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Empty stadiums and big beatings. The super eights are going as well as last year's

Thelonesomegoose (Leitrim) - Posts: 204 - 20/07/2019 20:47:58    2213678

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Replying To sam1884:  "Trolling was not my intention, I like to think I have knowledge of football. The evidence so far today shows I was correct without putting much effort into my thinking :) Roscommon are indeed out of their depth at this stage of the Championship."
They were out of their depth today against Dublin as most teams would be in Croke Park. A highly fancied Tyrone team beat them by 4 points and Roscommon are in the Super 8s on merit, best team in the Connacht Championship 2019.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7959 - 20/07/2019 20:52:23    2213681

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Replying To Whammo86:  "My god what a pessimistic post.

I'd be shocked if there were more than 3 points in every game you mention.

Cork, Meath, Roscommon have all earned the right to be here and play the top teams.

If they are to progress they have to play the best at some stage."
GAA fans don't like to pessimistic as we love our sports but the the Super 8's predictability is hard to watch as it's making football a laughing stock.

Fair play to the GAA for thinking outside the box but it can't continue. There simply isn't 8 top teams at the minute to make this work. What's the point with the problems facing clubs of Roscommon treking to Cork in two weeks or Dublin treking upto Omagh? I'm not sure of the solution but the Championship needs to rotate back to pre Super 8's in 2020 whilst a system is found that has at least some interest. If they insist in having a group system then maybe a Super 4 could be trialled instead but the Super 8 concept has failed.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 20/07/2019 21:36:22    2213712

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The form guide suggests the following semi-finals:
Kerry v Tyrone
Croke Park v Mayo or Donegal

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8772 - 21/07/2019 18:32:15    2214142

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The form guide suggests it will be:

Dublin vs The place the far side of Lucan.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4515 - 21/07/2019 18:52:28    2214166

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "Looks like it will be decided in Castlebar who will get trounced by Dublin in the semi final, ourselves or Mayo, Mayo and Kerry to win tomorrow, Mayo by 5, Kerry by 3.
other side will be Kerry v Tyrone semi final, should be interesting but expect Kerry to beat them, so the final will be the GAA's fav pairing, Dublin v Kerry,"
Tirchonaill, you are a very strange Donegal supporter indeed & probably wrote Donegal off in 2014 as well.

Your sort of negativity is a pain,

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 21/07/2019 23:26:46    2214413

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Replying To sam1884:  "Trolling was not my intention, I like to think I have knowledge of football. The evidence so far today shows I was correct without putting much effort into my thinking :) Roscommon are indeed out of their depth at this stage of the Championship."
Got there on merit. We have huge work to bridge the gap with Dublin the best team of all time only but as Cunningham said we won't be throwing in the towel ..the easy thing to do. Now you get back to the cricket celebrations let a good lad and tune into the premiership when it starts.

moros (Roscommon) - Posts: 1136 - 21/07/2019 23:30:58    2214416

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Replying To legendzxix:  "The form guide suggests the following semi-finals:
Kerry v Tyrone
Croke Park v Mayo or Donegal"
Dublin v Donegal , Kerry v Tyrone,
Dublin v Kerry
GOAT.

steve097 (Dublin) - Posts: 109 - 22/07/2019 00:32:58    2214434

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Fancy Tyrone to defeat Dublin in Omagh now, which would leave them finished top of Group 2.

This is on the back of the lads Mickey keeps springing from the bench. Even though Donegal and Kerry have seemingly good squad depth, I do genuinely feel that Tyrone have more experience to introduce in the heat of the battle, and will have learned from last years defeat in Omagh and this years victory in the league. For example the 5 subs on Sat were Hampsey, R Donnelly, Cassidy, Mc Cann & Mc Aliskey. Their injuries all seem to be clearing up, in contrast to Mayo, Kerry & Donegal. If Mc Shane, Donnelly, Sludden & Petie Harte keep producing their current form, all Tyrone need to do, is get the ball into them. (Sounds all very simple, I know)

This would also mean that the potential All Ireland semis would be :

Dublin v Kerry
Tyrone v Mayo/Donegal

green and gold (Donegal) - Posts: 105 - 22/07/2019 14:29:24    2214734

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Replying To green and gold:  "Fancy Tyrone to defeat Dublin in Omagh now, which would leave them finished top of Group 2.

This is on the back of the lads Mickey keeps springing from the bench. Even though Donegal and Kerry have seemingly good squad depth, I do genuinely feel that Tyrone have more experience to introduce in the heat of the battle, and will have learned from last years defeat in Omagh and this years victory in the league. For example the 5 subs on Sat were Hampsey, R Donnelly, Cassidy, Mc Cann & Mc Aliskey. Their injuries all seem to be clearing up, in contrast to Mayo, Kerry & Donegal. If Mc Shane, Donnelly, Sludden & Petie Harte keep producing their current form, all Tyrone need to do, is get the ball into them. (Sounds all very simple, I know)

This would also mean that the potential All Ireland semis would be :

Dublin v Kerry
Tyrone v Mayo/Donegal"
Citing the league win is giving a false perspective. Forget it.

steve097 (Dublin) - Posts: 109 - 22/07/2019 14:50:56    2214748

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Replying To green and gold:  "Fancy Tyrone to defeat Dublin in Omagh now, which would leave them finished top of Group 2.

This is on the back of the lads Mickey keeps springing from the bench. Even though Donegal and Kerry have seemingly good squad depth, I do genuinely feel that Tyrone have more experience to introduce in the heat of the battle, and will have learned from last years defeat in Omagh and this years victory in the league. For example the 5 subs on Sat were Hampsey, R Donnelly, Cassidy, Mc Cann & Mc Aliskey. Their injuries all seem to be clearing up, in contrast to Mayo, Kerry & Donegal. If Mc Shane, Donnelly, Sludden & Petie Harte keep producing their current form, all Tyrone need to do, is get the ball into them. (Sounds all very simple, I know)

This would also mean that the potential All Ireland semis would be :

Dublin v Kerry
Tyrone v Mayo/Donegal"
I reckon Tryone will be happy not to beat Dublin. If they do have a gameplan for beating them why employ it now?

Dublin will only learn from them and tweak things for next meeting. Can't see anything except a Dublin win.

Al_Maguire (Donegal) - Posts: 259 - 22/07/2019 16:04:35    2214803

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Replying To Al_Maguire:  "I reckon Tryone will be happy not to beat Dublin. If they do have a gameplan for beating them why employ it now?

Dublin will only learn from them and tweak things for next meeting. Can't see anything except a Dublin win."
Because you need to know that it works.! If this was Dublin coming to Ballybofey for the last game in similar circumstances, I would not be happy with Donegal forfeiting the result. I'm sure all the top county coaches have alternative systems and plans (B, C, D & E) that they would wish to try out against their rivals, in the safe knowledge that there is a safety net...do you not think Dublin will want to give away anything either?

green and gold (Donegal) - Posts: 105 - 22/07/2019 16:47:04    2214829

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Neither side will play a first 15 when they are out 6 and 7 days later when the 3 possible oponents are probably of similar ability.
I expect tyrone to get a bit of a whooping in what will be mainly second sides, and no ones b team is better than the dubs.

OhtobeARossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 1792 - 22/07/2019 18:00:48    2214869

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I reckon Mickey will be out with the white line rollers again looking to reduce the area of the pitch to that of a matchbox, hoping that this will make the task of packing the defence even easier and forcing the Dubs to shoot from distance. I can't see Gavin making sweeping changes. He'll want to win, as a loss may mentally disrupt them but he will also want to maintain rhythm and momentum. He may make a couple of tweaks, any of Fenton, Howard, Jack and Kilkenny may not start. I think both teams will go for it. No point in trying to play for first or second. You're going to have to beat both top teams in the other group anyway to win Sam.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4742 - 22/07/2019 18:18:51    2214877

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Donegal, Tyrone, Mayo and Kerry are going well to be fair. There's that gap then that everyone is talking about.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8772 - 22/07/2019 18:27:06    2214883

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Replying To Joxer:  "I reckon Mickey will be out with the white line rollers again looking to reduce the area of the pitch to that of a matchbox, hoping that this will make the task of packing the defence even easier and forcing the Dubs to shoot from distance. I can't see Gavin making sweeping changes. He'll want to win, as a loss may mentally disrupt them but he will also want to maintain rhythm and momentum. He may make a couple of tweaks, any of Fenton, Howard, Jack and Kilkenny may not start. I think both teams will go for it. No point in trying to play for first or second. You're going to have to beat both top teams in the other group anyway to win Sam."
I agree. A defeat for either team will mess with the pschy. If Dublin loose in the championship it might hurt this invincible aura about them . Tyrone will get disheartened too by a defeat at home . Both teams will go for it . Tyrone get a well deserved break this weekend having played an unbelievable five weeks in a row and all away games which is mental . One thing they'll be fit and conditioned. I think we are better than last year's final but by looks of it so are Dublin though neither have been really tested this year so far in all honesty . They'll both get a very quick shock when the match starts and the increased intensity levels kick in. If we can play as well as Donegal did , patient and accurate them we might avoid a hammering

RedHand_Pastyface (Tyrone) - Posts: 16 - 22/07/2019 19:00:26    2214904

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This is probably as close to a friendly as you can get. If Donegal and Kerry are through I don't think there's any advantage to finishing top of the group. If Mayo beat Donegal, maybe it is worth winning to avoid Kerry.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4518 - 22/07/2019 19:03:52    2214906

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The 42 conducted a poll and asked should the super 8's be in neutral venues between the counties. Almost 4,000 votes and 91% said yes. I think everyone is rowing in behind this even the Dubs.

My only issue is Croker after the leinster final shouldn't be used for football until the semi finals. No super 8 matches there. Nobody allowed to nominate it. Dublin can choose parnell or if they care about their fans they can nominate navan, Tullamore or portlaoise. The same for the league. Only league finals should be allowed or a match on paddy's weekend. This might finally convince the Dubs to build a suitable stadium.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 22/07/2019 21:47:26    2214996

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Donegal, Tyrone, Mayo and Kerry are going well to be fair. There's that gap then that everyone is talking about."
Yea Right -:)

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2842 - 22/07/2019 22:34:14    2215025

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Replying To OhtobeARossie:  "Neither side will play a first 15 when they are out 6 and 7 days later when the 3 possible oponents are probably of similar ability.
I expect tyrone to get a bit of a whooping in what will be mainly second sides, and no ones b team is better than the dubs."
If you think for one minute that Mickey Harte is going to put out a B team to take a whooping from Dublin in Omagh then you don't know much about either Harte or Tyrone people.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 22/07/2019 23:27:04    2215041

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