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I see we should join forces with the Ulster Champions and our nearest and dearest neighbours Cavan according to Pat Gilroy on the Sunday Game last night - sure we are exactly the same people based on his observations from DCU! I thought it was funny that Pat picked Monaghan V Cavan as an example given that he knows full well the opposition that such a proposal would receive. The Dubs will do absolutely anything to divert attention away from the absolute necessity at this stage to break them up into at least four teams! OrielPower (Monaghan) - Posts: 107 - 07/12/2020 15:53:15 2319808 Link 1 |
As Kieran Cunningham said on Twitter - if there's any hint of Donegal and Tyrone amalgamating, I'm emigrating ;-) JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 07/12/2020 16:16:01 2319829 Link 3 |
Alternatively Monaghan could join with Louth to save any bickering, and Cavan could join up with Longford FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 07/12/2020 16:25:10 2319837 Link 0 |
There is no point Gilroy talking about a blank sheet of paper. There are red lines and we all know there are. A Cavan and Monaghan amalgamation is simply unthinkable. FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 563 - 07/12/2020 16:26:37 2319839 Link 0 |
Change is 100% required and I enjoyed your post. However in the same way you'd be horrified at the thought of Monaghan football with it's local history, pride and generations disappearing, we have to accept Dublin GAA is very important to Dublin people; this love and pride goes back generations. When a council in Ireland tries to bring a community into it's boundary there is uproar; county boundaries are very important to Irish people. We only have to look at the situation in Roscommon/Mayo to see how deep communuty goes especially in a GAA context. I wouldn't ever agree with spitting Dublin in two unless Dublin GAA and it's people wanted this to happen for whatever reason; it should never be forced on them. It doesn't mean I think something shouldn't happen if Dublin continue to dominate; that may be funding cuts, funding increases, competition reforms, investment in facilities etc in problem areas - the GAA's biggest strength is it's sense of belonging, it is the main reason GAA games are the national sports and people take great pride in where they're from. Drawing a line and saying you longer belong there in a GAA context is not and should never be the answer. But yes it's likely another solution needs to be found to save football if we're in the same situation in 5 years. sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 07/12/2020 16:27:58 2319840 Link 2 |
Of course it would be Donegal/Derry and Tyrone/Armagh!!
Rodeo (Mayo) - Posts: 2 - 07/12/2020 16:29:39 2319841 Link 0 |
Is this the fourth or fifth thread dedicated to the same subject? I've lost count. Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 567 - 07/12/2020 16:38:35 2319845 Link 1 |
Haha dhia whatever about ourselves and Derry, you'd sell tickets for people to see the first meeting suggesting that Tyrone and Armagh join up!
JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 07/12/2020 16:49:31 2319853 Link 0 |
Gilroy is a successful businessman but nothing about him last night was impressive
bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 07/12/2020 16:52:16 2319855 Link 0 |
Dublin split into 2/4 is simply unthinkable and unacceptable
superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 07/12/2020 16:53:42 2319858 Link 0 |
It would definitely be Donegal and Tyrone,Tir Eoghain and Tir Connaill. O'Neill and O'Donnell played together fairly often and often had a few battles between themselves.No connection with Derry,maybe for a soccer team with Derry City and Innishowen.Can't wait,the sky pundits would probably be joint managers.
gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1056 - 07/12/2020 17:05:51 2319863 Link 0 |
Gilroys contribution was the greatest waste of time and was belittling to many other countries. Instead of looking in at Dublin, he just threw it out to everyone else to sort themselves Monaghan and Cavan was comical. Kerry and cork less so even though he tried to be funny with it. TheJackel (Monaghan) - Posts: 18 - 07/12/2020 17:09:09 2319865 Link 1 |
Morty (Westmeath) - Posts: 209 - 07/12/2020 17:15:05 2319867 Link 1 |
I don't get the whole "Dublin should split" idea. Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 07/12/2020 17:16:27 2319869 Link 3 |
Totally agree - it would have to be a decision taken after considerable conversation and a vote by the existing 32 counties. Maybe at the next congress - I wonder what way that would go! On a serious note though it would be a big move for the GAA and I am sure disappoint a lot of Dublin GAA folk leading to even greater Dublin/Anyone But Dublin rivalry. But i think even most Dub supporters agree change is necessary OrielPower (Monaghan) - Posts: 107 - 07/12/2020 17:18:00 2319870 Link 0 |
I think what he did is suggest that we look to strengthen quality rather than dilute it. He is absolutely right. Pool resources rather than leaving Leitrim, Carlow, Wicklow...in the doldrums where young fellas have no realistic chance of winning trophies. I think it will likely end up there. Do you split up Dublin, Mayo, Kerry to bring the standard down a couple of levels to make it more competitive or do you merge smaller counties to pool resources and make it more competitive. As Gilroy said, money won't fix it and there will be a continual drain of talent to Dublin for higher paying jobs.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 07/12/2020 17:22:19 2319874 Link 2 |
Ah I don't know, his ability to constantly talk over everyone (much to Des Cahill's delight it has to be said) and rattle on and on without actually saying anything worthwhile was impressive.
Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 07/12/2020 17:57:27 2319892 Link 6 |
I wouldn't agree with splitting or amalgamation of any counties. I do think the idea of funding needs to be looked at though. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11227 - 07/12/2020 18:20:04 2319902 Link 3 |
The weaker counties would have a better chance with a tiered system. Fermanagh Ladies won a Junior All Ireland at weekend. Armagh won Junior Camogie All Ireland. Both by a goal so it wasn't like they were way too good for that level. Do you think they give a damn that it was Junior? What is it with men's football that we accept tiers at club level but not at inter county? Tiered system needs to come in as soon as possible. I hear some players from weaker counties still want to play for Sam. Well tough. If you want to play for the big prize, prove yourself. FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 563 - 07/12/2020 18:31:51 2319907 Link 0 |
. No he didn't, it was the kind of rubbish that exemplifies the output of RTE News & Sport. However the amalgamation idea brings to mind the possibly apocryphal tale about the first joint meeting of 2 east Galway clubs that had merged. A senior member of one club, a priest no less, made a speech about the need to pull together - let bygones be bygones etc. The former chairman of the 2nd club rose and replied " Well thanks for that Fr but I have to say that's the kind of Sh*** that sickens my h***." timmyhogan (UK) - Posts: 290 - 07/12/2020 18:55:21 2319918 Link 1 |