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Messi or Ronaldo? Federer or Nadal? But the big one is who is better and more influential, Joe or Tj? tribesman125 (Galway) - Posts: 173 - 14/06/2019 13:12:14 2194820 Link 0 |
waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 14/06/2019 13:45:06 2194833 Link 1 |
KickItInLad (Galway) - Posts: 9 - 14/06/2019 13:47:43 2194835 Link 0 |
It doesnt matter if you are black or white
woops (Kerry) - Posts: 2073 - 14/06/2019 13:50:48 2194837 Link 0 |
It's TJ now but Joe's not as dominant as he was due to maturing young and so much mileage. Joe circa 2010 and TJ now is a fair argument. Id be 50/50 on that one PressureKick (UK) - Posts: 206 - 14/06/2019 14:07:39 2194854 Link 0 |
TJ over the last 3-4 years.... earlier in careers joe was better than TJ. overthehill72 (Meath) - Posts: 334 - 14/06/2019 14:27:02 2194860 Link 0 |
Schools must be finishing up for summer! SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 14/06/2019 14:43:39 2194873 Link 0 |
A few years ago I'd have said Joe as I felt TJ had had it too easy coming up but I think it's almost a reversal now. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13692 - 14/06/2019 14:44:13 2194874 Link 2 |
At his best Joe.He's past his best now. endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2141 - 14/06/2019 15:03:56 2194882 Link 0 |
Them days are long gone for me I'm afraid my friend. The reason I bring it up is because cheddar plunket on the gaa hour hailed Tj as better than both Shefflin and DJ. So I was curious as to who people thought was better from he's two greats that are still playing.
tribesman125 (Galway) - Posts: 173 - 14/06/2019 15:04:21 2194883 Link 1 |
Right now Tj. Overall Joe Canning. Canning has not only won at every level he participated in but also was THE MAN on every team. Tj had Shefflin and others to grow under when he first got on the Senior team whereas Joe was the man right away. Joe also plays on a non "Big 3" team which makes a lot of his accomplishments all the more incredible. Either guy is a legend in my books and any team would be honored and lucky to have them. Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2100 - 14/06/2019 15:04:49 2194884 Link 0 |
TJ for now based on what we have seen so far. Seems to have it all. WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 14/06/2019 15:33:22 2194895 Link 0 |
Fair enough. For the record it was the Messi v Ronaldo bit.
SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 14/06/2019 15:49:37 2194903 Link 0 |
gaelicgab (USA) - Posts: 878 - 14/06/2019 15:55:20 2194906 Link 0 |
Over their careers Joe. TJ worked and worked on his game. BliainanÁir (Laois) - Posts: 598 - 14/06/2019 16:13:30 2194911 Link 0 |
Two great players.Nothing between them in my opinion. Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 14/06/2019 16:20:27 2194914 Link 0 |
Joe 'circa 2012' was a lot fitter for the fray than Joe anytime prior to 2012, imo. He looked a different animal in 2012, in AC's first year at the helm. Arguably wasn't fit enough, until the penny dropped for him before that 2012 season. He's been top notch since, or at least has himself primed physically to be top notch. Interesting that you'd say he peaked in 2010, and I'd say he wasn't even fit in 2010, at least relative to his post 2011 fitness/physique, or even relative to his current fitness level at age 30/31.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3395 - 14/06/2019 17:18:13 2194937 Link 1 |
There's an old thread on this and below is my take on it which I stand by. Noel Mcgrath even incl his move to midfield and his health issues a fews years ago averages more from play than either. Their free taking is huge but they don't always contribute the same from play as what they did when they were younger players tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 14/06/2019 18:21:00 2194968 Link 0 |
People saying Joe overall but TJ last 3 years is baffling to say the least! I'm guessing these people have only seen KK once or twice in the last 3 years? tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 14/06/2019 18:25:18 2194971 Link 1 |
TJ Reid is more of an out and out scorer for Kilkenny. Joe Canning has turned into more of a playmaker out the field. They are different types of player. Both brilliant though and good examples to young hurlers in every county. Though I think the talent and vision they have couldnt be coached. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11478 - 14/06/2019 19:46:46 2195017 Link 0 |