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Replying To Htaem: " Replying To lilypad: "[quote=supersub15: "No face masks = Delusions of Egoic Grandeur. / Thrumpalism." So the meath lads are Trump supporters?"
lilypad (Kildare) - Posts: 1363 - 05/10/2020 13:02:22
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Replying To Crinigan: "I went to one of the semi finals and in my opinion the pairc tailteann stewards were utterly clueless and untrained. It was farcical. I tried sitting with my small family and people kept gathering around me so I'd keep moving to maintain distance (I'm a frontline worker)... I had only gone to the match as I assumed the stewards would ensure that people were well spread out, it's a big stand so plenty of room to spread out. The stewards did nothing. Not only that but at the end we were all herded out together at same time through a narrow slip (to allow next crowd in). The stewards at this time were congregating together having a chat, no masks. It would be comical if it wasn't so serious.
There were clearly more than 200 at the final yesterday, almost no masks worn. O Rourke and Brolly can write all they want about how GAA doing everything they can and govt should allow suppporters in etc but the GAA GAA people from Meath to Tyrone are letting the country down and their communities down. That match was brilliantly broadcast on TG4 yesterday and Meath GAA did great job showing matches online but the crowds are an absolute catastrophe and are shameful." Absolutely correct. But you can just blame the stewards - something was seriously wrong with the organisation, where the seats not cordened off, JESUS the match was live on TV - it looked awful- the soccer people are having a right go at GAA this morning and rightly so - if we got to LEVEL 5, it is these scenes which will determine the minds of those in control - 'Are sure its a co final. lets forget that there is a pandemic!!!!!
In relation to Cork, that is individual people not the cork Co Board....
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I realize there is the thorny issue of the border to consider but you have to look at the likes of New Zealand, who have a similar population to us, island nation(s) etc and wonder how we could not have adopted a similar set of policies to them.
No messing around there. Inbound flights restricted, a proper lockdown, proper track and trace system and they have pretty much eradicated the virus, albeit with one small second wave scare.
To me, the government here have put their faith in a sort of whack-a-mole strategy which was always doomed to failure. This latest level 5 proposal seems too reactionary to me. There's no coherent strategy to it at all. The way we're going we're just going to be stuck in the cycles we've seen over the last few months for the foreseeable.
In saying all of the above, some of the general population need to take a good hard look at themselves. New Zealanders did the right thing, did their civic duty and as a result are cautiously back to some sort of normality. Maybe we're not as patriotic as we all claim to be. Bull*****ers who will sit on a high stool and sing the Fields of Athenry can't abide by a few simple rules to protect their country when it actually does come to the crunch.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 6951 - 05/10/2020 12:52:14 except New Zealand can control its borders far more and far easier than Ireland ever can. New Zealand is 4000km from its nearest neighbours. Everyone has to travel there by air.
Government did most things right here.
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3624 - 05/10/2020 13:32:32
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Replying To cuchulainn35: "Look any clown could count that there was more than 200 in Navan today, grand if social distancing but, all on top of each other in the stand - this is the kind of poor management and organisation which will have implications for the rest of the country. No one can honestly say that there was social distancing....
Then we tune into the Cork final - a fine big ground and its empty. Well done Cork, Meath need to do better!!" Yeah look after the part you live in. How's that goin for you lot??
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 05/10/2020 13:37:46
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Replying To Bon: "A goal to snatch a Championship title at the death??" Pay no attention to him. Jesus look at the basket case that's in the north. Almost 1 k cases in one day ffs. Won't be lectured to by anyone up there on anything Covid related
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 05/10/2020 13:39:32
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Replying To Lockjaw: "I realize there is the thorny issue of the border to consider but you have to look at the likes of New Zealand, who have a similar population to us, island nation(s) etc and wonder how we could not have adopted a similar set of policies to them.
No messing around there. Inbound flights restricted, a proper lockdown, proper track and trace system and they have pretty much eradicated the virus, albeit with one small second wave scare.
To me, the government here have put their faith in a sort of whack-a-mole strategy which was always doomed to failure. This latest level 5 proposal seems too reactionary to me. There's no coherent strategy to it at all. The way we're going we're just going to be stuck in the cycles we've seen over the last few months for the foreseeable.
In saying all of the above, some of the general population need to take a good hard look at themselves. New Zealanders did the right thing, did their civic duty and as a result are cautiously back to some sort of normality. Maybe we're not as patriotic as we all claim to be. Bull*****ers who will sit on a high stool and sing the Fields of Athenry can't abide by a few simple rules to protect their country when it actually does come to the crunch." Ha I like the whack-a-mole analogy and it is true.
The government introduced this 1-5 level strategy but within a month that seems to have been made redundant by NHEPT. This is highly frustrating for areas/counties who have been doing well, why should they be plunged into level 5 with the rest!
I know we have to take health advise seriously and the increase in numbers has been largely caused by carelessness which is a very hard pill to swallow for those who have been taking caution. But I would also like to see a little bit more accountability from NHEPT, who basically have the power to shut the country down at the minute.
Now I understand that we have to put people's health first and act accordingly, but I hope NHEPT and the goverment also strongly consider people's mental health when re-introducing a hard lockdown. Many people have been devastated economically and mentally by all of this (I know a few people myself in a bad way at the minute) and I fear for them in another hard lockdown.
Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 05/10/2020 13:41:14
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Replying To Saynothing: "Didn't see Cluxton sliding to the ground in 2011 to win ALL IRELAND." If it bothers you that much don't watch it.
Also after tiernan mcann falling to ground from a hair ruffle. Do u really think anyone in Tyrone can comment on a lads celebration??
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 05/10/2020 13:42:36
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Replying To KillingFields: "I realize there is the thorny issue of the border to consider but you have to look at the likes of New Zealand, who have a similar population to us, island nation(s) etc and wonder how we could not have adopted a similar set of policies to them.
No messing around there. Inbound flights restricted, a proper lockdown, proper track and trace system and they have pretty much eradicated the virus, albeit with one small second wave scare.
To me, the government here have put their faith in a sort of whack-a-mole strategy which was always doomed to failure. This latest level 5 proposal seems too reactionary to me. There's no coherent strategy to it at all. The way we're going we're just going to be stuck in the cycles we've seen over the last few months for the foreseeable.
In saying all of the above, some of the general population need to take a good hard look at themselves. New Zealanders did the right thing, did their civic duty and as a result are cautiously back to some sort of normality. Maybe we're not as patriotic as we all claim to be. Bull*****ers who will sit on a high stool and sing the Fields of Athenry can't abide by a few simple rules to protect their country when it actually does come to the crunch.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 6951 - 05/10/2020 12:52:14 except New Zealand can control its borders far more and far easier than Ireland ever can. New Zealand is 4000km from its nearest neighbours. Everyone has to travel there by air.
Government did most things right here." Sorry but I couldn't disagree more, NPHET have lost the run of themselves and the brutal social and economic actions of their actions are far outweighing the actual health benefits. Also our spineless, gutless government have not done anything right, they are meekly going ahead with every over the top suggestion by NPHET who pretty much appear to be running our country these days!!
gilly1910 (Galway) - Posts: 181 - 05/10/2020 13:42:59
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Replying To Htaem: " Replying To lilypad: "[quote=supersub15: "No face masks = Delusions of Egoic Grandeur. / Thrumpalism." So the meath lads are Trump supporters?"
Hon the royal.
Make Meath great again. 4 more years. :)
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 05/10/2020 13:44:49
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Replying To KillingFields: "I realize there is the thorny issue of the border to consider but you have to look at the likes of New Zealand, who have a similar population to us, island nation(s) etc and wonder how we could not have adopted a similar set of policies to them.
No messing around there. Inbound flights restricted, a proper lockdown, proper track and trace system and they have pretty much eradicated the virus, albeit with one small second wave scare.
To me, the government here have put their faith in a sort of whack-a-mole strategy which was always doomed to failure. This latest level 5 proposal seems too reactionary to me. There's no coherent strategy to it at all. The way we're going we're just going to be stuck in the cycles we've seen over the last few months for the foreseeable.
In saying all of the above, some of the general population need to take a good hard look at themselves. New Zealanders did the right thing, did their civic duty and as a result are cautiously back to some sort of normality. Maybe we're not as patriotic as we all claim to be. Bull*****ers who will sit on a high stool and sing the Fields of Athenry can't abide by a few simple rules to protect their country when it actually does come to the crunch.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 6951 - 05/10/2020 12:52:14 except New Zealand can control its borders far more and far easier than Ireland ever can. New Zealand is 4000km from its nearest neighbours. Everyone has to travel there by air.
Government did most things right here." Ok I can accept the argument over New Zealand's geographical advantage. But with inbound passengers to Ireland from the US for example, could we honestly say that all of those passengers were adhering to the quarantine guidelines?
It all seemed a bit flimsy to me.
Staycations were promoted. Donegal was busier than I'd ever seen it. Whilst good for the local economy, the sheer crowds coming into the county meant a surge in cases here was almost inevitable.
But you're right, our border situation is so delicate it would have been nigh on impossible to establish an all-island approach to dealing with the situation. Too many bigoted vested interests for any sort of sensible consensus to be reached.
I still stand by my last point though. No matter what the government advised personal responsibility and common sense underpinned it all. Too many people either casually ignoring the rules, or worse openly defying them in the form of anti-mask/anti-covid demonstrations. There isn't enough time in the day for me to fully convey my utter contempt for those imbeciles.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9458 - 05/10/2020 13:51:17
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Just watched the celebrations in Cork.
Crazy stuff.
And now all club games have been
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carlovia (None) - Posts: 1521 - 05/10/2020 14:07:01
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So that's probably that for inter-county championship.
GAA have suspended all games 'until further notice'.
Hard to see anything going ahead until late spring at the earliest. I'm hopefully very wrong though!
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13777 - 05/10/2020 14:23:54
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Replying To royaldunne: "Yeah look after the part you live in. How's that goin for you lot??" The ROYAL is rattled. Did Cuchulainn 35 hit a nerve there ROYAL. Your coming on here about Mc Cann when you have Joe Sherdian.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2132 - 05/10/2020 14:25:14
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Replying To gilly1910: " Replying To KillingFields: "I realize there is the thorny issue of the border to consider but you have to look at the likes of New Zealand, who have a similar population to us, island nation(s) etc and wonder how we could not have adopted a similar set of policies to them.
No messing around there. Inbound flights restricted, a proper lockdown, proper track and trace system and they have pretty much eradicated the virus, albeit with one small second wave scare.
To me, the government here have put their faith in a sort of whack-a-mole strategy which was always doomed to failure. This latest level 5 proposal seems too reactionary to me. There's no coherent strategy to it at all. The way we're going we're just going to be stuck in the cycles we've seen over the last few months for the foreseeable.
In saying all of the above, some of the general population need to take a good hard look at themselves. New Zealanders did the right thing, did their civic duty and as a result are cautiously back to some sort of normality. Maybe we're not as patriotic as we all claim to be. Bull*****ers who will sit on a high stool and sing the Fields of Athenry can't abide by a few simple rules to protect their country when it actually does come to the crunch.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 6951 - 05/10/2020 12:52:14 except New Zealand can control its borders far more and far easier than Ireland ever can. New Zealand is 4000km from its nearest neighbours. Everyone has to travel there by air.
Government did most things right here." Sorry but I couldn't disagree more, NPHET have lost the run of themselves and the brutal social and economic actions of their actions are far outweighing the actual health benefits. Also our spineless, gutless government have not done anything right, they are meekly going ahead with every over the top suggestion by NPHET who pretty much appear to be running our country these days!!"
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3624 - 05/10/2020 14:37:50
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I was to coach an u-8 challenge match this evening and it's been called off. I can understand calling off the adult matches due to the post-match celebrations that we've seen, but I don't understand the rhyme or reason for cancelling kids' games - they're hardly going out on the p1$$ after matches, are they?!
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Replying To ballydalane: "I was to coach an u-8 challenge match this evening and it's been called off. I can understand calling off the adult matches due to the post-match celebrations that we've seen, but I don't understand the rhyme or reason for cancelling kids' games - they're hardly going out on the p1$$ after matches, are they?!" Because parents still need to be there/take kids to games. Its to prevent needless travel outside of the bare minimum/most important
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3624 - 05/10/2020 15:17:27
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Replying To ballydalane: "I was to coach an u-8 challenge match this evening and it's been called off. I can understand calling off the adult matches due to the post-match celebrations that we've seen, but I don't understand the rhyme or reason for cancelling kids' games - they're hardly going out on the p1$$ after matches, are they?!" your players get there themselves??? amazing , even for kilkenny
Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2878 - 05/10/2020 15:33:52
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Replying To Crinigan: "I went to one of the semi finals and in my opinion the pairc tailteann stewards were utterly clueless and untrained. It was farcical. I tried sitting with my small family and people kept gathering around me so I'd keep moving to maintain distance (I'm a frontline worker)... I had only gone to the match as I assumed the stewards would ensure that people were well spread out, it's a big stand so plenty of room to spread out. The stewards did nothing. Not only that but at the end we were all herded out together at same time through a narrow slip (to allow next crowd in). The stewards at this time were congregating together having a chat, no masks. It would be comical if it wasn't so serious.
There were clearly more than 200 at the final yesterday, almost no masks worn. O Rourke and Brolly can write all they want about how GAA doing everything they can and govt should allow suppporters in etc but the GAA GAA people from Meath to Tyrone are letting the country down and their communities down. That match was brilliantly broadcast on TG4 yesterday and Meath GAA did great job showing matches online but the crowds are an absolute catastrophe and are shameful." Spot on. I can't understand anyone defending the obvious breech in numbers and complete lack of social distancing in a game that was broadcast live for all to see too. It's absolutely mortifying what happened in Cork yesterday too. Fork Hill GAA, and countless others we may never hear about. The GAA are rightly getting crucified across all social media fora today and I can't say I blame anybody.
lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 05/10/2020 15:42:14
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Replying To gilly1910: " Replying To KillingFields: "I realize there is the thorny issue of the border to consider but you have to look at the likes of New Zealand, who have a similar population to us, island nation(s) etc and wonder how we could not have adopted a similar set of policies to them.
No messing around there. Inbound flights restricted, a proper lockdown, proper track and trace system and they have pretty much eradicated the virus, albeit with one small second wave scare.
To me, the government here have put their faith in a sort of whack-a-mole strategy which was always doomed to failure. This latest level 5 proposal seems too reactionary to me. There's no coherent strategy to it at all. The way we're going we're just going to be stuck in the cycles we've seen over the last few months for the foreseeable.
In saying all of the above, some of the general population need to take a good hard look at themselves. New Zealanders did the right thing, did their civic duty and as a result are cautiously back to some sort of normality. Maybe we're not as patriotic as we all claim to be. Bull*****ers who will sit on a high stool and sing the Fields of Athenry can't abide by a few simple rules to protect their country when it actually does come to the crunch.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 6951 - 05/10/2020 12:52:14 except New Zealand can control its borders far more and far easier than Ireland ever can. New Zealand is 4000km from its nearest neighbours. Everyone has to travel there by air.
Government did most things right here." Sorry but I couldn't disagree more, NPHET have lost the run of themselves and the brutal social and economic actions of their actions are far outweighing the actual health benefits. Also our spineless, gutless government have not done anything right, they are meekly going ahead with every over the top suggestion by NPHET who pretty much appear to be running our country these days!!"
NPHET provide expert advice on health services and public services during times of public health emergencies.
SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 422 - 05/10/2020 15:44:20
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Replying To ballydalane: "I was to coach an u-8 challenge match this evening and it's been called off. I can understand calling off the adult matches due to the post-match celebrations that we've seen, but I don't understand the rhyme or reason for cancelling kids' games - they're hardly going out on the p1$$ after matches, are they?!" I think little Johnny will live if we doesn't have training for the next few weeks.. its all about keeping the economic alive, people health and livelihood is at stake. the less travel we all do the better
patmouse (Monaghan) - Posts: 120 - 05/10/2020 15:46:47
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