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Blue tinted glasses? Here's the Irish Examiner's picks. . link The same as mine except Mullin for Keegan and EOD for Small (both of whom I said would be unlucky to miss out). cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 09/12/2020 17:11:11 2320758 Link 9 |
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A few years ago Tipperary won a Div 3 National League Final. Sweeney scored 2-5, Quinlivan got 0-3. Quinlivan got Man of the Match. There has always been a media bias towards Quinlivan over Sweeney but surely the semi final has put this to bed. Sweeney was outstanding, Quinlivan was ok. Sweeney gets the All Star.
FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 564 - 09/12/2020 17:23:46 2320764 Link 0 |
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No Paddy Durcan. Surly thats an oversight.
theblackcard (Mayo) - Posts: 47 - 09/12/2020 17:31:19 2320767 Link 0 |
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Agree, but full back is not is natural position. I think it worth a punt playing him at half back along with McLaughlin and Durcan.
theblackcard (Mayo) - Posts: 47 - 09/12/2020 17:32:56 2320768 Link 0 |
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Theres a game to go Fenton is nailed on. Ruane has a solid game in the final he's an automatic pick. Therefore no room for Gallign who was anonymous on the biggest stage. brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 09/12/2020 17:53:08 2320782 Link 10 |
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He wasn't anonymous tho. No matter how many times you say it. He scored one of the points of the game and was denied a clear penalty. He caused Dublin problems - and they saw fit to double mark him. The only man they've done that to this year. It was, admittedly, his worst of the 5 games, given that he was man of the match twice, and played thru the first 3 rounds with an injury. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 09/12/2020 19:33:53 2320820 Link 10 |
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He's definitely back there to plug a gap at the moment and it is a difficult position for someone used to attacking much more. The fact that Durcan and McLaughlin are so effective at getting up the pitch at speed, means I'd doubt we'll see him out there.
WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2043 - 09/12/2020 23:44:06 2320921 Link 0 |
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He wasn't anonymous tho. No matter how many times you say it. He scored one of the points of the game and was denied a clear penalty. He caused Dublin problems - and they saw fit to double mark him. The only man they've done that to this year. It was, admittedly, his worst of the 5 games, given that he was man of the match twice, and played thru the first 3 rounds with an injury."]Admittedly he was anonymous. As i say all stars find ways around double marking, being pulled and dragged out off. Galligan didn't, therefore no all star. Look back on the last several years 12-13 spots go to the team getting to the final and 2-3 to the semi finalists and possibly 1 outlier. Cavan - Raymond Galligan Tipp - Conor Sweeney I'm not saying Thomas won't get one, he more than likely will but for me he doesn't fit the bracket. As i said look at the kerry player (Stephen O'Brien i believe) last year, player of the year contender going into the final and don't think he even got nominated for an all star!! brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 10/12/2020 09:42:53 2320966 Link 9 |
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I think All-Stars if picked today that Ray Galligan would get the GK but it's seriously tight. If Cluxton again keeps a clean sheet in the final and doesn't concede a goal at all in this years championship then he is probably nailed on to take the All-Star overall. daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 10/12/2020 10:14:08 2320973 Link 1 |
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I think John Small just ahead at the moment. Whoever does better in final will get one.
winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 509 - 10/12/2020 13:55:35 2321038 Link 0 |
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I felt sweeney only started to be outstanding when mayo put the sub defender on him, and also when the game was over. Id rate quinlivan as a superior player personally. Sweeney and galligan will get all stars though - cavan and tipp will need to be represented. Maher could sneak in at 6 too, depending on the final. Id have thought barrett would be ahead of keegan for an all star. HardCase (USA) - Posts: 64 - 10/12/2020 14:20:02 2321047 Link 0 |
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I thought Quinlivan played really well but missed his goal chance. He certainly had the better of Keegan who fouled him several times. Quinlivan is a different player to Sweeney and can be a provider as well as a finisher. I feel however this year that Sweeney will get the all-star.
winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 509 - 10/12/2020 22:31:15 2321228 Link 0 |
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What I'd go with based on games up to the final: Kerry15 (Kerry) - Posts: 958 - 11/12/2020 18:35:34 2321422 Link 0 |
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He has little to do every year. That's why he has only got one All Star since he stopped taking frees. Assuming Clarke's kickout gets dismantled again in final it's between Cluxton and Galligan. Hope the Cavan man gets it.
FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 564 - 11/12/2020 22:16:51 2321481 Link 4 |
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If a Donegal man is getting an All Star at half forward it would be Michael Langan in my opinion. Was the star man against Tyrone.
SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 379 - 14/12/2020 11:07:49 2322239 Link 1 |
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I love it when new hires perform more prominently than the veterans for some reason. It seems so satisfying. KaitlynnDuff (Longford) - Posts: 17 - 14/12/2020 12:46:10 2322272 Link 0 |
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Little to do? He's probably setup as many scoring moves with pinpoint passing accuracy than any other player on the team. Penalty save in the final last year, word class finger tip save I think from Sean O'Shea. He also setup Jack McCaffrey's goal. In my estimation Cluxton was responsible for a 3 goal swing against Kerry. He's been rock solid in the championship so far with some top saves, very solid under the high ball and top class distribution.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 14/12/2020 16:42:41 2322353 Link 9 |
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They would have to to do a 7 episode installment of Laochra Gael.
TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 14/12/2020 16:54:29 2322355 Link 1 |
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Can't disagree with you on Cluxton. A true champion is the person that can come back from defeat. Also to err is human but to learn from those mistakes makes the real champion. Cluxton has made as many mistakes as most keepers but always learns from it. He is also mentally tough. In 2016 Kerry broke his kickout strategy before half time which was planned expertly by Fitzmaurice beforehand. Cluxton got rattled and was personally responsible for 2 goals and 2 points before half time. Game over Cluxton gone. Not in your dreams. 2nd half and Cluxton back as brash dictating again. At half time in that game some Dublin fans were throwing abuse at Cluxton at half time but I'm sure they were nt afterwards. He gave a masterclass again afterwards. Without doubt he is the greatest goalkeeper I have seen. However that does nt mean he l get an all star. If he has a quiet final he prob won't but that won't determine his place in the history of the gaa.
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3676 - 14/12/2020 20:21:20 2322431 Link 0 |
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You're right Mick. The problem is that, by and large, forwards are judged by the amount of scores they get and goalkeepers by the amount of saves they make. Dermot Connolly once said of Bernard Brogan that he was the best tackler on the Dublin team. It went unnoticed by many and had he not consistently scored for Dublin then he probably wouldn't have 4 all-stars as forwards are supposed to score and everything else goes unnoticed. Scully is a crucial player for Dublin. He has 3 AIs, 4 Leinsters and 1 NFL to his name. He's a ball carrier, breaks play up and starts moves. He has never won an all-star. He was one of only 2 Dublin players not nominated last year, the other being Cooper, who was sent off. Again forwards are supposed to score not run back and turn ball over on their own 45. Cluxton has revolutionised the goalkeeping game. He's an extra half-back with his ridiculous distribution accuracy, he's extra full back, solid under the high ball and always available for a relief pass. If another keeper gets a 50% distribution rate over a season but pulls off 3 saves over a semi and final while Cluxton has a 90% distribution rate but makes one save, then the other keeper will get the all-star. Keepers aren't supposed to nonchalantly kick 50 yard passes into the arms of half forwards. It's taken for granted now with Cluxton, a quirk of his game not something that would add much weight now for a goalkeeping all-star award. The all stars are a bit strange like that. The credentials for winning one are still stuck in the 70s and 80s I think.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 14/12/2020 23:34:38 2322501 Link 8 |