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Should There Be Extra Time In All Ireland Finals?

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A lot of people have a jaundiced view of the GAA and replays. Some replays look like they are staged or allowed for financial gain for the Association. Also does not having extra time ruin the final day for supporters. I was at the Galway V Kilkenny hurling final a few years ago. It ended in a draw. It was a huge anti climax. Surely the time has come for the GAA to have extra time in both hurling and football finals. This is common practice in Soccer.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 1894 - 08/09/2019 14:45:17    2233561

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Im into replays from a purely selfish point of view.

It means another day out, Croker absolute rammed. Great colour and hopefully another great game to go with it. It brings extra dough for the GAA hierarchy to get shared around, and it gives the players who are already goosed after 79 minutes of football last week a chance to brush themselves off and go again.

You can make a case think its unfair on Kerry people who have to make the trip again, especially if they were also up for Camogie today but look, nothing you can do about geography and we can all talk about Dublin playing x amount of games in CP, ultimately an AI final at senior level is a CP event and will never be moved, rightly so.

Last sunday, Kerry edged the first and third quarter you could say, Dublin the 2nd and 4th. Both teams were a credit to themselves, So, look, I suppose a loser on the day would have been maybe a bit harsh and its right that they get to do it again next week.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13541 - 08/09/2019 15:01:42    2233563

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I would prefer extra time on the day as well, particularly as referees seem far too happy to either blow up a bit early when the teams are level, or give the team a point behind all day to equalize, to ensure a replay and that they receive as little controversy as possible for time keeping or favouring a particular team.

eoghan6688 (Galway) - Posts: 120 - 08/09/2019 15:42:57    2233572

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The purpose of the Final is to find the Winner - A draw fails that. So I'd day, finish it on the day. Making extra money for the GAA is a flawed reason for Replay retention.
If it is about making more money - be honest about it - and have 'best of 3' instead (might be better in the QF round).

omahant (USA) - Posts: 1815 - 08/09/2019 16:52:32    2233582

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There are merits to both.

I'd like to see extra time after all championship games but if level after extra time then have a replay.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13085 - 08/09/2019 17:07:07    2233585

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Personally I hope this replay next Saturday evening is the last one. It is time to bring in extra time. The final should be decided on the day. How about 10 minutes each half of extra time. I am sure Mayo in particular, or even Galway, would have won more All Ireland's had extra time been played. A replay suits the stronger counties, eg Dubs, Kilkenny and Kerry.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 1894 - 08/09/2019 17:33:40    2233588

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Replying To galwayford:  "Personally I hope this replay next Saturday evening is the last one. It is time to bring in extra time. The final should be decided on the day. How about 10 minutes each half of extra time. I am sure Mayo in particular, or even Galway, would have won more All Ireland's had extra time been played. A replay suits the stronger counties, eg Dubs, Kilkenny and Kerry."
you speak as if Galway arent one of the most successful counties...
Galway have 3rd most football all irelands and have high number of hurling all irelands as well

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 1364 - 08/09/2019 20:01:49    2233635

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Personally I would like to see extra time, its the final, its in the name. The final should be the final game surely?
But now we get to see it all again this weekend which I wont complain about... wish I could say the same about Brolly though

boman11 (Antrim) - Posts: 237 - 09/09/2019 08:58:39    2233731

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drawn match : more goals scored wins?
makes goals even more important

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3769 - 09/09/2019 12:19:10    2233812

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Replying To perfect10:  "drawn match : more goals scored wins?
makes goals even more important"
Rubbish idea.

A team that scores 2-10 (12 scores) winning against a team that scored 0-16 (16 scores) .

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13541 - 09/09/2019 21:46:49    2233978

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Replying To waynoI:  "Rubbish idea.

A team that scores 2-10 (12 scores) winning against a team that scored 0-16 (16 scores) ."
yeah?whats wrong with it?
increases the value of a goal in theory

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3769 - 11/09/2019 09:04:25    2234294

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Replying To perfect10:  "yeah?whats wrong with it?
increases the value of a goal in theory"
A goal is already worth 3, if anything it should be the team with more scores rather than goals based on your idea.

But still not a great idea

boman11 (Antrim) - Posts: 237 - 11/09/2019 09:46:53    2234312

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I like replays for finals but nothing else, its like an extra Christmas

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1359 - 11/09/2019 10:34:03    2234337

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Replying To perfect10:  "drawn match : more goals scored wins?
makes goals even more important"
I think in the very early days of the GAA total goals scored would outweigh any number of points by the opposition.

Suas Sios (None) - Posts: 1409 - 11/09/2019 21:59:29    2234593

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Replying To Suas Sios:  "I think in the very early days of the GAA total goals scored would outweigh any number of points by the opposition."
true,it was probably deemed too soccer ish

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3769 - 11/09/2019 22:10:48    2234599

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Replying To Suas Sios:  "I think in the very early days of the GAA total goals scored would outweigh any number of points by the opposition."
Absolutely true.

Which made scoring points a bit of a waste of time.

lionofludesch (Down) - Posts: 367 - 11/09/2019 22:15:18    2234602

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Only in replays.

First games need to be decided over another game imo. Gives us something to look forward to as well.
Any other game can go to extra time if needed, provincial finals included, this is not the case though.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3745 - 11/09/2019 22:26:26    2234605

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There are very valid arguments for both cases..the idea that replays favour the perceived"better team" would be true ..off the top of my head im reminded of a qualifier between cork and limerick in 2010 football championship where cork looked comfortable enough limerick get a run on us and game ends in a draw..now that night in limerick the momentum being with the underdogs going into extra time was nerve wracking and limerick could well have won...if that game went to a replay I'd imagine cork may have won by a margin of 6+ points..so that's one valid case of deciding it on the day no matter what...

However on the other side of the coin is it really fair especially in an amateur organisation to expect these men and women to play on for another 20 mins after pouring their entire being into the previous 70 mins? Basically deciding a game via physical conditioning and athleticism of a team? Look at cork v limerick in 2018 all Ireland semi in hurling..limerick bolted in extra time by being the fitter side and deservedly winning out then..however is it really fair when every couple of mins players are cramping up for real this time rather than acting cramped up when winding down a clock..lets not forget that these players still have jobs to go to on Monday morning...or not depending on if they take time off or not.

You'll never make everyone happy and to be honest I'm quite happy the way it is atm where finals go to replays and earlier rounds go to extra time...gives us another good match to look forward too aswell let's not forget

pidge (Cork) - Posts: 536 - 11/09/2019 22:47:16    2234609

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Replying To Donegalman:  "Only in replays.

First games need to be decided over another game imo. Gives us something to look forward to as well.
Any other game can go to extra time if needed, provincial finals included, this is not the case though."
If teams finish level after nearly 80 mins in an All-Ireland final, they both deserve to share in the glory of the occasion and their performances. Neither team should have to endure the awful emptiness that comes with losing - that is for another day.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 11/09/2019 23:02:52    2234612

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should they not just give them both the cup,have a replica sure

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3769 - 12/09/2019 11:31:10    2234693

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