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Freshen Up Cork Hurling Panel And Set Up.

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It is very easy to point the finger and play the blame game as a Cork supporter and a hurler on the ditch . Intercounty players and management alike have their lives and time absorbed and the commitment they give to represent their county cannot be questioned .

It is fair to say that there is a calling now to try something different and freshen things up . There are plenty of promising hurlers in Cork that deserve their chance to showcase their talents .

Suggested Management Team:
Fergal Condon
Fergal Ryan
Richie Kelleher
Barry Egan


Suggested players to get their chance :
Patrick Collins
David Lowney
Colm Barry
Adam O Donovan
James Carroll
Ger Millerick
Daniel Meaney
Tadgh Deasy
Brian Roche
Alan Connolly
Simon Kennifick

Farnarebel (Cork) - Posts: 40 - 23/11/2020 18:56:44    2314204

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Replying To Farnarebel:  "It is very easy to point the finger and play the blame game as a Cork supporter and a hurler on the ditch . Intercounty players and management alike have their lives and time absorbed and the commitment they give to represent their county cannot be questioned .

It is fair to say that there is a calling now to try something different and freshen things up . There are plenty of promising hurlers in Cork that deserve their chance to showcase their talents .

Suggested Management Team:
Fergal Condon
Fergal Ryan
Richie Kelleher
Barry Egan


Suggested players to get their chance :
Patrick Collins
David Lowney
Colm Barry
Adam O Donovan
James Carroll
Ger Millerick
Daniel Meaney
Tadgh Deasy
Brian Roche
Alan Connolly
Simon Kennifick"
Would say that these players will get a runout! Brian Trumbull also! We are a ways behind top teams in the way of coaching, and we need new blood. Declan Dalton, Mark Coleman were standouts against tipp, Robbie Flynn and a few others are good!In saying that, honestly Tipp should have won by more, as they hit a plethora of wides.The Cork county championship was poor standard, and Blackrock were very lucky to beat UCC In the semifinal! Cork haven't won since 2005 which is an eternity for Cork hurling!

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 669 - 24/11/2020 01:31:37    2314431

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Replying To Farnarebel:  "It is very easy to point the finger and play the blame game as a Cork supporter and a hurler on the ditch . Intercounty players and management alike have their lives and time absorbed and the commitment they give to represent their county cannot be questioned .

It is fair to say that there is a calling now to try something different and freshen things up . There are plenty of promising hurlers in Cork that deserve their chance to showcase their talents .

Suggested Management Team:
Fergal Condon
Fergal Ryan
Richie Kelleher
Barry Egan


Suggested players to get their chance :
Patrick Collins
David Lowney
Colm Barry
Adam O Donovan
James Carroll
Ger Millerick
Daniel Meaney
Tadgh Deasy
Brian Roche
Alan Connolly
Simon Kennifick"
How about this team? Patrick Collins; Sean O' Donoghue, Colm Spillane, Damian Cahalane, Mark Coleman, Rob Downey, Tim O' Mahony, Darragh Fitsgibbon, Robbie O' Flynn, Seamus Harnedy, Shane Kingston, Tadhg Deasy, Pat Horgan, Declan Dalton, Alan Connolly. Continue playing Mark Coleman as sweeper. Subs; Brian Tu rnbull, Conor O' Callaghan, Luke Meade, Sean O Leary Hayes, Anthony Nash

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 669 - 24/11/2020 02:06:20    2314434

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Replying To Farnarebel:  "It is very easy to point the finger and play the blame game as a Cork supporter and a hurler on the ditch . Intercounty players and management alike have their lives and time absorbed and the commitment they give to represent their county cannot be questioned .

It is fair to say that there is a calling now to try something different and freshen things up . There are plenty of promising hurlers in Cork that deserve their chance to showcase their talents .

Suggested Management Team:
Fergal Condon
Fergal Ryan
Richie Kelleher
Barry Egan


Suggested players to get their chance :
Patrick Collins
David Lowney
Colm Barry
Adam O Donovan
James Carroll
Ger Millerick
Daniel Meaney
Tadgh Deasy
Brian Roche
Alan Connolly
Simon Kennifick"
Pat Horgan and Seamus Harnedy won't be around forever. Shame that Hoggy one of our best ever players may never win an all Ireland! His stick work commitment, and skill is reminiscent of Ring! Great player. Alan Cadogan hopefully will return to the mix. On his day is a good corner forward, and a ball winner. Personally some other Rockies players are impressive. Gary Norberg and Niall Cashman for example....as well as the others mentioned!

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 669 - 24/11/2020 02:17:45    2314435

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Replying To Rockies:  "How about this team? Patrick Collins; Sean O' Donoghue, Colm Spillane, Damian Cahalane, Mark Coleman, Rob Downey, Tim O' Mahony, Darragh Fitsgibbon, Robbie O' Flynn, Seamus Harnedy, Shane Kingston, Tadhg Deasy, Pat Horgan, Declan Dalton, Alan Connolly. Continue playing Mark Coleman as sweeper. Subs; Brian Tu rnbull, Conor O' Callaghan, Luke Meade, Sean O Leary Hayes, Anthony Nash"
As an outsider that team wouldn't be the one I'd pick for Cork. Sean O Donoghue, Cahalane and O Mahoney as half the backs? No way. Thats too much bad decision making for me. Cahalane is a big athletic guy but he's been tried and tried again. His decision making is poor,the amount of hospital passes he gives. The centre back Cashman from Blackrock is a guy id play centre back. That guy is tough and cute on the ball,something I grew up thinking every Cork hurler was supposed to be. O Donoghue can make it but Spillane needs to go other corner and then you need a new fullback.
Fitzgibbon,Coleman and Cooper are nailed on for me...but Fitzgibbon and Coleman are lightweights and you couldn't afford another 2 lightweights in the forwards. Deasy deserves a shot...Dalton, Harnedy then Alan Cadogan and Horgan and then one big man..

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1572 - 24/11/2020 09:53:44    2314485

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Replying To bloodyban:  "As an outsider that team wouldn't be the one I'd pick for Cork. Sean O Donoghue, Cahalane and O Mahoney as half the backs? No way. Thats too much bad decision making for me. Cahalane is a big athletic guy but he's been tried and tried again. His decision making is poor,the amount of hospital passes he gives. The centre back Cashman from Blackrock is a guy id play centre back. That guy is tough and cute on the ball,something I grew up thinking every Cork hurler was supposed to be. O Donoghue can make it but Spillane needs to go other corner and then you need a new fullback.
Fitzgibbon,Coleman and Cooper are nailed on for me...but Fitzgibbon and Coleman are lightweights and you couldn't afford another 2 lightweights in the forwards. Deasy deserves a shot...Dalton, Harnedy then Alan Cadogan and Horgan and then one big man.."
Rob Downey could move to full back and Niall Cashman be tried at center or half back! Cashman is 25 and hasn't been tried for Cork yet. Certainly a good hurler and starred for Blackrock.

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 669 - 24/11/2020 10:57:49    2314525

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Replying To Rockies:  "Would say that these players will get a runout! Brian Trumbull also! We are a ways behind top teams in the way of coaching, and we need new blood. Declan Dalton, Mark Coleman were standouts against tipp, Robbie Flynn and a few others are good!In saying that, honestly Tipp should have won by more, as they hit a plethora of wides.The Cork county championship was poor standard, and Blackrock were very lucky to beat UCC In the semifinal! Cork haven't won since 2005 which is an eternity for Cork hurling!"
For Cork hurling to get back to where it should be the hurler on the ditch has a few suggestions :

1. For the standard of Cork hurling to improve there needs to be a willingness amongst club players that have ambitions to play for Cork or at Senior level to represent their divisions. With the clubs out there , there is no reason why Muskerry, Avondhu , Seandun, Carrigdhoun , Carbery cannot field teams at minor , u20 and senior level in the County Championship . No matter what sport you play good players have to be surrounded by good players in order to become better . Duhallow are evidence of how rewarding it can be from their underage exploits and Imokilly at senior level with clubs from both divisions reaping the rewards from it .

2. Its plain and simple Cork dont score enough goals. Whatever way you look at it thats the way it has been for years . Corks next management team need to address this and identify the best forwards on the county that are capable and willing to take on defenders and go for the juggler. Kilkennys 2 goals in 2 minutes in the Leinster Final epitomizes their philosophy. Galway, Limerick and Tipp are goal getters thats the difference.

3. Cork have too many "nice" hurlers . You dont need 15 nice hurlers to win you a match . A few physical grafters are needed to win dirty ball and to get Cork over the line . When games are in the melting pot Cork are not winning these battles anymore . There are plenty of hurlers around the county that have the drive and venom to solve this .

Farnarebel (Cork) - Posts: 40 - 24/11/2020 16:45:40    2314791

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Replying To Rockies:  "Rob Downey could move to full back and Niall Cashman be tried at center or half back! Cashman is 25 and hasn't been tried for Cork yet. Certainly a good hurler and starred for Blackrock."
I wont comment on the players ye mentioned lads but I will say that Cork new to freshen things up . Its fair to say those players have had their time with Cork and its now time for the next crop of players to showcase their talents.

12 new players and a fresh management team need to be in place if Cork are to move forward .

Farnarebel (Cork) - Posts: 40 - 24/11/2020 16:51:27    2314796

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Replying To Rockies:  "Rob Downey could move to full back and Niall Cashman be tried at center or half back! Cashman is 25 and hasn't been tried for Cork yet. Certainly a good hurler and starred for Blackrock."
I wont comment on the players ye mentioned lads but I will say that Cork new to freshen things up . Its fair to say those players have had their time with Cork and its now time for the next crop of players to showcase their talents.

12 new players and a fresh management team need to be in place if Cork are to move forward .

Farnarebel (Cork) - Posts: 40 - 24/11/2020 16:51:41    2314797

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wheres Shane O Regan from Watergrasshill, he looked an up and coming player, Hes gone off the radar completley

preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 571 - 24/11/2020 21:57:32    2315011

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Replying To preddan:  "wheres Shane O Regan from Watergrasshill, he looked an up and coming player, Hes gone off the radar completley"
He hasnt proving himself at senior level with imokilly yet he needs more time.

Farnarebel (Cork) - Posts: 40 - 25/11/2020 00:25:12    2315072

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Either way, Cork are in for rough sledding for a few years. We did have our glory years! I get as much enjoyment Looking forward to and watching upcoming semifinals. Especially Galway vs Limerick.. slightly side with Galway here. Enjoy the games and congratulations to all the players!

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 669 - 26/11/2020 16:09:15    2315657

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Replying To Rockies:  "Either way, Cork are in for rough sledding for a few years. We did have our glory years! I get as much enjoyment Looking forward to and watching upcoming semifinals. Especially Galway vs Limerick.. slightly side with Galway here. Enjoy the games and congratulations to all the players!"
We need wholesale changes to both management setups and panels. We can't continue to go with the same old when they have not delivered over and over again.

We need more power and brutality than this trippy happy nice hurler stuff. Move out the deadwood and freshen the whole lot up.

You look at limerick, Galway, Tipp and Kllkenny they add 2 or 3 new players every year to the starting 15. We could pick the starting for the last 8/9 years.

Rebel89 (Cork) - Posts: 3 - 09/12/2020 16:17:40    2320725

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Replying To Rockies:  "Rob Downey could move to full back and Niall Cashman be tried at center or half back! Cashman is 25 and hasn't been tried for Cork yet. Certainly a good hurler and starred for Blackrock."
Is he from Brohan/Cashman family background. If he is he did get it off the trees. I saw Jimmy Brohan and of course Tom and Jim Cashman, his nephews, as well a younger Cashman - David I think was his name - all fine hurlers

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 3272 - 09/12/2020 18:27:45    2320795

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Replying To Farnarebel:  "He hasnt proving himself at senior level with imokilly yet he needs more time."
How have Cork fallen back in recent years. Last title in 2005, 15 years ago? Hard to know why a proud county has slipped behind the rest.

MicktheMiller (Offaly) - Posts: 401 - 09/12/2020 18:44:09    2320806

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Replying To Rockies:  "How about this team? Patrick Collins; Sean O' Donoghue, Colm Spillane, Damian Cahalane, Mark Coleman, Rob Downey, Tim O' Mahony, Darragh Fitsgibbon, Robbie O' Flynn, Seamus Harnedy, Shane Kingston, Tadhg Deasy, Pat Horgan, Declan Dalton, Alan Connolly. Continue playing Mark Coleman as sweeper. Subs; Brian Tu rnbull, Conor O' Callaghan, Luke Meade, Sean O Leary Hayes, Anthony Nash"
Alan Connolly as a starter? Did he not get cleaned out by an 18 year full back from Kerry in that Munster under 20 game in Tralee this year.

Big step up to Inter County from club, would have to see more of him at county level to prove a starting place.

He has age on his side though!

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 308 - 09/12/2020 23:47:40    2320925

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