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Basically what yis are saying is
"We're tacitly aware that hurling is the number 1 GAA sport in all but Kerry but here are some spurious reasons why this fact isn't relevant and you're all bitter for acknowledging it and discussing it on a GAA discussion board. Look at the the big bad dubs"
Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12115 - 28/01/2021 13:53:03
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Replying To TheUsername: "Well i wasn't there and im guessing you were Mick, so if you say the toughest game was against Cork ill believe you. Dublin had Kerrys number in the late 70s after not seeing them coming in the middle of the decade, before that Dublin team broke up after th elast win, both were wonderful teams, we were lucky to go again in 84. But the fact remains Leinster broke up Kerrys runs, the Dubs in 70s, Offaly in the early 80s and Meath in the latter 80s, all those counties winning All Irelands - imagine trying to get out Leinster then. Im just illustrating my point. I know Leinster is awful now and id fully acknowledge its hugely enabling for Dublin, not breaking a sweat until a quarter/semi final. I think if everyone's honest its like that for Dublin now & its been that way for Kerry for a long time, thats not taking away from their achievements or tradition, or saying in anyway that their at fault.
Munster and Leinster aren't fit for purpose Mick, they need urgent restructuring. I think it takes away from the integrity of the game as both Leinster and Munster are huge advantages to Kerry and Dublin, its not fair on Ulster or Connacht presently - its much more difficult for them to win All Irelands.
I agree with much of what you say Mick and have 100% respect for your opinion, but i dont think we will agree on this. Its like Dublin trying to argue that Kilkenny are massively competitive in the Leinster football championship.
Neither Dublin or Kerry need the advantage or the leg up their provinces offer. Id love a split championship through the divisions, could you imagine Dublin, Kerry, Cork, Meath Kildare and one or two others in a provincial, be classs, we should all crave and rise to the challenge of that level of competition if we want to call ourselves big counties and show off our tradition in my opinion anyway, neither Dublin or Kerry need long grass to be hiding in.
Elsewise a Div 3/4 separate championship between Munster/Leinster counties would bring those counties on competitively instead of getting battered by Dublin and Kerry.
Anyow im sure, we will agree to differ." Meath didn't break up Kerrys run in the late 80s as you state, we played Meath in the 86 allireland semifinal and beat them 2:13 to 0:12, it was Cork that broke up our dominance.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 28/01/2021 13:53:25
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Replying To TheUsername: "Well i wasn't there and im guessing you were Mick, so if you say the toughest game was against Cork ill believe you. Dublin had Kerrys number in the late 70s after not seeing them coming in the middle of the decade, before that Dublin team broke up after th elast win, both were wonderful teams, we were lucky to go again in 84. But the fact remains Leinster broke up Kerrys runs, the Dubs in 70s, Offaly in the early 80s and Meath in the latter 80s, all those counties winning All Irelands - imagine trying to get out Leinster then. Im just illustrating my point. I know Leinster is awful now and id fully acknowledge its hugely enabling for Dublin, not breaking a sweat until a quarter/semi final. I think if everyone's honest its like that for Dublin now & its been that way for Kerry for a long time, thats not taking away from their achievements or tradition, or saying in anyway that their at fault.
Munster and Leinster aren't fit for purpose Mick, they need urgent restructuring. I think it takes away from the integrity of the game as both Leinster and Munster are huge advantages to Kerry and Dublin, its not fair on Ulster or Connacht presently - its much more difficult for them to win All Irelands.
I agree with much of what you say Mick and have 100% respect for your opinion, but i dont think we will agree on this. Its like Dublin trying to argue that Kilkenny are massively competitive in the Leinster football championship.
Neither Dublin or Kerry need the advantage or the leg up their provinces offer. Id love a split championship through the divisions, could you imagine Dublin, Kerry, Cork, Meath Kildare and one or two others in a provincial, be classs, we should all crave and rise to the challenge of that level of competition if we want to call ourselves big counties and show off our tradition in my opinion anyway, neither Dublin or Kerry need long grass to be hiding in.
Elsewise a Div 3/4 separate championship between Munster/Leinster counties would bring those counties on competitively instead of getting battered by Dublin and Kerry.
Anyow im sure, we will agree to differ." Well Meath did nt beat Kerry in the 80 s and but anyway yes the provincial are a problem but when one looks at the great joy they brought Cavan and Tipperary it's a hard call. We won't solve it today anyway.
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Replying To oneoff: "How is it any difference to what you're saying?" It's your hypocrisy that's the point. You're the one who saying not to change the goalposts. Are these rules only applied when you like it ? Probably.
catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 28/01/2021 13:57:50
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Replying To Breffni40: "Basically what yis are saying is
"We're tacitly aware that hurling is the number 1 GAA sport in all but Kerry but here are some spurious reasons why this fact isn't relevant and you're all bitter for acknowledging it and discussing it on a GAA discussion board. Look at the the big bad dubs"" I have nt said one bad word about the Dubs Breffni..Read my posts again if you like. Dublin are the benchmark we want to get to.
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3673 - 28/01/2021 13:59:54
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Replying To Breffni40: "Basically what yis are saying is
"We're tacitly aware that hurling is the number 1 GAA sport in all but Kerry but here are some spurious reasons why this fact isn't relevant and you're all bitter for acknowledging it and discussing it on a GAA discussion board. Look at the the big bad dubs"" No it's you and others who are trying to claim the other Munster counties only play hurling and just don't like the fact people are pointing out otherwise.
Your beloved Dubs are and have been just as dominant in Leinster yet you've no issues with that why is that?
oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 28/01/2021 14:06:16
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Replying To CiarraiMick: "Well Meath did nt beat Kerry in the 80 s and but anyway yes the provincial are a problem but when one looks at the great joy they brought Cavan and Tipperary it's a hard call. We won't solve it today anyway." Apologies Mick, my mistake, remembered Meath won in 87 and presumed (wrongly) it was Kerry. Mea Culpa.
TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 28/01/2021 14:19:28
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Replying To catch22: "It's your hypocrisy that's the point. You're the one who saying not to change the goalposts. Are these rules only applied when you like it ? Probably." How am I? It disproves your point means nothing.
So now explain with all the advantages you claim Kerry have at underage level why they've only one U21/20 All Ireland in over 20 years? As you're go interested in the Kerry minor teams from recent years.
oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 28/01/2021 14:20:53
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Replying To oneoff: "No it's you and others who are trying to claim the other Munster counties only play hurling and just don't like the fact people are pointing out otherwise.
Your beloved Dubs are and have been just as dominant in Leinster yet you've no issues with that why is that?" Kerry 81 Munsters
Dublin 59 Leinsters
Just as dominant ? Dont think so ;-)
superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 28/01/2021 14:21:06
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Replying To oneoff: "No it's you and others who are trying to claim the other Munster counties only play hurling and just don't like the fact people are pointing out otherwise.
Your beloved Dubs are and have been just as dominant in Leinster yet you've no issues with that why is that?" "What about the dubs?"
Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12115 - 28/01/2021 14:24:31
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Replying To superbluedub: "Kerry 81 Munsters
Dublin 59 Leinsters
Just as dominant ? Dont think so ;-)" Next nearest to Kerry Cork with 37 titles.
Next nearest to Dublin Meath 21 titles.
But don't let that get in your way...
oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 28/01/2021 14:32:00
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Replying To Breffni40: ""What about the dubs?"" Did you miss what I said in the post? A quick Google search will give you the answer seeing as you have an issue with others telling you
oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 28/01/2021 14:33:50
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Replying To oneoff: "Next nearest to Kerry Cork with 37 titles.
Next nearest to Dublin Meath 21 titles.
But don't let that get in your way..." Next nearest ! Poor effort indeed ! 81 v 59 -:)
superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 28/01/2021 14:42:52
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Yeah, cos the dubs and their advantages have famously never been discussed on here
Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12115 - 28/01/2021 14:51:45
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Replying To oneoff: "Next nearest to Kerry Cork with 37 titles.
Next nearest to Dublin Meath 21 titles.
But don't let that get in your way..." What about the next nearest after that. I'm guessing you won't go down that road
Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12115 - 28/01/2021 14:55:04
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Replying To superbluedub: "Next nearest ! Poor effort indeed ! 81 v 59 -:)" But it's not. Dublin have won as many Leinster titles as Kerry have in Munster. Are those figures wrong? You can Google it if you're not sure. It's very easy to do.
oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 28/01/2021 14:55:57
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Replying To Breffni40: "Yeah, cos the dubs and their advantages have famously never been discussed on here" But you get very worked up about it when it's soneone other than Dublin.
BTW why is a Cavan man so interested in all things Dublin?
oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 28/01/2021 15:00:43
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Replying To oneoff: "Next nearest to Kerry Cork with 37 titles.
Next nearest to Dublin Meath 21 titles.
But don't let that get in your way..." So dublin have 59 leinster and the next nearest is Meath with 21? Wow they kept that 1 quite.
So not much of a difference between Cork and Kerry in Munster and dublin and Meath in Leinster.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 28/01/2021 15:08:16
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Replying To oneoff: "But you get very worked up about it when it's soneone other than Dublin.
BTW why is a Cavan man so interested in all things Dublin?" You'll find I rarely talk about the Dubs. Wanna tell me why a UK man like yourself has such an interest in Dublin and Kerry?
Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12115 - 28/01/2021 15:13:02
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Replying To oneoff: "How am I? It disproves your point means nothing.
So now explain with all the advantages you claim Kerry have at underage level why they've only one U21/20 All Ireland in over 20 years? As you're go interested in the Kerry minor teams from recent years." I just explained why you are being hypocritical. Read above again.
Again , you chose to ignore the minor titles. Hilarious. Keep it up. I believe they are underage level too.
catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 28/01/2021 15:18:15
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