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No Backpass Rule

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Football clearly needs a no backpass rule. Some of these matches are turning into a farce.

2 simple rules needed:

Kickout must go to 45 yard line if not throw in at 45 yard line.

No passing backwards from outside your 45 back inside your own 45.

Would eradicate most of this keep ball crap teams trying to run down the clock etc

centerfield (Mayo) - Posts: 360 - 19/12/2020 21:57:09    2324186

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This is the rule in Basketball:
At all levels of play, the offensive squad may not bring the ball backward over the half-court line even if this is done by mistake due to an errant pass or a ball dribbled off the foot of an offensive player. If an offensive player is the first to touch a ball that has crossed back over the half-court line, his team will lose possession of the ball. The opposing team will then be awarded the ball at the half-court line

centerfield (Mayo) - Posts: 360 - 20/12/2020 10:14:57    2324400

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Replying To centerfield:  "This is the rule in Basketball:
At all levels of play, the offensive squad may not bring the ball backward over the half-court line even if this is done by mistake due to an errant pass or a ball dribbled off the foot of an offensive player. If an offensive player is the first to touch a ball that has crossed back over the half-court line, his team will lose possession of the ball. The opposing team will then be awarded the ball at the half-court line"
Back court rule. The problem is that it would just encourage the duvet tactics even more and the blanket defence is the real problem here. It works in basketball as teams play zonal defences and there is a shot clock. I think the only solution may be a rule whereby the defending team has to retain x players in the opposition half. Would be difficult to implement though.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 20/12/2020 10:29:46    2324411

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Replying To centerfield:  "This is the rule in Basketball:
At all levels of play, the offensive squad may not bring the ball backward over the half-court line even if this is done by mistake due to an errant pass or a ball dribbled off the foot of an offensive player. If an offensive player is the first to touch a ball that has crossed back over the half-court line, his team will lose possession of the ball. The opposing team will then be awarded the ball at the half-court line"
I have thought like you for years, a perfect rule for Gaeluc football. You will see more keep ball today in Womens final especially with count down clock

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 20/12/2020 10:35:53    2324419

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But they also have a shot clock. Arguably if there was no shot clock they would keep ball in their own half for longer. Not proposing a shot clock either, far from it. But let's start by getting rid of the mark in Gaelic football.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7343 - 20/12/2020 10:46:02    2324426

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Replying To centerfield:  "Football clearly needs a no backpass rule. Some of these matches are turning into a farce.

2 simple rules needed:

Kickout must go to 45 yard line if not throw in at 45 yard line.

No passing backwards from outside your 45 back inside your own 45.

Would eradicate most of this keep ball crap teams trying to run down the clock etc"
Maybe the kickout but it's an area that has improved over the last few years and don't want to out too many rules in place. If a team wants to force a team long then push up. Mayo were good at this last night.

The back pass I'm not convinced on. Teams can push up more to stop this from happening. Mayo ceded far too much with a spare man at the start of the second half. They should have pushed up on dublin.
On a more general level the challenge with pushing up us that the keeper acts as the spare man so that's were a banning a pass to the keeper might make sense (apart from a free). Teams won't be as confident playing the ball round at the back and the team without the ball will have more incentive to hunt the ball down.
Also have to be careful not to base rules in dublins dominance. Take dublin out of the equation and munster and ulster had a great year. Leinster would have been wide open and would all be good with football?

Ulsterchamps_32 (Donegal) - Posts: 692 - 20/12/2020 11:33:09    2324463

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "But they also have a shot clock. Arguably if there was no shot clock they would keep ball in their own half for longer. Not proposing a shot clock either, far from it. But let's start by getting rid of the mark in Gaelic football."
You can't play in your own half because you have to kickout past the 45 and then you can't go back inside your 45

centerfield (Mayo) - Posts: 360 - 20/12/2020 12:34:33    2324504

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It is a no brainer. It should be introduced immediately. In fact I would make it stricter and not allow a handpass to go backwards or laterally, it must go forward. There's zero skill in handing the ball to a fella behind you... with an exemption for if you are on the ground surrounded by players, then the handpass can go back.

republicofcloone (Leitrim) - Posts: 375 - 20/12/2020 13:14:11    2324525

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Congrats to Dublin for their achievement playing within the rules that exist and it is not about them. It is about the game. People will soon again be paying money to go to watch this crap again and deserve better. Reminds me of keep ball we played as kids. What did you do ? You ran around making sure the seeker did not get close to you and if he/she did you threw it to your team mate because there was no one close to them.
We hear from some that the answer is to push up on them. Push up all you like and it will make no difference because now the untouchable goaltender is in the chain. What is the % of turnovers ? At least in soccer the ball is on the ground. If the ball was on the ground playing keep ball how long would you keep it. In rugby there is at least a tackle. The tackle is long gone out of gaelic. Subsequently the dangerous grabbing around the neck. The black card was supposed to punish the offending team. Advantage the offending team. Especially if leading keep ball goes up a notch or two until he comes back on. The real disadvantage is the spectator watch this garbage.
Playing the ball back belongs in the other two sports and leave it there. In our game make it required the ball goes forward. You will see great battles for possession, more kicked passes and catching of the high passes. While at it return to the dead ball kick off the ground. O'Connor kick some god points but my great, great grand mother would score many of them as he walks up 10 steps and changes the angle to kick.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2658 - 20/12/2020 15:05:18    2324596

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