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roscommon v galway supposed to be on SKY.
anyone know what channel on SKY. have they invented yet another channel ?

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5447 - 04/07/2021 14:24:18    2355990

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "The issue with the Sky deal at the time was that the GAA hierarchy continually denied they would do a deal with Sky.

In fact they said they would never do a deal with Sky.

This is what the GAA President at the time said:

"The GAA can never in conscience decide to sell television rights to any media provider who will not be widely available throughout the country and which will not be national in character. We are not going to sell our people down the river for money"

The rest is history."
Pretty clear and damning reading you cannot argue with that statement almost as hollow as "We all in this together"

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4732 - 04/07/2021 14:32:26    2355991

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Replying To s goldrick:  "roscommon v galway supposed to be on SKY.
anyone know what channel on SKY. have they invented yet another channel ?"
ignore this

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5447 - 04/07/2021 14:35:58    2355992

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Replying To s goldrick:  "roscommon v galway supposed to be on SKY.
anyone know what channel on SKY. have they invented yet another channel ?"
It's on RTÉ not Sky.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 5691 - 04/07/2021 14:40:02    2355993

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Replying To Greengrass:  "
Replying To AfricanGael:  "The issue with the Sky deal at the time was that the GAA hierarchy continually denied they would do a deal with Sky.

In fact they said they would never do a deal with Sky.

This is what the GAA President at the time said:

"The GAA can never in conscience decide to sell television rights to any media provider who will not be widely available throughout the country and which will not be national in character. We are not going to sell our people down the river for money"

The rest is history."
Which President said that AfricanGael?"
In a way, it is a little surprising that the GAA hierarchy were taken aback by adverse reaction to their Sky deal. After all, for twenty years the organization's leadership had repeated time-and-again that it would never do a deal with Sky.

These statements were unequivocal and continued right up to the time when the deal was made.

Sometimes they were made at the GAA's Annual Congress, like when the then President of the GAA, Jack Boothman, said:

'The GAA can never in conscience decide to sell television rights to any media provider who will not be widely available throughout the country and which will not be national in character. We are not going to sell our people down the river for money.'

GAA Presidents from the 1990s up to Christy Cooney (2009-12) repeated this commitment not to sell the exclusive rights to GAA matches to Sky.


Courtesy Historyhub.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1946 - 04/07/2021 14:49:08    2355996

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Replying To bloodyban:  "My father is over 70, a farmer and prefers watching hurling on Sky Sports to RTE. I think you are doing down the elderly and rural and slightly patronising. It's not 1980. The vast majority have access to Sky if they want it and the elderly have more money than most of us. To say they wouldn't know how to get Sky is just silliness. And I agree with posters.. the only thing that let's down Sky is Nicky English and to be fair Anthony Nash was desperate aswell. He sounded like a fascinated kid, not an 'expert'. He didn't really give any insight whatsoever"
I'd agree and said it before regarding Nicky. However the whole thing is desperate. Ollie canning didn't even know they were retaining the yellow sliothar. The whole lot is a joke and the quality is getting worse instead of better

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 3122 - 04/07/2021 14:52:58    2355998

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "
Replying To Greengrass:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "The issue with the Sky deal at the time was that the GAA hierarchy continually denied they would do a deal with Sky.

In fact they said they would never do a deal with Sky.

This is what the GAA President at the time said:

"The GAA can never in conscience decide to sell television rights to any media provider who will not be widely available throughout the country and which will not be national in character. We are not going to sell our people down the river for money"

The rest is history."
Which President said that AfricanGael?"
In a way, it is a little surprising that the GAA hierarchy were taken aback by adverse reaction to their Sky deal. After all, for twenty years the organization's leadership had repeated time-and-again that it would never do a deal with Sky.

These statements were unequivocal and continued right up to the time when the deal was made.

Sometimes they were made at the GAA's Annual Congress, like when the then President of the GAA, Jack Boothman, said:

'The GAA can never in conscience decide to sell television rights to any media provider who will not be widely available throughout the country and which will not be national in character. We are not going to sell our people down the river for money.'

GAA Presidents from the 1990s up to Christy Cooney (2009-12) repeated this commitment not to sell the exclusive rights to GAA matches to Sky.


Courtesy Historyhub."]Thanks AfricanGael. I got that paper. It looks to be a very good site.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 5691 - 04/07/2021 15:21:19    2356010

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Replying To jimski:  "Sky would never have accepted non-exclusive rights for live games. Virtually all the live sport they cover is exclusive."
Sky accepted non exclusive rights to the Republic of Ireland international competitive games

johnocarroll17 (Limerick) - Posts: 302 - 04/07/2021 18:13:40    2356110

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Replying To johnocarroll17:  "Sky accepted non exclusive rights to the Republic of Ireland international competitive games"
They had no choice. Our competitive games in World Cup and Euros have to be free to air on terrestrial TV - they are one of a number of events that are ring-fenced - Six Nations among the others. Our friendly soccer games and the recent Nations Cup games for example aren't available on RTE.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/government-publishes-list-of-protected-events-1.430156

jimski (Kildare) - Posts: 368 - 04/07/2021 18:35:10    2356127

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We are talking here about EXTRA GAA games on TV.

To those here who think that RTE should be the only provider, would you be happy to accept less games shown then? Because that's what would happen.

Also, whilst I have no reason to doubt that Jack Boothman was a fantastic GAA man, his opinions on TV rights expressed in 1994 or thereabouts, are quite frankly irrelevant in 2021.

James Nowlan (the man who Nowlan Park is named after) was the longest serving President of the GAA at 20 years. He presided over the introduction of the Ban in 1905. In hindsight, a ridiculous rule which was to last until 1971.

Should we return to the days of the Ban, just because a GAA president endorsed that view?

Just because a GAA president expressed a certain view, or endorsed a certain policy, does not mean they were correct regardless of how many people they may have had in agreement with them.

Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 305 - 04/07/2021 21:34:51    2356266

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Replying To Onfor15:  "We are talking here about EXTRA GAA games on TV.

To those here who think that RTE should be the only provider, would you be happy to accept less games shown then? Because that's what would happen.

Also, whilst I have no reason to doubt that Jack Boothman was a fantastic GAA man, his opinions on TV rights expressed in 1994 or thereabouts, are quite frankly irrelevant in 2021.

James Nowlan (the man who Nowlan Park is named after) was the longest serving President of the GAA at 20 years. He presided over the introduction of the Ban in 1905. In hindsight, a ridiculous rule which was to last until 1971.

Should we return to the days of the Ban, just because a GAA president endorsed that view?

Just because a GAA president expressed a certain view, or endorsed a certain policy, does not mean they were correct regardless of how many people they may have had in agreement with them."
Sky and these pay per game live streams are now the order of the day ..RTE very poor amount of coverage..lucky I have Sky bur not everyone has it I know and these streams aren't for everyone either...typical Ireland when something becomes popular the prices rise. €8 for Offaly Kildare game today..

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 866 - 05/07/2021 00:18:45    2356337

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "Sky and these pay per game live streams are now the order of the day ..RTE very poor amount of coverage..lucky I have Sky bur not everyone has it I know and these streams aren't for everyone either...typical Ireland when something becomes popular the prices rise. €8 for Offaly Kildare game today.."
Season pass on GAAGO costs €25. For that, you get all National League and Championship games that weren't on TV. Amazing value.

Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 305 - 05/07/2021 10:18:43    2356389

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The caption reads, "Sky sports GAA" were left red faced after a graphic during the Galway v Dublin game suggested that two Dublin players involved in a substitution were of English and Belgian nationality.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2470 - 05/07/2021 10:36:11    2356402

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Replying To Onfor15:  "Season pass on GAAGO costs €25. For that, you get all National League and Championship games that weren't on TV. Amazing value."
Yeah, but the quality is atrocious

ConnollyDub (Dublin) - Posts: 1992 - 05/07/2021 10:54:08    2356417

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Replying To Onfor15:  "We are talking here about EXTRA GAA games on TV.

To those here who think that RTE should be the only provider, would you be happy to accept less games shown then? Because that's what would happen.

Also, whilst I have no reason to doubt that Jack Boothman was a fantastic GAA man, his opinions on TV rights expressed in 1994 or thereabouts, are quite frankly irrelevant in 2021.

James Nowlan (the man who Nowlan Park is named after) was the longest serving President of the GAA at 20 years. He presided over the introduction of the Ban in 1905. In hindsight, a ridiculous rule which was to last until 1971.

Should we return to the days of the Ban, just because a GAA president endorsed that view?

Just because a GAA president expressed a certain view, or endorsed a certain policy, does not mean they were correct regardless of how many people they may have had in agreement with them."
First of all there is a big difference between an "opinion" and a commitment, a huge difference.

In any case the point isn't about extra games, nobody questions that.

You make a big jump from 1994 to 2021, neither year is relevant but it helps your narrative.

If you read the article it's clear that pledges were made by a number of presidents right up until 2012, just two years before the deal was done that exclusive rights to GAA matches would not be sold to Sky.

The issue isn't that the rights were sold, the issue is that the GAA hierarchy never kept their word.

Your mention of the ban would only be relevant had the GAA president at the time continually pledged not to bring in a ban and then done the exact opposite.

Who needs Sky when you can and have a service like GAAGO which is owned jointly by the GAA and RTE ?

Why line the likes of Rupert Murdoch's pockets or whoever owns Sky now when you could instead put money back into the GAA and the national broadcaster ?

Iptv is the way to go for a product like the GAA, watch what you want, when you want and wherever you want without having to buy a "package" and are possibly tied to a contract.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1946 - 05/07/2021 11:03:25    2356425

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Replying To Onfor15:  "Season pass on GAAGO costs €25. For that, you get all National League and Championship games that weren't on TV. Amazing value."
I got the GAAGO it would be valve for money if their streaming worked properly alot of games i have watched on GAAGO are constantly freezing and buffering. It's not my internet either because every other streaming website I use works fine.

DUALSUPPORT (Limerick) - Posts: 1038 - 05/07/2021 19:39:14    2356703

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RTE have yet another mouth watering match on Sunday… Mayo v Leitrim… They are totally obsessed with turkey shoots…!!!!

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 290 - 09/07/2021 19:19:58    2358131

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "RTE have yet another mouth watering match on Sunday… Mayo v Leitrim… They are totally obsessed with turkey shoots…!!!!"
And in a few weeks they will have another turkey shoot- the Leinster final!

johnocarroll17 (Limerick) - Posts: 302 - 09/07/2021 21:28:21    2358165

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Replying To DUALSUPPORT:  "I got the GAAGO it would be valve for money if their streaming worked properly alot of games i have watched on GAAGO are constantly freezing and buffering. It's not my internet either because every other streaming website I use works fine."
And the bloody camera work and commentary isn't great either.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1818 - 09/07/2021 21:57:44    2358178

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Replying To avonali:  "And the bloody camera work and commentary isn't great either."
I would like to know where do they get these commentators

johnocarroll17 (Limerick) - Posts: 302 - 09/07/2021 23:37:18    2358202

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