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This has the feel of a dead rubber though technically it isn't. I can't see kerry losing but the players and management won't be taking it lightly Meath have competed well and only been beat in the last ten minutes of the two games. I'd be more worried if they had something to play for though

reithi (Kerry) - Posts: 52 - 23/07/2019 19:27:22    2215406

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Replying To reithi:  "This has the feel of a dead rubber though technically it isn't. I can't see kerry losing but the players and management won't be taking it lightly Meath have competed well and only been beat in the last ten minutes of the two games. I'd be more worried if they had something to play for though"
Yep can't afford to be complacent but think PK will ensure that doesn't seep in. He might make a few changes to ensure lads chasing a starting 15 are given a chance to impress. Momentum will be a big thing as the Semi finals are only a week later.
Hopefully he will also have a full deck of cards to choose from and please goodness we get no more injuries before or during that game!
Think we played Meath already in a challenge match early this summer and beat them well so a good omen.

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 5933 - 24/07/2019 13:36:09    2215734

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The most certain result of the four matches.

steve097 (Dublin) - Posts: 109 - 24/07/2019 17:11:17    2215864

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Replying To reithi:  "This has the feel of a dead rubber though technically it isn't. I can't see kerry losing but the players and management won't be taking it lightly Meath have competed well and only been beat in the last ten minutes of the two games. I'd be more worried if they had something to play for though"
For the Meath players and management it's another opportunity to gain experience of playing a top team, something that has been evidently lacking in our two games to date, and really that's what reaching the Super 8's was about for us, to gain experience and help us develop and ready us for Division 1 next year. The score lines v Donegal and Mayo weren't kind to us and didn't do our efforts or play justice but learning can be harsh at times and mistakes you might get away with in Division 2 will be punished with aplomb at this level, that's the learning curve Meath are on. Yes Kerry should win but it's a big occasion for Meath, our last game of the year at home v Kerry who I don't think have graced Pairc Tailteann since the league in 1996, add in the possible sentimentality that it could be the last Meath game in Pairc Tailteann before redevelopment starts and you have a few ingredients that might add extra vigour to our performance. However anything other than a Kerry win would be a big surprise but Meath will be looking for another promising performance with about 10 minutes added on to it and a bit more accuracy in front of goal, hopefully a packed house and great atmosphere too.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3592 - 25/07/2019 04:47:03    2216109

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Replying To Richieq:  "For the Meath players and management it's another opportunity to gain experience of playing a top team, something that has been evidently lacking in our two games to date, and really that's what reaching the Super 8's was about for us, to gain experience and help us develop and ready us for Division 1 next year. The score lines v Donegal and Mayo weren't kind to us and didn't do our efforts or play justice but learning can be harsh at times and mistakes you might get away with in Division 2 will be punished with aplomb at this level, that's the learning curve Meath are on. Yes Kerry should win but it's a big occasion for Meath, our last game of the year at home v Kerry who I don't think have graced Pairc Tailteann since the league in 1996, add in the possible sentimentality that it could be the last Meath game in Pairc Tailteann before redevelopment starts and you have a few ingredients that might add extra vigour to our performance. However anything other than a Kerry win would be a big surprise but Meath will be looking for another promising performance with about 10 minutes added on to it and a bit more accuracy in front of goal, hopefully a packed house and great atmosphere too."
Do you reckon it will sell out? Haven't looked for tickets yet. Capacity is about 17k?

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 5933 - 25/07/2019 15:04:54    2216333

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Replying To reithi:  "This has the feel of a dead rubber though technically it isn't. I can't see kerry losing but the players and management won't be taking it lightly Meath have competed well and only been beat in the last ten minutes of the two games. I'd be more worried if they had something to play for though"
They have pride and the home support to play for. While they have nothing to play for they have absolutely nothing to lose and surely being written off by nearly everyone will bring some reaction from them to top off a very good 2019 for them.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5997 - 25/07/2019 15:16:48    2216345

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Yep can't afford to be complacent but think PK will ensure that doesn't seep in. He might make a few changes to ensure lads chasing a starting 15 are given a chance to impress. Momentum will be a big thing as the Semi finals are only a week later.
Hopefully he will also have a full deck of cards to choose from and please goodness we get no more injuries before or during that game!
Think we played Meath already in a challenge match early this summer and beat them well so a good omen."
The score line was something like 3-16 to 0-19. With two of Kerry goals coming in first few mins I heard.
This is likely the last Meath championship game in pairc tailteann before the redevelopment commence so I expect Meath to give a serious good effort and might just sneak a win. Navan is a fortress and teams don't win easy there.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17155 - 25/07/2019 16:22:59    2216393

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Replying To Richieq:  "For the Meath players and management it's another opportunity to gain experience of playing a top team, something that has been evidently lacking in our two games to date, and really that's what reaching the Super 8's was about for us, to gain experience and help us develop and ready us for Division 1 next year. The score lines v Donegal and Mayo weren't kind to us and didn't do our efforts or play justice but learning can be harsh at times and mistakes you might get away with in Division 2 will be punished with aplomb at this level, that's the learning curve Meath are on. Yes Kerry should win but it's a big occasion for Meath, our last game of the year at home v Kerry who I don't think have graced Pairc Tailteann since the league in 1996, add in the possible sentimentality that it could be the last Meath game in Pairc Tailteann before redevelopment starts and you have a few ingredients that might add extra vigour to our performance. However anything other than a Kerry win would be a big surprise but Meath will be looking for another promising performance with about 10 minutes added on to it and a bit more accuracy in front of goal, hopefully a packed house and great atmosphere too."
where will we play our home league games next year if that's it for Navan?

meath1987 (Meath) - Posts: 116 - 25/07/2019 16:39:11    2216400

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Replying To meath1987:  "where will we play our home league games next year if that's it for Navan?"
Good question! A few double headers in Croker maybe? Would the Meath CB agree to that?

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4318 - 25/07/2019 16:55:16    2216410

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Replying To meath1987:  "where will we play our home league games next year if that's it for Navan?"
It won't be it for Navan they intend keeping it open, that's why they starting on the terrace side first as the stand side, bad and all as it is, is needed to keep league matches going. I just meant it could be the last game there in its present form

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3592 - 25/07/2019 17:29:13    2216432

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Do you reckon it will sell out? Haven't looked for tickets yet. Capacity is about 17k?"
Capacity is unknown, one of the guys in the Meath Chronicle recently tweeted that it was about 12'000, honestly with health and safety these days you just wouldn't know it seems to change match to match, look at MacHale Park in Castlebar they have cut that by 6000 for the Donegal match at the stroke of a pen without even detailing the so called safety concerns, it's farcical stuff really. Pairc Tailteann is well fit to hold 17'000 but whether it's let us another matter.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3592 - 25/07/2019 17:32:20    2216436

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Replying To cavanman47:  "Good question! A few double headers in Croker maybe? Would the Meath CB agree to that?"
Not a hope, any Navan will be fit to hold league matches, enough unnecessary games in Croker without us adding to it.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3592 - 25/07/2019 17:33:44    2216438

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Replying To Richieq:  "For the Meath players and management it's another opportunity to gain experience of playing a top team, something that has been evidently lacking in our two games to date, and really that's what reaching the Super 8's was about for us, to gain experience and help us develop and ready us for Division 1 next year. The score lines v Donegal and Mayo weren't kind to us and didn't do our efforts or play justice but learning can be harsh at times and mistakes you might get away with in Division 2 will be punished with aplomb at this level, that's the learning curve Meath are on. Yes Kerry should win but it's a big occasion for Meath, our last game of the year at home v Kerry who I don't think have graced Pairc Tailteann since the league in 1996, add in the possible sentimentality that it could be the last Meath game in Pairc Tailteann before redevelopment starts and you have a few ingredients that might add extra vigour to our performance. However anything other than a Kerry win would be a big surprise but Meath will be looking for another promising performance with about 10 minutes added on to it and a bit more accuracy in front of goal, hopefully a packed house and great atmosphere too."
Good points. How often in sport especially soccer do you see a team relegated then they go and win games playing great, they'll be no pressure on Meath any weight will be off they're shoulders and that's dangerous with a team with as much talent as they have. Feels a very important draw with Donegal now in a game that could have gone either way! I still feel Kerry will have the right attitude to get the job done tho

reithi (Kerry) - Posts: 52 - 25/07/2019 19:45:26    2216478

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Is Mickey Newman injured for this game lads?

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 12218 - 25/07/2019 20:21:07    2216493

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Is Mickey Newman injured for this game lads?"
Haven't heard how bad it is yet, seemed a hamstring tweak, if he unavailable I would expect young Shane Walsh to get a starting spot.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3592 - 25/07/2019 21:48:51    2216536

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Replying To Richieq:  "Capacity is unknown, one of the guys in the Meath Chronicle recently tweeted that it was about 12'000, honestly with health and safety these days you just wouldn't know it seems to change match to match, look at MacHale Park in Castlebar they have cut that by 6000 for the Donegal match at the stroke of a pen without even detailing the so called safety concerns, it's farcical stuff really. Pairc Tailteann is well fit to hold 17'000 but whether it's let us another matter."
12,000? That's a pretty hefty reduction so.
You have to ask what is going on at the minute with these capacity reductions being imposed due to "health and safety" concerns?
You rightly mentioned the massive reduction for the McHale Park game. That's crazy, didn't Mayo GAA run up a pretty large deficit over the last few years due to a big redevelopment of Castlebar to actually increase its capacity and now its down to 26,000?
I couldn't understand the capacity reduction in Killarney either a couple of weeks ago. There was plenty of room in the terraces despite it being "sold out", I remember it being far more crowded in Munster finals over recent years and no problem.
The excuse given for that game was that Killarney couldn't cope with thirty odd thousand people converging on the ground at a certain time. So what? You just queue, I often remember having to queue a good long time to get into Semple stadium for double headers in hurling and football in Munster.

This whole reduction in capacity has to be a knock on effect of the crazy increases in rates of insurance over the last year, what else can it be?

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 5933 - 26/07/2019 10:26:26    2216679

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Replying To TheHermit:  "12,000? That's a pretty hefty reduction so.
You have to ask what is going on at the minute with these capacity reductions being imposed due to "health and safety" concerns?
You rightly mentioned the massive reduction for the McHale Park game. That's crazy, didn't Mayo GAA run up a pretty large deficit over the last few years due to a big redevelopment of Castlebar to actually increase its capacity and now its down to 26,000?
I couldn't understand the capacity reduction in Killarney either a couple of weeks ago. There was plenty of room in the terraces despite it being "sold out", I remember it being far more crowded in Munster finals over recent years and no problem.
The excuse given for that game was that Killarney couldn't cope with thirty odd thousand people converging on the ground at a certain time. So what? You just queue, I often remember having to queue a good long time to get into Semple stadium for double headers in hurling and football in Munster.

This whole reduction in capacity has to be a knock on effect of the crazy increases in rates of insurance over the last year, what else can it be?"
Insurance 100%. Why did they audit saftey after stadium development rather than before it? Money down the toilet.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3786 - 26/07/2019 11:42:43    2216706

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Is Mickey Newman injured for this game lads?"
No confirmation either way. But I would say he won't be playing, that's only going on what I saw in Croke Park, now hopefully not as bad as it looked.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17155 - 26/07/2019 19:43:24    2216900

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Replying To royaldunne:  "No confirmation either way. But I would say he won't be playing, that's only going on what I saw in Croke Park, now hopefully not as bad as it looked."
Sound royaldunne, I genuinely hope he's ok.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 12218 - 28/07/2019 10:49:48    2217455

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Replying To Richieq:  "Haven't heard how bad it is yet, seemed a hamstring tweak, if he unavailable I would expect young Shane Walsh to get a starting spot."
Cheers Richieq, he's a fine player and would be a serious loss to ye.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 12218 - 28/07/2019 10:51:14    2217456

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