All Star can anyone remember the last player to get one in the same year they hot sent off in a game. To the best of my knowledge that used to rule players out from selection for what ever reason"
Think the rule was you weren't allowed get an all star if you were booked up to the early 90's. That was done away with and i think another poster mentioned Charlie and McHale getting them in 95 and 96. With the advent of ticks and cards in GAA the rule was done away with. In terms of the last player to be sent off and get an all star something in my head is saying Cillian O'Connor. I think 2/3 years ago he got sent off a couple of times in the same campaign and won an all star still. Not casting any doubt on whether either cards or all stars were deserved.

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 14/01/2021 14:44:54    2327403

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Replying To thegadfly:  "Thomas Galligan deserves an all star for the mark he made at midfield that led to the goal against Donegal alone! It was some fetch."
If that was the case Jordan Morris should get one for the 0-2 and 0-7 he scored against Dublin and Monaghan as a sub, the 3-4 he scored v Wicklow, 1-1 v Kildare and 0-4 v Dublin.

Will Morris get one, not a chance. Should Morris get one, again not a chance.

Will Galligan get one, yes i think he will, Should Galligan get one, in my opinion no he shouldn't.

As i said opinions are like a**holes, everyone has one.

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 14/01/2021 14:49:46    2327404

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Replying To brian:  "If that was the case Jordan Morris should get one for the 0-2 and 0-7 he scored against Dublin and Monaghan as a sub, the 3-4 he scored v Wicklow, 1-1 v Kildare and 0-4 v Dublin.

Will Morris get one, not a chance. Should Morris get one, again not a chance.

Will Galligan get one, yes i think he will, Should Galligan get one, in my opinion no he shouldn't.

As i said opinions are like a**holes, everyone has one."
I didn't actually mean that literally. That was my attempt at humour to lighten the mood. Unfortunately it seems you don't have a sense of humour so you didn't quite grasp it. So let me guess you're from North Meath where there's a bit of rivalry and you have sour grapes. Come on admit it

thegadfly (Cavan) - Posts: 290 - 14/01/2021 23:00:16    2327492

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Replying To thegadfly:  "I didn't actually mean that literally. That was my attempt at humour to lighten the mood. Unfortunately it seems you don't have a sense of humour so you didn't quite grasp it. So let me guess you're from North Meath where there's a bit of rivalry and you have sour grapes. Come on admit it"
What would i have sour grapes about. I love Cavan people, i even married one of them. So I've a life time of getting one over Cavan people, nothing to be sour about here ;) Not my fault cavan men weren't good enough and she had to come up the road for something better. See there you go i do have a sense of humour ;)

And yes i knew you didn't mean it literally, i was illustrating a point. I was accused of green tinted glasses, not by yourself mind, which i've never had. As i've said every time on this I think Thomas Galligan will get an all star, but to my mind he doesn't deserve one. Just my opinion.

And what rivalry, Cavan have never been and never will be a rival to me as a Meath supporter. Our rivals are Dublin, always have been and always will be. I grew up in the 80's and 90's when a win for either team over the other meant almost as much as an all ireland. I know they're getting the better of things now and they wouldn't consider anyone a rival but the amount of Dublin fans who want a strong Meath team is staggering. Hopefully in the next few years when this exceptional team does break up Meath can bridge the gap and we do have something more akin to those games of the 80's 90's and 00's.

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 15/01/2021 09:45:10    2327511

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