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Replying To Pikeman96: "I'm not making any excuse. I simply asked how could any government have planned ahead for an unexpected influx of 80,000 people due to a war thousands of miles away. You haven't answered.
But let's look at the figures in a different way -
Before the first Ukranian arrived, there were 10,000 homeless. Now there are 17,000. That's an increase of 7,000.
Since then, probably somewhere around 100,000 people have needed accommodation - more than 80,000 Ukranians, plus whatever number arrived from other countries, plus whatever number of native Irish people applied for it.
If the rise in homelessness figures is 7,000 then that means that approx. 93,000 people have been accommodated.
Is is not a good result to have been able to accommodate 93% of people who've needed it, particularly when 80,000 of them were never expected in the first place?" No point in spoiling the narrative with actual facts.
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 2222 - 17/04/2026 10:25:57
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Replying To Pikeman96: "I'm not making any excuse. I simply asked how could any government have planned ahead for an unexpected influx of 80,000 people due to a war thousands of miles away. You haven't answered.
But let's look at the figures in a different way -
Before the first Ukranian arrived, there were 10,000 homeless. Now there are 17,000. That's an increase of 7,000.
Since then, probably somewhere around 100,000 people have needed accommodation - more than 80,000 Ukranians, plus whatever number arrived from other countries, plus whatever number of native Irish people applied for it.
If the rise in homelessness figures is 7,000 then that means that approx. 93,000 people have been accommodated.
Is is not a good result to have been able to accommodate 93% of people who've needed it, particularly when 80,000 of them were never expected in the first place?" Whatever way we look at the stats we have a chronic housing stock shortage, which is resulting in supply driven property price increases.
Sadly for those who are homeless they are at the pointy end of the housing shortage.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19238 - 17/04/2026 10:51:10
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Replying To Pikeman96: "I'm not making any excuse. I simply asked how could any government have planned ahead for an unexpected influx of 80,000 people due to a war thousands of miles away. You haven't answered.
But let's look at the figures in a different way -
Before the first Ukranian arrived, there were 10,000 homeless. Now there are 17,000. That's an increase of 7,000.
Since then, probably somewhere around 100,000 people have needed accommodation - more than 80,000 Ukranians, plus whatever number arrived from other countries, plus whatever number of native Irish people applied for it.
If the rise in homelessness figures is 7,000 then that means that approx. 93,000 people have been accommodated.
Is is not a good result to have been able to accommodate 93% of people who've needed it, particularly when 80,000 of them were never expected in the first place?" You're spoofing more than the spin doctors themselves.
We still had 10000 homeless before the War whatever way you look at it or try to explain it away. Also, that figure doesn't take into account the thousands of young people who still have to live at home or worse still emigrate because they can't afford to buy a house/appartment here. What's their solution to this? Bed in a Shed - laughable!
Can you spin that one for us? And while you're at it the Childrens Hospital debacle as well please as requested in my last post?
peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1554 - 17/04/2026 11:12:34
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Replying To Freethinker: "No point in spoiling the narrative with actual facts." 5000 homeless children in the state is fact enough for me.
peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1554 - 17/04/2026 11:13:43
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Replying To Viking66: "Whatever way we look at the stats we have a chronic housing stock shortage, which is resulting in supply driven property price increases.
Sadly for those who are homeless they are at the pointy end of the housing shortage." And it will likely get worse. Already hearing concrete, insulation, timber, steel has crept up in price.
We can only hope that the Lebanese/Israeli ceasefire leads to a similar cooling of tensions between the US and Iran.
These past few months have really fully illustrated just how beholden we remain to oil and fossil fuels.
Almost everything we consume in our day to day lives is reliant on stable supply.
Might be a wake up call for us all to really get serious about renewable energy but I wouldn't hold my breath on that.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 10297 - 17/04/2026 11:24:12
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Replying To Pikeman96: "I'm not making any excuse. I simply asked how could any government have planned ahead for an unexpected influx of 80,000 people due to a war thousands of miles away. You haven't answered.
But let's look at the figures in a different way -
Before the first Ukranian arrived, there were 10,000 homeless. Now there are 17,000. That's an increase of 7,000.
Since then, probably somewhere around 100,000 people have needed accommodation - more than 80,000 Ukranians, plus whatever number arrived from other countries, plus whatever number of native Irish people applied for it.
If the rise in homelessness figures is 7,000 then that means that approx. 93,000 people have been accommodated.
Is is not a good result to have been able to accommodate 93% of people who've needed it, particularly when 80,000 of them were never expected in the first place?" Housing homeless Irish families should have been the priority, and that wasn't the case and thus why people are ****** off at the Government. Irish homeless families waiting lists were navigated by property owners and hotel owners etc, in favour of more lucrative Ukrainian refugee deals with the Government.
Housing 93% of 100,000 people is a great feat, but only if you have Irish citizens getting priority.
Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1742 - 17/04/2026 12:00:52
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