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Well Cian Lynch was pulled for two hand passes which were clearly shown on slow play back to be proper hand passes. Anyway the referee could not possibly have see the second one as he was blind sided, yet he blew it anyway. Meanwhile Noel McGrath picked a ball clean off the ground in the build up to a Tipp goal, which just might have been decisive. The play back clearly showed that the ball was picked off the ground and there was a system upstairs where Hawkeye is monitored. Why should the fourth official, who is in contact with the ref, not be able to inform his colleague of such a blatant foul of the ball.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4285 - 17/01/2021 09:56:59 2327786 Link 0 |
Oh you better believe it.You're great if you manage to win one , less so if you win another shortly afterwards and after that you generally get the " ah hang on now " attitude and how can they be winning. What are they up to like and how has this happened. Looking back at Kilkenny's most successful period was the same. They were basically despised by some who would rather see anyone win bar them hoors. If Limerick win it again next year it will become worse again. Tyrone got it in a big way in the football when they won 3 All Ireland's in the 00's and were basically told they were the ruination of football.Everyone can remember that " puke football " outburst from a certain Kerry man. Dublin's historic achievements are basically being called " the death of football " and are largely going unheralded. The bottom line is , most will be delighted for you as long as you don't win too often. Everyone should get a medal mentality when we all know that's not how sport or life is. It's always been that way though. catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 17/01/2021 10:10:06 2327787 Link 0 |
It just came up in discussions I had with mates and you'd see it on here too,, what annoyed me so much about that era was how meek the other counties were. I rentmber the 2015 all Ireland final when kilkenny just totally out fought us in the 2nd half. Their players,, some of whom had 7 all Ireland medals wanted it more than our lads who had none. I was disgusted lol but when I came on here afterwards you'd swear the cats had committed some sort of crime by winning. Shefflin mentioned it in his book too. Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1668 - 17/01/2021 10:12:26 2327788 Link 0 |
It's not just Limerick with the hand passing, they're all at it, richie hogan appeared to throw the ball to reid for a goal too. Everyone was raving about the goal but I was waiting for the throw to be highlighted, it wasn't. gahfan (Wexford) - Posts: 631 - 17/01/2021 11:57:21 2327798 Link 0 |
So Hogan appeared to throw the ball you say. Why would you say appeared if you were sure? Basically, you're not and you know it. catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 17/01/2021 12:44:00 2327802 Link 0 |
Surprised Cody hasn't brought in a replacement for Carey must feel that Martin Comerford and James Mcgarry are contributing to the setup. Maroonforever (Galway) - Posts: 414 - 17/01/2021 12:55:18 2327803 Link 0 |
Well it watched it several times to try to see a striking action but couldn't. You seem determined to defend the current game of hurling or disagree with my view. What's your own view? The steategic fouling? The emphasis on size and athleticism? The throwing? The steps? The cynical fouling? gahfan (Wexford) - Posts: 631 - 17/01/2021 14:03:56 2327805 Link 0 |
Well if you make a case for your point based on something that you cannot stand over then expect disagreement. Also, you're suggesting that there are issues with the current game while failing to recognize that they have been part and parcel of it for decades. Stop digging lad. catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 17/01/2021 14:31:11 2327809 Link 0 |
What's wrong with size and athleticism. This has been part of the game with decades. Going back to the fifties Wexford were a huge team and you could hardly say that the KK team of the early 21st Century were midgets. Apart from that players like Cian Lynch, Sean Finn, Mike and Peter Casey, Darragh O'Donovan, Graham Mulcahy, Ritchie Hogan and the two McGraths of Tipp are huge men, among others of similar stature from other counties, and they all seem to be well able to hold their own in the modern game.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4285 - 17/01/2021 15:21:29 2327812 Link 0 |
I heard Carey wanted to start Colin Fennelly in semi final. Cody overruled him. Carey was not happy with his say in picking team. That is why he walked.
Newyorkkat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 124 - 17/01/2021 15:26:03 2327813 Link 0 |
I dont think they are jaded they are just not as talented. The record most of the panel has at u20/1 just isnt as good as previous Kilkenny squads. If it wasnt for Cody they wouldn't have won Leinster last year or beaten Limerick the year before.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11486 - 17/01/2021 17:03:33 2327821 Link 0 |
It's a credit to him that hes achieved all that with the panel he has currently.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11486 - 17/01/2021 17:05:31 2327822 Link 0 |
Read that too. Only 8 Limerick men on the Munster panel. So what? Munster is a professional provincial team with players from all over world.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11486 - 17/01/2021 17:10:18 2327823 Link 0 |
Hand passes can get the ball moving quicker and that style can be exciting to watch. Agree about the cynical fouling though. If it prevents a goal chance it should result in a penalty. The game of hurling needs more goals.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11486 - 17/01/2021 17:14:06 2327824 Link 0 |
If he walked because of what you say he obviously hasnt the right temperament to be part of an inter county management team. The manager, Cody, has to have the last word on team selection. If it goes wrong hes the one who will get the blame. Besides against that Waterford team I'd say Cody knew Kilkenny needed to defend from the front back to match them. Fennelly is a good old fashioned centre forward but not mobile enough for that. Same as Walter Walsh. Horses for courses.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11486 - 17/01/2021 17:18:16 2327825 Link 0 |
I can stand over it. Watch a hurling match. Watch the all Ireland final. They were throwing the ball to each other a few metres away. The refs seem to let it go. Possibly because it's done so fast or they've been shown how to get away with it. Commentators don't mention it either. It has become the norm and accepted. I much preferred hurling about ten years ago. Now go away and watch some matches from 2020. gahfan (Wexford) - Posts: 631 - 17/01/2021 17:31:35 2327828 Link 0 |
Have to agree with you Viking, being part of a selection backroom panel means you have a say in team selection but you are just one voice and I really doubt that Carey left due to he being unhappy with one call on team selection. Carey has been around a long time and knows how Cody works and highly unlikely that Carey left due to one call. Thrwre is too much history and I daresay respect between the 2 to have Carey leave on a flimsy excuse. It's really remarkable that Brian still has the hunger energy and enthusiasm to still want to be there. And, it's still incredible that he won a Leinater last year. Yes Waterford recovered from a poor first half to beat the Cats but Coady still fully deserves to be still in charge. Apart from his record, he does command full respect from players and he has a steady backroom team . Limerick have stretched ahead with Galway not too far behind with Waterford not too far behind the Tribesmen. After that it's a toss up with The Banner and Cork there and with probably a rejuvenated Tipp team , a Wexford and Dublin teams Kilkenny will command full respect from every team. Hard to see when we will have any hurling again, but every team, every manager and every fan nationwide has massive respect for Cody. carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1812 - 17/01/2021 17:58:00 2327829 Link 0 |
Exactly. The whole article, as far as I could see, was based on a rubbish argument.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4285 - 17/01/2021 18:02:26 2327831 Link 0 |
You can't stand over it and you've proved that. You watched it numerous times trying to see the throw and couldn't. Most of the issues you have with modern game have been present for decades. You've obviously not seen too many games pre 2000. Try looking at some and stop your spoofing. catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 17/01/2021 19:21:54 2327843 Link 0 |
Incorrect. I watched it numerous times and could only see a throw. Anyway thay was just one example of many. It's rife in the game. Throwing the ball was never in the game. I think I've made my point at this stage. gahfan (Wexford) - Posts: 631 - 17/01/2021 20:26:58 2327855 Link 0 |