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If Cavan Beat Dublin. What Shock Equates?

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Cavan 16/1 to beat Dublin.

What shock in Gaelic games, or any sport for that matter, would equate to Cavan beating the Dubs?

Kerry hurlers beating Waterford in 1993? Mullinaghta beating Kilmacud Crokes in 2018? Interesting given the Mickey Graham's involvement.

CC2020 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 153 - 04/12/2020 13:28:29    2318155

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Antrim beating Offaly in 89..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 1446 - 04/12/2020 13:38:19    2318168

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Clare v Kerry 1992

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8285 - 04/12/2020 13:55:14    2318186

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I think it would single handledy be the biggest shock in GAA history. Dublin as defending 5 in a row champions hold all the aces. No other shock comes near what it could potentially be.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1408 - 04/12/2020 13:55:36    2318188

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Buster Douglas knocking out a prime Mike Tyson

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2278 - 04/12/2020 14:16:15    2318207

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The funny thing is, if it were to happen, when people review it they'll say the signs were there!

Dublin's league form wasn't good this year. People are pointing to Cavan's relegation but are flat out ignoring Dublin's relatively poor campaign.

Jim Gavin has gone and despite the Leinster results, Dublin have definitely regressed. McCaffrey is better than McDaid. Brogan is better than P Small. Connolly is better than Bugler. Philly is better than Byrne.

Meath had early goal chances against Dublin and didn't take them. They got hit with a sucker punch and the confidence completely left them. If Cavan get similar chances and, crucially, take them, then we're taking this 2020 Dublin team into unknown territory.

Look. . .a LOT has to go right for Cavan and a LOT has to go wrong for Dublin, but if it were Donegal heading up to Croke Park tomorrow, you'd be laughed all the way back to Letterkenny if you asked for 16/1 odds.

I think the match-ups are as close to perfect as they would be for any team facing Dublin. Faulkner on Con, Clarke on Fenton, Galligan on Mccarthy, Madden on Cooper. Brady on Kilkenny. McLoughlin on Scully. McKiernan on J Small. These are far closer matchups IMO than anyone in Leinster has put to Dublin. And if some of them are won by Cavan then who knows.

I am 100% certain we've the better manager too BTW.

We were longer than 16/1 to win Ulster. We went and won it. The rest of the country doesn't believe in us and that's perfectly understandable. But it also doesn't matter one iota. . .We Believe!

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4561 - 04/12/2020 14:26:26    2318214

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Bigger shock than"thatscene in the crying game"

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 2789 - 04/12/2020 14:51:14    2318223

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Replying To cavanman47:  "The funny thing is, if it were to happen, when people review it they'll say the signs were there!

Dublin's league form wasn't good this year. People are pointing to Cavan's relegation but are flat out ignoring Dublin's relatively poor campaign.

Jim Gavin has gone and despite the Leinster results, Dublin have definitely regressed. McCaffrey is better than McDaid. Brogan is better than P Small. Connolly is better than Bugler. Philly is better than Byrne.

Meath had early goal chances against Dublin and didn't take them. They got hit with a sucker punch and the confidence completely left them. If Cavan get similar chances and, crucially, take them, then we're taking this 2020 Dublin team into unknown territory.

Look. . .a LOT has to go right for Cavan and a LOT has to go wrong for Dublin, but if it were Donegal heading up to Croke Park tomorrow, you'd be laughed all the way back to Letterkenny if you asked for 16/1 odds.

I think the match-ups are as close to perfect as they would be for any team facing Dublin. Faulkner on Con, Clarke on Fenton, Galligan on Mccarthy, Madden on Cooper. Brady on Kilkenny. McLoughlin on Scully. McKiernan on J Small. These are far closer matchups IMO than anyone in Leinster has put to Dublin. And if some of them are won by Cavan then who knows.

I am 100% certain we've the better manager too BTW.

We were longer than 16/1 to win Ulster. We went and won it. The rest of the country doesn't believe in us and that's perfectly understandable. But it also doesn't matter one iota. . .We Believe!"
Can't believe Royaldunne is at this multiple username craic now.

Greenfield (Meath) - Posts: 457 - 04/12/2020 14:51:43    2318224

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Replying To cavanman47:  "The funny thing is, if it were to happen, when people review it they'll say the signs were there!

Dublin's league form wasn't good this year. People are pointing to Cavan's relegation but are flat out ignoring Dublin's relatively poor campaign.

Jim Gavin has gone and despite the Leinster results, Dublin have definitely regressed. McCaffrey is better than McDaid. Brogan is better than P Small. Connolly is better than Bugler. Philly is better than Byrne.

Meath had early goal chances against Dublin and didn't take them. They got hit with a sucker punch and the confidence completely left them. If Cavan get similar chances and, crucially, take them, then we're taking this 2020 Dublin team into unknown territory.

Look. . .a LOT has to go right for Cavan and a LOT has to go wrong for Dublin, but if it were Donegal heading up to Croke Park tomorrow, you'd be laughed all the way back to Letterkenny if you asked for 16/1 odds.

I think the match-ups are as close to perfect as they would be for any team facing Dublin. Faulkner on Con, Clarke on Fenton, Galligan on Mccarthy, Madden on Cooper. Brady on Kilkenny. McLoughlin on Scully. McKiernan on J Small. These are far closer matchups IMO than anyone in Leinster has put to Dublin. And if some of them are won by Cavan then who knows.

I am 100% certain we've the better manager too BTW.

We were longer than 16/1 to win Ulster. We went and won it. The rest of the country doesn't believe in us and that's perfectly understandable. But it also doesn't matter one iota. . .We Believe!"
LOL.

The matchups are nowhere near close or perfect my friend.

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 3963 - 04/12/2020 15:09:19    2318233

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Bigger shock than"thatscene in the crying game""
let's hope Dublin don't make a b*lls of it then .

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1819 - 04/12/2020 16:00:56    2318243

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Maybe Antrim beating Offaly in 89 together with Clare beating Kerry in 92!

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1223 - 04/12/2020 16:28:27    2318254

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Replying To daytona11:  "LOL.

The matchups are nowhere near close or perfect my friend."
In fairness actually think Cavan match up to Dublin very very well in a good few areas however they don't have enough, Dublin have so many weapons that you put out one fire and another two pop up the other end of the pitch.

But I do think Cavan have the type of players to deal with a lot of Dublin's biggest threats and more to the point - hurt those threats the other way. But it'll be a 3 point salvo from someone like Mick Fitzsimons somehow that'll win the day, always is with the Dubs when you think you have them cornered.

JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1230 - 04/12/2020 16:46:16    2318257

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Dublin still won the 2 League games after lockdown. They looked better against Galway then Meath. The early stages of of the league they weren't great, but that's 9 months ago

I think Cavan will perform better then Meath, better keeper and midfield but, Dublin scoring an average of 20 pts a game. I don't think Cavan have the firepower to match that.
But give it their all is a all you can ask

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FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2415 - 04/12/2020 16:48:39    2318258

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Replying To Bon:  "I think it would single handledy be the biggest shock in GAA history. Dublin as defending 5 in a row champions hold all the aces. No other shock comes near what it could potentially be."
Dublin will win by20 pts

mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1393 - 04/12/2020 17:24:03    2318262

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Waterford footballers beating Kerry in the great year of 1957.

Ollie2 (Louth) - Posts: 482 - 04/12/2020 17:25:08    2318264

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Replying To Bon:  "I think it would single handledy be the biggest shock in GAA history. Dublin as defending 5 in a row champions hold all the aces. No other shock comes near what it could potentially be."
Definitely would be the biggest shock.

Antrim had a really good hurling team in the late 80's and early 90's so not a massive surprise they beat Offaly, who liked being underdogs back then, not heavy favourites.

Kerry were going through their worst phase in modern times, so not a massive surprise they lost to another Munster team besides Cork in that spell.

Kerry were bound to put in a one off brilliant performance in the Munster Hurling Championship after so many decades without a win and Waterford were relatively weak in the 90's.

How Cavan can get even to within 9 points of this Dublin team is totally unthinkable

eoghan6688 (Galway) - Posts: 151 - 04/12/2020 17:36:04    2318267

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As shocking a result as when Mr. Burgess and Pat Mustard were off on their rounds.

RadioactiveTan (UK) - Posts: 18 - 04/12/2020 17:39:15    2318268

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For what it's worth here are the teams from the U-21 semi in 2014 that we narrowly and controversially lost.

The matchups were pretty even that day and some of our players have no reason to fear their direct opponents.

Dublin: Lorcan Molloy (St Anne's); Ross McGowan (Kilmacud Crokes), David Byrne (Nh Olaf), Robbie McDaid (Ballyboden St Enda's); Eric Lowndes (St Peregrine's), Johnny Small (Ballymun Kickhams), Jack McCaffrey (Clontarf); Paddy O'Higgins (Raheny), Stephen Cunningham (St Sylvester's); Niall Scully (Templeogue Synge St), Shane Carthy (Nh Mearnóg), Paul Mannion (Kilmacud Crokes); Conor McHugh (Na Fianna), Michael Deegan (Donaghmore Ashbourne), Cormac Costello (Whitehall Colmcille).

CAVAN: J Farrelly; B Fortune, K Clarke, P Faulkner; G Smith, C Moynagh, C Brady; L Buchanan, M Argue; P Graham, E Flanagan, A Watson; D McVetty, K Bouchier, J Dillon.


Just for some perspective and I'm not saying we'll win as some posters seem intent on reading Cavan posts as.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 11872 - 04/12/2020 17:39:22    2318269

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"Donegal by whatever they want"

"Donegal will win this pulling up"

"He (McMenamin) won't be needed on Sunday but he will for the semi final"

"Cavan haven't a hope in hell of beating this Donegal team"

"End of the road for Cavan"

"Let's face it, Cavan are lucky to even be in the final"



Just a small sample of what was written on this message board 2 weeks ago. Keep it coming lads!

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4561 - 04/12/2020 18:00:19    2318274

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Replying To cavanman47:  ""Donegal by whatever they want"

"Donegal will win this pulling up"

"He (McMenamin) won't be needed on Sunday but he will for the semi final"

"Cavan haven't a hope in hell of beating this Donegal team"

"End of the road for Cavan"

"Let's face it, Cavan are lucky to even be in the final"



Just a small sample of what was written on this message board 2 weeks ago. Keep it coming lads!"
Donegal are not Dublin.

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 757 - 04/12/2020 18:04:04    2318275

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