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Replying To Square_B:  "Given your own stadium is costing €24mil with a 14k capacity (which is mad money also for a very simple design but anyhow), £170mil should build a whopper of a stadium. There's a good chance that could be brought to c£180mil if the Irish Gov matched the British Gov investment and more if the GAA and the gaels of Antrim contributed more. It's time the GAA got on with it and build as they're very lucky to get what they have."
14k capacity for 24 million V 35k for 315 million.....Is it been built in gold with leather recliner seats......

Fkd12 (Louth) - Posts: 202 - 14/06/2025 10:52:30    2617308

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Obviously does not matter now....

but what Euro 2028 match were they going to have in Casement ?

San Marino vs Andorra ?

sponger (Wicklow) - Posts: 2953 - 14/06/2025 11:28:30    2617319

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Replying To Fkd12:  "14k capacity for 24 million V 35k for 315 million.....Is it been built in gold with leather recliner seats......"
It's a tight enough site however there's no reason why a more simplistic design can't be put forward which caters for a stadium of c25k to 35k. And they need to get on with it quickly as costs are rising month by month according to Jarleth Burns.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1418 - 14/06/2025 11:54:48    2617323

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Replying To tireoghainabu:  "" this stadium will also be a facility for hurling", so the hurlers are allowed in as well. This about sums up the Ulster Council's attitude to hurling."
Sorry I highlighted hurling as some seem to have ignored it.Dont see how the Ulster council have poor attitude towards hurling.

isfeidirrlinn (Armagh) - Posts: 13 - 14/06/2025 11:55:52    2617324

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Replying To isfeidirrlinn:  "Sorry I highlighted hurling as some seem to have ignored it.Dont see how the Ulster council have poor attitude towards hurling."
Are you serious, the Ulster Council treats hurling as an after thought but the same people will get their two complimentary tickets to the hurling final each year without fail and then tell all their pals what a great game hurling is.

tireoghainabu (Tyrone) - Posts: 409 - 14/06/2025 14:12:11    2617344

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Replying To Square_B:  "If the argument is location, well let's move everything on the Island to Athlone and be done with it. Central to everyone...

Belfast badly needs a municipal stadium but of course politics rules on that. It's sad in this day that grown men & women cannot agree on matters of progress."
Issues only arise when Casement is proposed as an alternative Provincial Stadium to Clones, when it openly can't address most of the issues that people have with Clones as a Provincial ground. So its not fit for that purpose despite a £300 million price tag, that is very worrying that people persist with driving the project in its current form.
If they gave Tyrone GAA half of the Casement budget (Approx £150 million) for a makeover of Healy Park, it would probably be >40,000 capacity stadium with decent facilities.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1403 - 14/06/2025 15:13:57    2617365

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Replying To Saynothing:  "My mistake for not looking while I post, big sausage fingers."
No prob

germac (Down) - Posts: 572 - 14/06/2025 15:19:45    2617367

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Replying To Commodore:  "Issues only arise when Casement is proposed as an alternative Provincial Stadium to Clones, when it openly can't address most of the issues that people have with Clones as a Provincial ground. So its not fit for that purpose despite a £300 million price tag, that is very worrying that people persist with driving the project in its current form.
If they gave Tyrone GAA half of the Casement budget (Approx £150 million) for a makeover of Healy Park, it would probably be >40,000 capacity stadium with decent facilities."
Hence why I stated that a redesign is needed to take account of the financial reality that the gap will not be bridged. The stadium design is based on a UEFA standard... clearly not needed anymore. No matter what happens, Belfast needs a GAA stadium and that's where it will be built.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1418 - 14/06/2025 16:14:46    2617375

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Replying To Square_B:  "Hence why I stated that a redesign is needed to take account of the financial reality that the gap will not be bridged. The stadium design is based on a UEFA standard... clearly not needed anymore. No matter what happens, Belfast needs a GAA stadium and that's where it will be built."
I don't disagree about Belfast/Antrim GAA needing a Stadium, I supported that project from early on, but Ulster GAA also badly needs a Provincial Stadium and its now clear that Casement Park will no longer be able to fulfil the Capacity needs of that, plus it won't address a number of other issues people had with Clones.

Knowing that, its madness to spend £250-300 million on a Stadium in Belfast that isn't big enough to be Provincial Stadium we need. Ulster GAA will end up forcing Ulster finals there because of the massive investment, despite less fans being able to attend finals.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1403 - 16/06/2025 23:49:07    2618555

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Replying To Commodore:  "I don't disagree about Belfast/Antrim GAA needing a Stadium, I supported that project from early on, but Ulster GAA also badly needs a Provincial Stadium and its now clear that Casement Park will no longer be able to fulfil the Capacity needs of that, plus it won't address a number of other issues people had with Clones.

Knowing that, its madness to spend £250-300 million on a Stadium in Belfast that isn't big enough to be Provincial Stadium we need. Ulster GAA will end up forcing Ulster finals there because of the massive investment, despite less fans being able to attend finals."
The £62m+£50m+€50m* is only for a Belfast Stadium.

*If the Irish Government pull this and make it available for grounds in the 26 you'll have Thurles and Killarney looking for a slice of it as well as Clones.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2491 - 17/06/2025 09:19:51    2618590

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Replying To Commodore:  "I don't disagree about Belfast/Antrim GAA needing a Stadium, I supported that project from early on, but Ulster GAA also badly needs a Provincial Stadium and its now clear that Casement Park will no longer be able to fulfil the Capacity needs of that, plus it won't address a number of other issues people had with Clones.

Knowing that, its madness to spend £250-300 million on a Stadium in Belfast that isn't big enough to be Provincial Stadium we need. Ulster GAA will end up forcing Ulster finals there because of the massive investment, despite less fans being able to attend finals."
As I've said, the design needs to change significantly if there's any chance of it holding 30k+ for the funds available. Connacht Rugby are building a stand at the moment capable of holding c7k with a mix of standing, seating & corporate facilities at a cost of €40mil. The seating / corporate element is c5k with the rest standing. It can be done but if the GAA is insisting for the current design, it won't be built.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1418 - 17/06/2025 09:25:46    2618592

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Replying To Commodore:  "I don't disagree about Belfast/Antrim GAA needing a Stadium, I supported that project from early on, but Ulster GAA also badly needs a Provincial Stadium and its now clear that Casement Park will no longer be able to fulfil the Capacity needs of that, plus it won't address a number of other issues people had with Clones.

Knowing that, its madness to spend £250-300 million on a Stadium in Belfast that isn't big enough to be Provincial Stadium we need. Ulster GAA will end up forcing Ulster finals there because of the massive investment, despite less fans being able to attend finals."
Forgive my ignorance, but why would less fans be able to attend Ulster finals if they're in Belfast?

Ciaran359 (Galway) - Posts: 32 - 17/06/2025 09:33:32    2618595

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "The £62m+£50m+€50m* is only for a Belfast Stadium.

*If the Irish Government pull this and make it available for grounds in the 26 you'll have Thurles and Killarney looking for a slice of it as well as Clones."
Munster can wait in line, they already have Pairc Ui Choimh, Gaelic Grounds in Limerick, Killarney and Thurles which can all hold large crowds in excess of 40,000.

Ulster GAA hasn't one stadium that can hold anywhere near 40,000, in fact even with Casement Park built, we still won't have a single ground that can hold over 34,000.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1403 - 17/06/2025 09:53:23    2618602

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Replying To Commodore:  "Munster can wait in line, they already have Pairc Ui Choimh, Gaelic Grounds in Limerick, Killarney and Thurles which can all hold large crowds in excess of 40,000.

Ulster GAA hasn't one stadium that can hold anywhere near 40,000, in fact even with Casement Park built, we still won't have a single ground that can hold over 34,000."
I doubt if Killarney is allowed much more than 20,000 these days.
It's a total relic.
Grants will be based on numbers of voters.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2491 - 17/06/2025 11:01:43    2618631

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why should we ,the irish tax payers, pay for a ground in G B , none of the people there pay anything to the irish revenue, let them fund themselves,

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 3000 - 18/06/2025 09:43:56    2618914

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "why should we ,the irish tax payers, pay for a ground in G B , none of the people there pay anything to the irish revenue, let them fund themselves,"
Ruislip? The topic is about Casement

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12431 - 18/06/2025 10:05:14    2618918

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "I doubt if Killarney is allowed much more than 20,000 these days.
It's a total relic.
Grants will be based on numbers of voters."
Apparently 38,000 capacity at present, was 42,000 at one point a few years ago. If you think Killarney is a relic, you should attend a few games around Ulster and get your eyes opened.

The GAA needs to seriously look at that, they taking in a lot of money from Ulster Counties, where attendances on average are really high, yet there is very little to show for it.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1403 - 18/06/2025 13:08:01    2618995

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The One New Zealand Stadium (formerly known as Te Kaha) in Christchurch has a budget of NZ$683 million, which is roughly equivalent to €387 million. The stadium is a multi-use arena with a roof and capacity of 30,000.

387m but with a roof seems great value compared to casement park

Kew (Galway) - Posts: 228 - 18/06/2025 22:07:20    2619104

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "why should we ,the irish tax payers, pay for a ground in G B , none of the people there pay anything to the irish revenue, let them fund themselves,"
Why don't you campaign to have a 26 county All Ireland championship while your at it.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2589 - 19/06/2025 08:59:31    2619143

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Replying To Kew:  "The One New Zealand Stadium (formerly known as Te Kaha) in Christchurch has a budget of NZ$683 million, which is roughly equivalent to €387 million. The stadium is a multi-use arena with a roof and capacity of 30,000.

387m but with a roof seems great value compared to casement park"
Multi-use is the key word from your contribution.

sponger (Wicklow) - Posts: 2953 - 19/06/2025 10:38:55    2619163

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