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Replying To Saynothing:  "Backdoor system would suit if they stick to provincials but don't think it's needed if they go open draw."
Sound man, open draw would be straight knockout so, it would be grand for a change if they were up for it.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 24/01/2021 22:58:20    2328833

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "They're practically the same party, would a united Ireland suit FF and FG?"
Probably not. They are the 2 halves of the same thing ok- 1 signed for partition after the other set them up.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11725 - 25/01/2021 07:18:29    2328842

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Has to be between Donegal and Tyrone for Ulster, only the bounce of a ball between them. Connacht any of the big 3."
Tyrone might be stronger with lads returning to the panel? At the same time anyone can beat anyone in Ulster on the day

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11725 - 25/01/2021 07:20:36    2328843

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "There's something approaching 7 million people living in the 32 counties, why are we still allowing 1 million unionists to keep this country partitioned so they can live in their gerrymandered little failed statelet and pretend they are british and democrats,
It's long past time we had this border poll, Brexit and Covid makes the need for unity essential if it wasn't obvious already.
There needs to be an All ireland approach to controlling Covid 19 and this may not be last pandemic we see, if it was an animal disease the All Ireland approach would have there from the start.
It's time politicians started leading instead of clowning about like headless chickens."
Couldn't agree more that's the most accurate post I've seen on here well said

Irishcelt (Wicklow) - Posts: 149 - 25/01/2021 10:20:26    2328856

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Replying To Viking66:  "Probably not. They are the 2 halves of the same thing ok- 1 signed for partition after the other set them up."
100%, they have it all set up for them selves and when they get beaten they eventually join up, they should just merge all though it probably suits them to keep the country devided.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 25/01/2021 10:45:15    2328862

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We're going to have a lot sorted by the end of this Covid Pandemic:-
A united Ireland, a reunited FF/FG, Dublin split, the catholic Church completely sidelined,anything else...oh Kerry to win Sam again!

ONdeDITCH (Limerick) - Posts: 873 - 25/01/2021 21:42:22    2328944

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "My predictions for the semi finals this year, Tyrone v Kerry and Dublin v ??? I can't call Connacht. don't know what to make of Galway and Mayo are rebuilding, maybe the Rossies will win it."
A lot of very wishful thinking by some on here regarding the fixtures.... ;o)

NFL wont be starting until the end of March now, and GAA have already said there will be no repeat of Winter All Ireland Finals.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2021/0126/1192185-allianz-leagues-set-to-be-delayed-until-end-of-march/

I predict no qualifiers and a straight knockout Championship again this year. All to play for, and no back-door....

So, as has been confirmed on here by others, it will be:-
Leinster v Connacht AI Football Semi Final
Munster v Ulster AI Football Semi Final

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3724 - 26/01/2021 20:33:26    2329061

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Replying To ONdeDITCH:  "We're going to have a lot sorted by the end of this Covid Pandemic:-
A united Ireland, a reunited FF/FG, Dublin split, the catholic Church completely sidelined,anything else...oh Kerry to win Sam again!"
And a Sinn Fein coalition Govt vs an opposition of UUP, FG, FF, DUP all the yesterday folk. And Mayo's curse will still survive covid

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 26/01/2021 21:47:32    2329073

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Replying To Fionn:  "A lot of very wishful thinking by some on here regarding the fixtures.... ;o)

NFL wont be starting until the end of March now, and GAA have already said there will be no repeat of Winter All Ireland Finals.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2021/0126/1192185-allianz-leagues-set-to-be-delayed-until-end-of-march/

I predict no qualifiers and a straight knockout Championship again this year. All to play for, and no back-door....

So, as has been confirmed on here by others, it will be:-
Leinster v Connacht AI Football Semi Final
Munster v Ulster AI Football Semi Final"
I get what your saying Fionn but you can't call it a straight knockout and then go the provincial route.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2006 - 26/01/2021 23:27:13    2329087

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "There's something approaching 7 million people living in the 32 counties, why are we still allowing 1 million unionists to keep this country partitioned so they can live in their gerrymandered little failed statelet and pretend they are british and democrats,
It's long past time we had this border poll, Brexit and Covid makes the need for unity essential if it wasn't obvious already.
There needs to be an All ireland approach to controlling Covid 19 and this may not be last pandemic we see, if it was an animal disease the All Ireland approach would have there from the start.
It's time politicians started leading instead of clowning about like headless chickens."
On the one hand you're talking of the need for "unity" yet in the same paragraph you're trivialising the fears of a million of your fellow citizens,, dismissing their failed state, mocking their belief in their British identity.
A rejuvenated and newly motivated loyalist movement,, taking their seats in the Dáil,, and having power there will be a reality of this brave new Ireland,,dint forget that.
We will see a 32 county Republic soon,, but if you're an accurate representation of the border poll movement I think it will be a long time before we see a united one.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1698 - 26/01/2021 23:52:04    2329090

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "There's something approaching 7 million people living in the 32 counties, why are we still allowing 1 million unionists to keep this country partitioned so they can live in their gerrymandered little failed statelet and pretend they are british and democrats,
It's long past time we had this border poll, Brexit and Covid makes the need for unity essential if it wasn't obvious already.
There needs to be an All ireland approach to controlling Covid 19 and this may not be last pandemic we see, if it was an animal disease the All Ireland approach would have there from the start.
It's time politicians started leading instead of clowning about like headless chickens."
Well said. Arlene Foster recently said that she considers all flights into Belfast from the likes of Glasgow, Manchester, London and Cardiff as internal British flights, so quarantining those passengers is a no go. What can you say about that type of intransigence? People of every denomination dying on a daily basis and people living day to day in awful lonely monotony and the DUP still acting as they do.

The dogs on the street knew that Boris & the Tories used the DUP to get what they wanted and that at the very first available opportunity they would throw them under the bus. Everyone knew this but the DUP themselves. Paisley Jnr ranting away in parliament recently with his rolled up bit of paper.

An all island approach, even temporarily to appease the DUP, should have been adopted months ago never mind now. The attitude from FF/FG appears to be that it would be too difficult. It begs the question what are they doing in politics so? Everyone can see that rolling lockdowns aren't working, and the vaccine rollout will not be a smooth one either so something has to give. People are getting very restless.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9115 - 27/01/2021 09:10:39    2329103

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Replying To Galway9801:  "On the one hand you're talking of the need for "unity" yet in the same paragraph you're trivialising the fears of a million of your fellow citizens,, dismissing their failed state, mocking their belief in their British identity.
A rejuvenated and newly motivated loyalist movement,, taking their seats in the Dáil,, and having power there will be a reality of this brave new Ireland,,dint forget that.
We will see a 32 county Republic soon,, but if you're an accurate representation of the border poll movement I think it will be a long time before we see a united one."
A United Ireland won't be a republic though. More like a federal state with a new constitution, new flag, anthem etc.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11227 - 27/01/2021 11:23:15    2329124

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Well said. Arlene Foster recently said that she considers all flights into Belfast from the likes of Glasgow, Manchester, London and Cardiff as internal British flights, so quarantining those passengers is a no go. What can you say about that type of intransigence? People of every denomination dying on a daily basis and people living day to day in awful lonely monotony and the DUP still acting as they do.

The dogs on the street knew that Boris & the Tories used the DUP to get what they wanted and that at the very first available opportunity they would throw them under the bus. Everyone knew this but the DUP themselves. Paisley Jnr ranting away in parliament recently with his rolled up bit of paper.

An all island approach, even temporarily to appease the DUP, should have been adopted months ago never mind now. The attitude from FF/FG appears to be that it would be too difficult. It begs the question what are they doing in politics so? Everyone can see that rolling lockdowns aren't working, and the vaccine rollout will not be a smooth one either so something has to give. People are getting very restless."
That is the problem though, you have nearly a million people on this island, maybe more who have a British identity, part of the island is in the UK until the majority vote otherwise. They don't see Glasgow or London as a foreign country, to them it is their country and we in the south are the foreigners. I don't understand how people don't get this. And there will be no such thing as a united Ireland if we don't respect all those people's British identity, we may not understand it but for a new republic to work we will have to.

The DUP aren't going to seal themselves off from 'the mainland' as they call it, so are we going to close the border here between south and north to attain a zero covid status. That's over 300 crossing points fully manned with probably 5-6 personnel between each, on a 24 hour rota. The cost is colossal and unworkable.

republicofcloone (Leitrim) - Posts: 375 - 27/01/2021 11:41:06    2329126

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Lads is it not worth considering playing club championship first starting around June and ending in September. Given smaller crowds attending these games. Then as the year goes on hopefully by time we start inter county end of September the Covid situation will be much improved and supporters may be able to attend games. Do inter county players really want to play another year without the buzz of a crowd ?

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 27/01/2021 11:52:34    2329128

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Replying To republicofcloone:  "That is the problem though, you have nearly a million people on this island, maybe more who have a British identity, part of the island is in the UK until the majority vote otherwise. They don't see Glasgow or London as a foreign country, to them it is their country and we in the south are the foreigners. I don't understand how people don't get this. And there will be no such thing as a united Ireland if we don't respect all those people's British identity, we may not understand it but for a new republic to work we will have to.

The DUP aren't going to seal themselves off from 'the mainland' as they call it, so are we going to close the border here between south and north to attain a zero covid status. That's over 300 crossing points fully manned with probably 5-6 personnel between each, on a 24 hour rota. The cost is colossal and unworkable."
I agree with that you've said. Forget about sealing the border with the North. That is not going to happen, it is unworkable & would introduce too much aggro. I'm not suggesting either that the Unionists suddenly need to lay down the sashes and take up hurling. All I'm saying is that for a period of 3 months or so, introduce strict quarantining of ALL incoming arrivals to every port and airport on the island. Now obviously there will still be a need for essential travelers and trade requirements, but they would have separate and distinct procedures to follow.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9115 - 27/01/2021 12:01:10    2329129

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Replying To Afinestick:  "Lads is it not worth considering playing club championship first starting around June and ending in September. Given smaller crowds attending these games. Then as the year goes on hopefully by time we start inter county end of September the Covid situation will be much improved and supporters may be able to attend games. Do inter county players really want to play another year without the buzz of a crowd ?"
Club must take priority. I don't believe club should go first it's too risky. Too many players living at home with parents, lads travelling from all over the country for training and games. With the current state of play and community transmission along with a more easily transmissible variant, the inter county is less risky due to there being less people involved.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11227 - 27/01/2021 12:32:11    2329138

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Replying To Afinestick:  "Lads is it not worth considering playing club championship first starting around June and ending in September. Given smaller crowds attending these games. Then as the year goes on hopefully by time we start inter county end of September the Covid situation will be much improved and supporters may be able to attend games. Do inter county players really want to play another year without the buzz of a crowd ?"
if there is a risk of a repeat of last years scenes after county finals,there isnt a hope of clubs going first.
honestly,i would write everything off for now.revisit the situation in april.give players a break.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 27/01/2021 12:47:16    2329143

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In hindsight I think going ahead with the hurling and football championships was a really bad idea. There were establishments "packed to the rafters" watching finals and plenty people gathering together in houses watching the games. I know personal responsibility comes into it but you could say that about anything in life. Did the GAA honestly believe people weren't going to group together watching games ?

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 27/01/2021 15:37:58    2329171

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Replying To republicofcloone:  "That is the problem though, you have nearly a million people on this island, maybe more who have a British identity, part of the island is in the UK until the majority vote otherwise. They don't see Glasgow or London as a foreign country, to them it is their country and we in the south are the foreigners. I don't understand how people don't get this. And there will be no such thing as a united Ireland if we don't respect all those people's British identity, we may not understand it but for a new republic to work we will have to.

The DUP aren't going to seal themselves off from 'the mainland' as they call it, so are we going to close the border here between south and north to attain a zero covid status. That's over 300 crossing points fully manned with probably 5-6 personnel between each, on a 24 hour rota. The cost is colossal and unworkable."
Paisley was the most British Politician the North ever knew and back in 2001, during a Foot and Mouth Crisis, he said Ireland as a whole should be treated as one and separate to mainland GB, for the duration of that crises. Just common sense I suppose. Then I suppose the health of cattle was more important that that of Humans

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4316 - 27/01/2021 15:50:52    2329173

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Replying To republicofcloone:  "That is the problem though, you have nearly a million people on this island, maybe more who have a British identity, part of the island is in the UK until the majority vote otherwise. They don't see Glasgow or London as a foreign country, to them it is their country and we in the south are the foreigners. I don't understand how people don't get this. And there will be no such thing as a united Ireland if we don't respect all those people's British identity, we may not understand it but for a new republic to work we will have to.

The DUP aren't going to seal themselves off from 'the mainland' as they call it, so are we going to close the border here between south and north to attain a zero covid status. That's over 300 crossing points fully manned with probably 5-6 personnel between each, on a 24 hour rota. The cost is colossal and unworkable."
Paisley was the most British Politician the North ever knew and back in 2001, during a Foot and Mouth Crisis, he said Ireland as a whole should be treated as one and separate to mainland GB, for the duration of that crises. Just common sense I suppose. Then I suppose the health of cattle was more important that that of Humans. I might also add that, when he wanted to best represent Ulster Farmers in the EU he joined Irish Ag Ministers to make a case, as he felt Irish farmers had problems unique to this island like those of their counterparts in the North.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4316 - 27/01/2021 15:56:10    2329175

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