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Do you have a source for that? Id be quite worried if County teams were eating half a million in food every year. Who sponsors Dublin's catering? TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 30/09/2019 11:58:00 2240263 Link 6 |
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Must be the best fed team in the country. Sure some of them would eat you without salt
royler (Meath) - Posts: 259 - 30/09/2019 12:07:48 2240267 Link 2 |
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Apologies, they spent 1.6m in total. 'In 2016, when Mayo ran up a huge bill of €1.6m, what's overlooked was that €600,000 of that was GPA mileage and travel which Dublin don't have, and half-a million-was catering where Dublin have a partner for this' - https://punditarena.com/gaa/emackenna/mackenna-dublin-success/ That's for all the Mayo teams. As for Dublin's catering sponsorship: "The nutritional support that Gourmet Food Parlour Catering provides to Dublin GAA and the senior football team is an essential element that has contributing to the success of the team in recent years. Lorraine and her outstanding team, work in partnership with the Dublin football management team to design a nutritional performance strategy for the team that caters for each player's individual dietary needs and enables them to perform at their optimum level throughout the season." - Jim Gavin, Dublin GAA Manager All a quick google away jonjon (Mayo) - Posts: 99 - 30/09/2019 12:20:34 2240270 Link 1 |
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I'm not really bothered about how wealthy individuals (Mayo GAA International Supporters Foundation) spend their money.
jonjon (Mayo) - Posts: 99 - 30/09/2019 12:28:48 2240273 Link 0 |
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And yet you are bothered by how money is spent on and given to Dublin GAA. I'm sure there's a whole semantic argument there of what makes one type of money ok to use and spend compared to the other. No need to tell me about it, I'm sure it'll all come out in your posts on this thread On another note, isn't it strange how a relative newcomer on this board spends nearly all his posts on this thread. Also, a lot of those numbers you're quoting are very similar to other posters I've seen. Coincidence I'm sure Best of luck to you jonjo keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 30/09/2019 12:55:58 2240281 Link 3 |
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I think its the height of stupidity counties spending half a million on Taxi's to and from Dublin to Mayo and half a million on Catering. I know some of the Dublin lads dont work in Dublin and if i thought the DCB were paying 1 mill on food and transport i would call them idiots. I have very little sympathy a fool and his money. All that article says is they provide advise on nutrition plans to the county team not that they pay for their food. i ask because i happened to be eating in the same place as the Dublin team after a league game in Roscommon recently and the county delegate was paying for it from DCb funds, saw it myself. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 30/09/2019 12:57:23 2240282 Link 6 |
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Facilities paid by Tyrone people for Tyrone people. Each club paid into this, therefore less money going into said clubs. Can the same be said in the big Smoke? So that's one brilliant facility in Tyrone. How many are in Dublin that the county teams avail of then?
HighStoolBandit (Tyrone) - Posts: 133 - 30/09/2019 13:38:57 2240296 Link 2 |
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Do you think they're paying for taxis? They're paying for players to travel to training. You're showing disrespect and a dismissive attitude by calling feeding players and paying mileage 'the height of stupidity'. How on earth do you think counties from the west of Ireland could maintain a competitive team without paying mileage? Did you know that counties actually have to pay mileage at the standard GAA expense rate of 50c per mile? If only all counties were priviledged enough to get free food and have a 20min drive to training. Just because you saw Dublin senior players being fed ONCE after a match doesn't mean you know how they are provided with food every single training session throughout the year at all codes. Honestly do not know why you brought that up, it means absolutely nothing. The fact is that Gourmet Food Parlour DO provide Dublin GAA with food, as detailed here: https://www.dublinlive.ie/sport/all-ireland-dublin-mayo-2017-13613863 Why don't you actually look it up yourself and accept the facts, instead of coming back to me with insulting comments about people from other counties being fools and idiots. Actually seriously disrespectful comments jonjon (Mayo) - Posts: 99 - 30/09/2019 13:58:04 2240309 Link 3 |
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To give an answer to your question, Brian Fenton talks about where Dublin train and facilities here: https://www.gaa.ie/football/news/brian-fenton-hails-rising-dublin-star-o-cofaigh-byrne/ You would have the question the value of places like Gervaghy and Currans and how counties have prioritized them over grass roots, when you see the acknowledged best team in the country and a set up often tired to mimicked training in club grounds. As you say yourself this has been punitive on local clubs in Tyrone. Glad weve put ours on the long finger and when we do, do it it will be right right model and not levying clubs, i think when we develop the site at the Spawell we will do it well and cutting edge. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 30/09/2019 14:07:38 2240316 Link 7 |
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Im presuming in Mayos case admittedly, going from memory i remember Roscommon posting a huge amout on transport cost a couple of years ago and it turned out they were paying for taxis up and down from where ever. I presume given the figure and reputation anything Roscommon do an a norm Mayo would be doing as they want for nothing money wise, second and sometimes first in county spends ahead of Dublin, more power to them in terms of revenue raising. So can you confirm the Mayo lads in Dublin are driving up and down to training of their own bat? im aware of the standardized expense rate alright, my experience is its very rarely adhered too. Here the Roscommon story: https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/gaa-accepts-escalating-travel-costs-an-issue-for-counties-1.3624648 its none of my business what Mayo county board choose to do to make Mayo compeitive, i presume they are making a choice and commitment to facilitate players who have made a lifestyle choice not to live in the county, to be brought up and down to the county. Thats the choice of the Mayo county board, equally its the choice of the player not to live in Mayo. No one is holding a gun to anyones head, Jack McCaffery and Mick Fitzsomons often work dopwn the country on their medical rotations and i know travel up and down. Ciaran Kilkenny often spends the summer down the Gaelteacht and goe sup and down. I presume that their choice and lifestyle decision, i look at it the same way as Mayo. I dont accept that Dubln get free food i presume they get food, but im also sure its paid for, i know Mayo get similar through a catering company Swinford, as id know a few quite well involved in the back room teams in Mayo. Again the links you provided just show they provide food and link with the nutritionlist in terms of meals plans it doesnt say that they get food for free. Its the same as http://www.treanlaurcatering.ie/about.html who are Mayo caters, mayo menu looks tasty to be fair to them. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 30/09/2019 14:26:37 2240328 Link 5 |
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P.S. paying 1.1mill on food and taxis for any county is absolute stupidity and id include Dublin in that too, pure stupidity.
TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 30/09/2019 14:30:09 2240329 Link 5 |
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I dunno how he does it!
Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 30/09/2019 14:46:31 2240334 Link 8 |
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Well if you knew anything about where Dublin players train and prepare you would find it is nothing remotely like Gervaghey. I hope it proves value for money for the people who invested time and energy to raise that sum.
Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 30/09/2019 14:49:52 2240337 Link 3 |
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20 minutes drive to training ? They don't train at 3 am in the morning and even if they did it would take some of them a lot more than that. If you want to level talk about disrespectful comments and facts , the least you could do is show some yourself. Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 30/09/2019 14:55:52 2240339 Link 3 |
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I have to laugh at a Tyrone poster talking about money! I'm unsure if you followed or remember the GAA a mere decade ago. There are dozens of articles, radio/tv shows and marketing opportunites promoting the club Tyrone concept. It was preached how a GAA county were ahead of their time in putting together a business which had representation on the county board. We were told about the finance, cultural aspect of this concept with the aim of improving Tyrone GAA. We were given this as one the reasons the county won All Irelands and with their forward thinking approach would dominate for years to come. We then seen the plans for a professional training centre never seen in the GAA before with better facilities than all northern sporting organisations including Ulster Rugby. Tyrone over a period of time were able to far outspend other Ulster counties and it appeared they'd dominate the province whilst ramming their financal muscle down the throats of rivals. Historical neighbours simply couldn't compete; not due to coaching or players but purely down to the sheer amount of finance going into preparation. This is the reason one of the first things McGuinness did as Donegal manager was tap into his counties ex pat potential. When he had the finance he targeted Tyrone more than anybody else and when Tyrone and Donegal were at a level playing field finance wise Donegal under McGuinness easily took care of Tyrone and stopped the Tyrone plan of using finance to dominate Ulster and beyond. They still possess a professional training centre but the initial plan hasn't worked which is part of Tyrone's frustration. There are now five top counties in the country generating eye watering sums of money for coaching and preparation. These counties are miles ahead but amongst their own small group they can all spend the same amount of money on preparation making it innaccurate Dublin are purely winning because of finance. The top 5 counties will not be caught for a generation and are living a life the others can only dream about. If you want to enter this exclusive group counties have to find a way to finance it. Tyrone, Mayo, Donegal and Kerry in particular have no right to cry about Dublin's finance as they are part of the same group. sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 30/09/2019 15:58:35 2240363 Link 6 |
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Maybe they do pay, maybe they don't. I'm only going off what Ewan McKenna wrote. Also just because Roscommon paid for Taxis doesn't mean Mayo do. I can confirm that Mayo players drive to training themselves. Regardless, you're talking about Mayo as if they can afford not to pick players who live in Dublin, so therefore it's their own fault they are spending that amount of money on transport. You're talking as if players in Mayo have a choice of whether to live elsewhere or not. It's showing a clear lack of understanding of the economic situation on the ground in places like Mayo and Roscommon. It is an economic necessity for most to leave Mayo and Roscommon. Do you think young people can afford to skip college and stay at home on the chance they MIGHT make the county panel? And then if they do make the panel do you think they can afford to drop out of college and not get a degree? If not, and they finish their degree do you expect them to come home and work a poor paying job as there are no jobs in their area after the money they've spent on getting a degree? Players from counties like Mayo and Roscommon face huge difficulties which Dublin players don't face. It's the same at club level. Club teams can't train all together midweek. On the weekend they might be able to train together on a Friday, only if they have a game Sunday and not Saturday. So you could actually go weeks without the whole team training together. Counties like Mayo and Roscommon can't afford to only pick players living in the county as they would be disregarding a huge chunk of their playing population and would be operating at a Division 4 level. So are Mayo GAA still idiots for spending on transport? These counties HAVE to pick players living outside the county and they HAVE to pay their mileage if they want to compete. Comparing that to two Dublin players who live outside the county and one who likes to spend his summers in the Gaeltacht is laughable. At the end of the day Dublin have a massive advantage. The original point being Dublin do not have to spend that 600k on travel and they're possibly saving on catering as well. So saying Mayo spend the same amount preparing their teams as Dublin doesn't make any sense. jonjon (Mayo) - Posts: 99 - 30/09/2019 16:42:36 2240388 Link 0 |
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''Tyrone, Mayo, Donegal and Kerry in particular have no right to cry about Dublin's finance as they are part of the same group." No they're not. jonjon (Mayo) - Posts: 99 - 30/09/2019 16:44:41 2240390 Link 1 |
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In terms of financing and preparing senior teams yes they are! Look at the figures coming out of the states in regards to Mayo GAA. This is only half the story; not including money from Australia and the UK. Mayo are well able to prepare a team to professional standards.
sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 30/09/2019 17:10:34 2240401 Link 5 |
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Ah now we are getting to the nub of it, youve gone full Ewan you should never go full full Ewan. The lad posts on here and on everywhere else and has lost an awful lot of credibility, without being able to back up his "facts" and his words about Jim Gavin. I have already said its none of my business how Mayo want to conduct their funding, what i do think they face an active choice either to pick and facilitate players playing away, that up to Mayo and how they want to spend their budget. 500 k is a lot and i would be curious of the breakdown, is it Taxi's, is it Group Taransport, is it mileage? Is that a good use of funds, is it better to have a training camp in Dublin, is it better to rotate training camps, moving themanagement team as opposed to the players etc etc. There are numerous options in terms of managing that fund and figure likely for the betterment of grassroots GAA in Mayo, i know clubs there pay a huge supplement to the county board. Its interesting that foreign wing of fundraising is withholding funds to the county based to the lack of corporate governance and accountability. With a figure like half a million being spent on transport its not good enough to say ah sure we live miles away from home and thats the way it is, so we need to spend half a million. Its a ridiculously stupidly high figure, that seems to lack corporate governance, accoutability or transparceny, you wourself cant tell me exactly what its used on.Still tyhere is an internal allegation in Mayo around corporate governance and transparency, there is obviously a problem in Mayo with that. But that internal business. If you do you not see the problem with spending 1.1 mill, on transport and food and saying poor us, if you dont think that is a problem or the only solution is to pay it again because lads have to move out of Mayo, then you deserve to pay through the nose. massively poor corporate governance. That s before you even look at it as the best way to prepare a team. Yes i still think Mayo are stupid for spending 1.1 million on food and transport. You seem to be justifying it, but cant say what the situation is with taxis, group travel, mileage, training camps in Dublin etc,m how is that 1.1 mill broken down? If you dont know it about your own county why should anyone believe you when you paint allegation as "facts" about another county i.e. Dublin. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 30/09/2019 18:02:20 2240415 Link 10 |
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Tell us which poster is Ewan as you state you know. Amazing how you have this insight, you must be a moderator so. Interesting that you know, yet recently you were posting about privacy & GDPR rules on here with others but you now seem to be in contradiction mode with certain statements. Interesting to see will this post pass or will it be censored.
moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 01/10/2019 00:59:42 2240497 Link 5 |