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Its mad how this Dublin team will never be fully appreciated. 2-26 against a team who beat both mayo and galway, despite taking 20 minutes off in the second half. Absolutely magnificent. Paddy small second half was incredible. His last point in the final minutes of the game was worth the admission fee alone. Hard to see last the dubs, regardless of who wins out in the end, they're a truly spectacular special team. Savage. Onto the next one

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 20/07/2019 21:56:32    2213727

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Replying To gallarus14:  "So there is four teams left in battle for second place."
Yea dude

Generally when there is 4 teams left, 3 of them will end up with nothing.

What's your point??

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 20/07/2019 22:00:09    2213730

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Replying To waynoI:  "Its mad how this Dublin team will never be fully appreciated. 2-26 against a team who beat both mayo and galway, despite taking 20 minutes off in the second half. Absolutely magnificent. Paddy small second half was incredible. His last point in the final minutes of the game was worth the admission fee alone. Hard to see last the dubs, regardless of who wins out in the end, they're a truly spectacular special team. Savage. Onto the next one"
For as good as Dublin were we were very poor. Tonight highlighted that we still have a lot of work to do on our tackling,strength and conditioning. The latter is much needed as few months under new management was never going to fix those major issues we have. Its not by chance they we had little left tank for Connacht final replay 2016,Replay v Mayo 2017 or last year v Tyrone in round 1 of the group stage. Each time we came off the back of hard games and the best teams also happen to be the most conditioned and will ruthlessly expose what mistakes you makes which was a mountain of mistakes from us tonight.

Long story short we didn't make ourselves hard to beat or score against matter of fact we must have gifted about 2-8 alone to Dublin tonight and you can't expect to be competitive against sides of Dublin's quality when that happens.

ispeakwisdom (Roscommon) - Posts: 2487 - 20/07/2019 22:06:30    2213734

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Tyrone are Dublins biggest threat to 5 in a row. They were excellent today. Easily second best team in the country right now. Next week though I would say Tyrone might rest a few top names. They have come through a mammoth number of games and it doesn't make sense to throw on all the full cavalry for a dead rubber. Just like the Donegal game, the players need to rest up to focus on the real prize. Throwing everything at Dublin in Omagh makes no sense. Dublin will win in Omagh but this wont hurt the red hands as we will be waiting in the long grass later.

Game2Halves (Tyrone) - Posts: 265 - 20/07/2019 22:16:33    2213738

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Replying To ke40:  "And people giving out about the Leinster championship, Dublin will wipe the floor with any team in ireland"
They're the best team to have ever played the game. It's that simple. That first 30m tonight was unreal. Rossies probably should have tried a blanket to stifle the Dubs because you go man to man with them at your peril. Donegal, for example, would not be that naive.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 20/07/2019 22:17:59    2213739

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Replying To Joxer:  "Lightyears ahead in standard compared to the defensive rugby muck that preceded it though in fairness."
Attendances were higher TBF. There is an apathy now.

I dont like extremely defensive football but I cant see how this is 'lightyears' ahead. For who?

Defensive football , which Dublin very much took part in too , especially 2011 meant closer games. As bad as it was at Least we usually got a decent 10 minute spell at the end

IamDonegal (Donegal) - Posts: 134 - 20/07/2019 22:30:11    2213747

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Replying To valley84:  "Just the 4 games at home in a row for Dublin then."
Yeah Omagh is in Dublin right enough.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 20/07/2019 22:32:07    2213748

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Replying To Joxer:  "Lightyears ahead in standard compared to the defensive rugby muck that preceded it though in fairness."
Hi Joe!

Heading for 5 in a row - and still bitter?

https://www.dublinlive.ie/sport/dublin-more-defensive-ever-says-14917194

I'd say six in a row won't be a problem either. Meanwhile, enjoy the view from your high horse.

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 20/07/2019 22:36:16    2213749

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If the Rossies had got Dublin in the first game in the Hyde it would have been way more competitive. The Rossies had nothing to play for in reality. Dublin are a team made for croke park but if they were in the Hyde it wouldnt be so easy. Provincial grounds would not suit Dublin.

brisbane (Galway) - Posts: 674 - 20/07/2019 22:38:21    2213753

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Replying To gallarus14:  "So there is four teams left in battle for second place."
Be Jaysus but that's quare and eye opening observation. Have you any other ones ?

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 20/07/2019 22:42:14    2213755

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What's the logic behind Roscommon's rugby tackles? Dean Rock scored 10 frees. Not like the ref was giving soft ones either. If you gift Dublin 10 scores like that you're guaranteed to take a pounding. There's tough tackling then there's stupid tackling. Don't think dragging players to the ground 35 yards from your own goal is a great tactic.

Pantani (Dublin) - Posts: 48 - 20/07/2019 22:59:58    2213763

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Replying To Hawkeye9212:  "Let's assume Donegal, Mayo, or Kerry beat Dublin. It's only marginally better than the current situation. Why bother watching or playing in the Championship when you know the winner will be from a small group of counties in most years."
That is a really stupid post.

Are you really saying that unless you are in the running to win Sam that you shouldn't even take part in the competition?
On that basis every sport in the world would collapse as only those in the running for the big prize would take part.

Thankfully yours is a minority point of view & thousands turn out every week for the pride of club/county. Otherwise the good done by the GAA and other sports for young & old alike would end & the country would be much the poorer for it.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 20/07/2019 23:02:43    2213767

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Replying To Hawkeye9212:  "Let's assume Donegal, Mayo, or Kerry beat Dublin. It's only marginally better than the current situation. Why bother watching or playing in the Championship when you know the winner will be from a small group of counties in most years."
That is a really stupid post.

Are you really saying that unless you are in the running to win Sam that you shouldn't even take part in the competition?
On that basis every sport in the world would collapse as only those in the running for the big prize would take part.

Thankfully yours is a minority point of view & thousands turn out every week for the pride of club/county. Otherwise the good done by the GAA and other sports for young & old alike would end & the country would be much the poorer for it.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 20/07/2019 23:02:58    2213768

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Replying To gallarus14:  "So there is four teams left in battle for second place."
I'd love if the team that loses to Dublin in the final bought themselves a replica Sam and claimed to be the best "county" in Ireland. Celebrate it at your post match dinner then parade it on Monday for the homecoming. Would be some laugh!

waynoI: "Its mad how this Dublin team will never be fully appreciated. 2-26 against a team who beat both mayo and galway, despite taking 20 minutes off in the second half. Absolutely magnificent. Paddy small second half was incredible. His last point in the final minutes of the game was worth the admission fee alone. Hard to see last the dubs, regardless of who wins out in the end, they're a truly spectacular special team. Savage. Onto the next one"

Do you want a pat on the back? When you consider the metrics you should be this good and in 5/10 years you should be better.

Game2Halves: "Tyrone are Dublins biggest threat to 5 in a row. They were excellent today. Easily second best team in the country right now. Next week though I would say Tyrone might rest a few top names. They have come through a mammoth number of games and it doesn't make sense to throw on all the full cavalry for a dead rubber. Just like the Donegal game, the players need to rest up to focus on the real prize. Throwing everything at Dublin in Omagh makes no sense. Dublin will win in Omagh but this wont hurt the red hands as we will be waiting in the long grass later."

I would have massive respect for Harte if he goes with sense over pride. Throw out a completely different 15 get hammered by Dublin and rest the main players. Have the first 15 doing a tough training session the Friday before, recovery/gym sat Sunday and then a serious session Monday. Don't let this meaningless match disrupt your preparation for the semi final. It's what meath should have done for the Leinster final.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 20/07/2019 23:15:11    2213777

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Replying To Game2Halves:  "Tyrone are Dublins biggest threat to 5 in a row. They were excellent today. Easily second best team in the country right now. Next week though I would say Tyrone might rest a few top names. They have come through a mammoth number of games and it doesn't make sense to throw on all the full cavalry for a dead rubber. Just like the Donegal game, the players need to rest up to focus on the real prize. Throwing everything at Dublin in Omagh makes no sense. Dublin will win in Omagh but this wont hurt the red hands as we will be waiting in the long grass later."
Tyrone weren't even the second best team in Ulster let alone them being anywhere close to being the second best team in Ireland.

They scraped past a Div 3 team today, you have already thrown in the towel against Dublin & watching that game today was mostly purgatory, but I really do have to admire the sense of self belief/delusion that accompnies the statement that Tyrone are any sort of threat to Dublin

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 20/07/2019 23:22:07    2213782

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "I'd love if the team that loses to Dublin in the final bought themselves a replica Sam and claimed to be the best "county" in Ireland. Celebrate it at your post match dinner then parade it on Monday for the homecoming. Would be some laugh!

waynoI: "Its mad how this Dublin team will never be fully appreciated. 2-26 against a team who beat both mayo and galway, despite taking 20 minutes off in the second half. Absolutely magnificent. Paddy small second half was incredible. His last point in the final minutes of the game was worth the admission fee alone. Hard to see last the dubs, regardless of who wins out in the end, they're a truly spectacular special team. Savage. Onto the next one"

Do you want a pat on the back? When you consider the metrics you should be this good and in 5/10 years you should be better.

Game2Halves: "Tyrone are Dublins biggest threat to 5 in a row. They were excellent today. Easily second best team in the country right now. Next week though I would say Tyrone might rest a few top names. They have come through a mammoth number of games and it doesn't make sense to throw on all the full cavalry for a dead rubber. Just like the Donegal game, the players need to rest up to focus on the real prize. Throwing everything at Dublin in Omagh makes no sense. Dublin will win in Omagh but this wont hurt the red hands as we will be waiting in the long grass later."

I would have massive respect for Harte if he goes with sense over pride. Throw out a completely different 15 get hammered by Dublin and rest the main players. Have the first 15 doing a tough training session the Friday before, recovery/gym sat Sunday and then a serious session Monday. Don't let this meaningless match disrupt your preparation for the semi final. It's what meath should have done for the Leinster final."
Your posts actually make me cringe. A replica Sam? My God haha!

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 20/07/2019 23:27:09    2213785

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Replying To ke40:  "And people giving out about the Leinster championship, Dublin will wipe the floor with any team in ireland"
What makes you say that?

Dublin are a great side but what happened to Roscommon & Meath happened because the players in those teams never really believed they could win. Go into any game believing that the other team is light years ahead of you & a tanking is what you are going to get.

Dublin are human like everyone else & can be beaten.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 20/07/2019 23:31:00    2213787

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Replying To lilypad:  "You know its great to he optimistic but i genuinely feel for the rossies in this one. Mother of all hidings on the way and a trip home pondering was it worth winning connaught at all"
And they took it easy on you in that 2nd half no question about it and ive never seen them do that, teachers pet

lilypad (Kildare) - Posts: 1363 - 20/07/2019 23:34:02    2213790

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Replying To essmac:  "Hi Joe!

Heading for 5 in a row - and still bitter?

https://www.dublinlive.ie/sport/dublin-more-defensive-ever-says-14917194

I'd say six in a row won't be a problem either. Meanwhile, enjoy the view from your high horse."
Bitter? Where? Just an honest view. That's what this forum is about isn't it?

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 20/07/2019 23:38:08    2213792

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Replying To brisbane:  "If the Rossies had got Dublin in the first game in the Hyde it would have been way more competitive. The Rossies had nothing to play for in reality. Dublin are a team made for croke park but if they were in the Hyde it wouldnt be so easy. Provincial grounds would not suit Dublin."
What's this Dublin team's record like in provincial grounds though?

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 20/07/2019 23:39:31    2213793

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