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I see the GAA have pushed inter county training to the start of Feb at the earliest. In the current climate it is the right decision but inevitably this is likely to push the national league to at least the end of March.

I guess the fact there is a condensed league allows some time. Whilst it was right inter county went first how things are moving could result in something like a end of March/ April - August inter county window which would might allow some crowds at the games mid season. No need for the GAA to continue with original dates and for safety and the good of the inter county game today's move is a good one.

Still plenty of time for the club game in August onwards.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 05/01/2021 12:40:58    2326098

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When is the draw taken place for this years football and hurling championships does anyone have an idea?

Irishcelt (Wicklow) - Posts: 149 - 05/01/2021 16:05:53    2326127

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Replying To tonguey:  "Don't know why they even bother with inter county at all. It's irrelevant now. Suppose they have to fulfil contracts with sky and rde (raidio Dublin Éireann). Apart from that there's no point coz Dublin will win football and limerick hurling. Rest of us will fight it out to see who can get within ten points of Dublin."
Bet you 1 or other doesn't win the All Ireland this year.....

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11864 - 05/01/2021 20:42:15    2326198

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Replying To Viking66:  "Bet you 1 or other doesn't win the All Ireland this year....."
Limerick might be beaten- just cant see the Dubs been stopped.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4321 - 05/01/2021 22:25:32    2326217

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Replying To Viking66:  "Bet you 1 or other doesn't win the All Ireland this year....."
I'd be surprised if they either of them lose.
I'd be almost certain that the dubs will win.
As for limerick, they might be caught by galway or tipp but I won't be betting against them.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1708 - 05/01/2021 23:40:37    2326225

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Replying To centerfield:  "would it not make sense for the inter county season in 21 to be pushed out so that if the vaccine works and get rolled out in significant amounts by mid year, there may be attendance at inter county matches"
The GAA will try and push out the county now and squeeze the club

In reality they should use this season to try something different

Scrap the leagues for this year and have open draw championships - tier 1 and 2

Tier 1 - div 1, 2 and 3 - avoids all crying over who lost a chance to qualify through league
Tier 2 - div 4

Tier 1 - 8 groups of 3 - all play each other once at neutral venues (Dublin also)
Tier 2 - 2 groups of 4

Tier 1 groups produce last 16 - bottom 8 enter tier 2 playoff

Tier 2 quarterfinals consist of top 2 in each tier 4 group and 4 winners of tier 1 relegation playoffs

All knock out from there on

Only 6 weekends needed to win all Ireland and tail team cup

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1109 - 17/01/2021 09:23:51    2327784

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Replying To Galway9801:  "I'd be surprised if they either of them lose.
I'd be almost certain that the dubs will win.
As for limerick, they might be caught by galway or tipp but I won't be betting against them."
Anyone can catch anyone on a given day. Agree I think Limerick are favourites for it and rightly so and tbh I would be happy enough to see them win a few more but as you say Galway with their underage conveyor belt are most likely of the other counties to beat them on a day. Hard to know where Tipp will be- same as every year since I started following hurling in 89. Could be brilliant or the same panel could be ordinary. I think Waterford will be a little better. Cork will be better. Clare will be alot better. Even Wexford should be better than they were last year when their tackle rate was only nearly 50% of what it was in 2019. Kilkenny will bring the usual intensity and caught Limerick in 2019. Limerick will have to be at least as good as they were last year and that will be hard to achieve as they were outstanding and everything went right with injuries and no covid cases.
As regards the Dubs they haven't had great underage success for a good few years now and alot of the golden generation are coming to the end of their amazing careers. They are obviously favourites but I think not by as much as any of the previous 6 years.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11864 - 17/01/2021 10:34:27    2327789

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "The GAA will try and push out the county now and squeeze the club

In reality they should use this season to try something different

Scrap the leagues for this year and have open draw championships - tier 1 and 2

Tier 1 - div 1, 2 and 3 - avoids all crying over who lost a chance to qualify through league
Tier 2 - div 4

Tier 1 - 8 groups of 3 - all play each other once at neutral venues (Dublin also)
Tier 2 - 2 groups of 4

Tier 1 groups produce last 16 - bottom 8 enter tier 2 playoff

Tier 2 quarterfinals consist of top 2 in each tier 4 group and 4 winners of tier 1 relegation playoffs

All knock out from there on

Only 6 weekends needed to win all Ireland and tail team cup"
Geographically arranged groups on account of covid? Y would you have to do away with the league as your championship only uses 6 weekends?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11864 - 17/01/2021 10:37:52    2327790

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As I see it, we are unlikely to have national leagues and so we will have a truncated championship leaving the club to again be the main focus of GAA for 21.
The covid numbers will push the government to ensure elite training will be much later than planned, possibly into April.
Would that leave time for a league... I dont think so.
So, knockout championship at inter county and then full club championships.

Where will that leave finishing club championships for 2020 ?!!! Not going to be easy.

carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1821 - 17/01/2021 20:17:04    2327853

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Replying To carlowman:  "As I see it, we are unlikely to have national leagues and so we will have a truncated championship leaving the club to again be the main focus of GAA for 21.
The covid numbers will push the government to ensure elite training will be much later than planned, possibly into April.
Would that leave time for a league... I dont think so.
So, knockout championship at inter county and then full club championships.

Where will that leave finishing club championships for 2020 ?!!! Not going to be easy."
You could have a decent (fair) all Ireland in 6 weeks - see above

Club football could be played in most counties in 6 weeks also (no leagues) as long as they stop at semis

Clubs cannot be trusted with celebrations after club finals

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1109 - 21/01/2021 22:27:24    2328408

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Replying To republicofcloone:  "Run the football off over two weekends in may, semi final between Mayo and Kerry and Dublin with a bye to the final which they will win. Let the other counties carry on with club competitions."
Super idea, Not.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2014 - 22/01/2021 19:46:04    2328575

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Replying To tonguey:  "Super idea. Why would you bother bringing mayo or Kerry up though for a semi and the winners go into the annual turkey shoot?! Be silly. Let them toss and if they want to play the game organise a ref from Dublin or any neighbouring county to stick with tradition."
Don't play then, other teams will. Blame Dublin for everything.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2014 - 22/01/2021 19:50:02    2328577

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Replying To tonguey:  "Don't know why they even bother with inter county at all. It's irrelevant now. Suppose they have to fulfil contracts with sky and rde (raidio Dublin Éireann). Apart from that there's no point coz Dublin will win football and limerick hurling. Rest of us will fight it out to see who can get within ten points of Dublin."
Did Cavan turn up to play Dublin in Semifinal? I say turn up, field a team. So other teams should quit now?

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2014 - 22/01/2021 19:56:36    2328582

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So if the Leagues don't start till March,should the club championships be played in summer and the AI championships played in Autumn/Winter with the chance that there may be supporters allowed in as has been mentioned in some quarters and provide the GAA with much needed revenue.There might not be a grant this year and the GAA might have to borrow money to run the championships.

ONdeDITCH (Limerick) - Posts: 873 - 22/01/2021 20:01:40    2328584

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With no Super 8's this year, and just assuming all SFC Provincial Champions in 2021 make it to the AI Semi Finals, am I correct in suggesting that the draw follows on from older years rotation, so would it be a :-

Leinster v Munster SFC Semi Final
Connacht v Ulster SFC Semi Final

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3733 - 22/01/2021 23:03:29    2328620

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "You could have a decent (fair) all Ireland in 6 weeks - see above

Club football could be played in most counties in 6 weeks also (no leagues) as long as they stop at semis

Clubs cannot be trusted with celebrations after club finals"
You would hope that by September/October that club celebrations won't matter in the grand scheme of things but that latest delay in vaccinations is worrying.

Add that that the inadequacy of this government. The borders should be sealed shut including the one with Northern Ireland as much as that will upset people. We did it for foot and mouth and it needs to be done now.

This is serious. Australia is almost back to normal due to very strict border policy and curfews on the streets. Army backed up local police and took no sh1t.

Friend of mine in Melbourne is enjoying a pint out with the lads as I type this.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11231 - 23/01/2021 10:29:19    2328629

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "You could have a decent (fair) all Ireland in 6 weeks - see above

Club football could be played in most counties in 6 weeks also (no leagues) as long as they stop at semis

Clubs cannot be trusted with celebrations after club finals"
There's been no club championship matches in 4 months, I must check the Covid numbers, they must be really low now.

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 817 - 23/01/2021 11:08:30    2328634

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inter county Championship should be played mid Aug to end Oct. At that point fair chance that in person attendance might be possible. Surely this makes sense all round for the competition and financially.

centerfield (Mayo) - Posts: 360 - 23/01/2021 11:54:39    2328636

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Replying To yew_tree:  "You would hope that by September/October that club celebrations won't matter in the grand scheme of things but that latest delay in vaccinations is worrying.

Add that that the inadequacy of this government. The borders should be sealed shut including the one with Northern Ireland as much as that will upset people. We did it for foot and mouth and it needs to be done now.

This is serious. Australia is almost back to normal due to very strict border policy and curfews on the streets. Army backed up local police and took no sh1t.

Friend of mine in Melbourne is enjoying a pint out with the lads as I type this."
Why close a border within Ireland? Cases are fractionally worse in the South and have been for a while. Yes close All airports and ports except for cargo but not within Ireland.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2014 - 23/01/2021 11:56:50    2328637

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Replying To Fionn:  "With no Super 8's this year, and just assuming all SFC Provincial Champions in 2021 make it to the AI Semi Finals, am I correct in suggesting that the draw follows on from older years rotation, so would it be a :-

Leinster v Munster SFC Semi Final
Connacht v Ulster SFC Semi Final"
By my calculations the semi s would be Leinster v Connaught and Munster v Ulster.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3676 - 23/01/2021 13:17:30    2328640

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