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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "Did Billy Dunne play in the league for Wexford? Can't say I remember him playing off the top of my head but could be mistaken"
I would need to check the programs but I am 99% sure he was in Darragh Egan's panel.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4354 - 25/03/2026 12:47:02    2663069

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Replying To MyOhMi:  "John Quigley is Eoin's father

Pat Doran is prob the last Wexford player to score a hat-trick of goals for Wexford Seniors in NHL before Jack Redmond last weekend!"
Thinks that was pat kenny v carlow in league,same club

theboys (Wexford) - Posts: 298 - 25/03/2026 14:20:57    2663096

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What relation was Ciarán Kenny to Pat Kenny and Bobby Kenny?

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1007 - 25/03/2026 14:40:44    2663110

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "I would need to check the programs but I am 99% sure he was in Darragh Egan's panel."
Billy Dunne was named in the subs for a couple of Walsh Cup matches during Egan's first year in charge (2022). Can't remember if he actually played in either of those matches.

He wasn't named then in any of the League programmes that year, and while I haven't checked 2023, I don't recall him being back then or any other time either.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3442 - 25/03/2026 15:06:43    2663118

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "I would need to check the programs but I am 99% sure he was in Darragh Egan's panel."
He was, in 2022, and did ok against Laois and Dublin I thought. Didn't play in the League though, not sure why he wasnt on the panel, as in whether he was dropped or left it.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18938 - 25/03/2026 15:07:33    2663119

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Simon Donohoe played a few games for the footballers about ten years ago. But off the top of my head, can't think of any others."
Another Shels man Glen Malone is still playing with the Footballers and was with the hurlers for a while under Davy, he hurled Senior against Kilkenny. Daithi Waters was likewise a Footballer who tried intercounty hurling for a short while. Another Martins lad on the Hurling panel and who was on the Football panel last year is Eoin O'Leary.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18938 - 25/03/2026 15:32:18    2663131

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Replying To Viking66:  "Another Shels man Glen Malone is still playing with the Footballers and was with the hurlers for a while under Davy, he hurled Senior against Kilkenny. Daithi Waters was likewise a Footballer who tried intercounty hurling for a short while. Another Martins lad on the Hurling panel and who was on the Football panel last year is Eoin O'Leary."
You're a better man than me for remembering such things!!

They're mainly short-lived and cameo-type examples - e.g. that match against Kilkenny was the one and only time Glen Malone played for the hurlers. Likewise, Daithi Waters had only one year with the hurlers, and absolutely no disrespect to him, but Eoin O'Leary hasn't ever been what you'd call an established regular in either code.

Still, being part of both panels for even a short while means they're all dual inter-county players. Which is far above anything I ever managed to achieve myself!

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3442 - 25/03/2026 23:35:28    2663244

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "You're a better man than me for remembering such things!!

They're mainly short-lived and cameo-type examples - e.g. that match against Kilkenny was the one and only time Glen Malone played for the hurlers. Likewise, Daithi Waters had only one year with the hurlers, and absolutely no disrespect to him, but Eoin O'Leary hasn't ever been what you'd call an established regular in either code.

Still, being part of both panels for even a short while means they're all dual inter-county players. Which is far above anything I ever managed to achieve myself!"
Or me :-D

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18938 - 26/03/2026 11:06:12    2663282

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Just on dual players how many times over the years . Have established footballers been approached to join up with the hurlers . Ye have just named several.in last 5 years .
What does that say to lads who have thrown their whole lot into the hurling hat . Only to be sidelined for someone brought in who possibly just got flattered I to thinking they wre good enough .
I keep hearing choose one or the other . Is that unless we decide you know what he has lot of attributes let's see if we can get him to jump ship sure if dint work.out so be it what we have in back up are nt really up to it anyway .
So much for you got to choose early and stick to it .
Did nt Galvin drop couple players and they were then drafted straight into hurling Walsh Cup team squad ahead of other squad members

By the way not many do make that transition easily or are successful. .

Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 561 - 26/03/2026 13:51:47    2663329

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Replying To Formertownie:  "Just on dual players how many times over the years . Have established footballers been approached to join up with the hurlers . Ye have just named several.in last 5 years .
What does that say to lads who have thrown their whole lot into the hurling hat . Only to be sidelined for someone brought in who possibly just got flattered I to thinking they wre good enough .
I keep hearing choose one or the other . Is that unless we decide you know what he has lot of attributes let's see if we can get him to jump ship sure if dint work.out so be it what we have in back up are nt really up to it anyway .
So much for you got to choose early and stick to it .
Did nt Galvin drop couple players and they were then drafted straight into hurling Walsh Cup team squad ahead of other squad members

By the way not many do make that transition easily or are successful. ."
No most havent been successful. I think by the time a fella is in his mid 20s he should know what hes best at, or if not best at at least what he prefers doing 5 days a week.
I still think it helps any player to get better at a particular sport at elite level if he specialises in it earlier. U14 is probably about right.
Specialising at elite level at u14 up also helps prevent burnout, physical and mental. If a lad was to be dual intercounty so 3 or 4, or 6, training sessions/games a week depending on whether he is u14/5 or u16/minor, dual club training/games 3 times a week, maybe soccer and/or rugby as well, he is definitely going to be doing way too much. Mentally and Physically.
As regards the competition between Wexford underage hurling and football powers that be for young players, with the hope that they develop into elite senior intercounty footballers or hurlers, its all starting to get a little counter productive. Childish even. I heard a reason why we have around half the minor football panel still u16. I really really hope it isnt true.
Maybe its time County Board appointed someone neutral to oversee player selection from u16 upwards. And maybe bring in a rule that our county underage teams should have no more than a certain number of players not up to the age. Its all very well saying a couple of years at minor will help elite players develop better or faster, but at what cost? What about the up to the age cohort who then get discarded? And how "elite" do these lads need to be? If they were truly elite then collectively they would manage more than 9 shots at the posts in an hours play.
Minors are basically 16 year olds, none of them will be physically fully developed, alot wont even have stopped growing. Some will only be starting to hit PHV at that age. So how can a lad or group of lads determine that there's no point putting more time into developing these up to the age lads, in favour of giving an extra year to lads who are even younger and even less proven commodities?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18938 - 26/03/2026 15:01:04    2663347

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Replying To Viking66:  "No most havent been successful. I think by the time a fella is in his mid 20s he should know what hes best at, or if not best at at least what he prefers doing 5 days a week.
I still think it helps any player to get better at a particular sport at elite level if he specialises in it earlier. U14 is probably about right.
Specialising at elite level at u14 up also helps prevent burnout, physical and mental. If a lad was to be dual intercounty so 3 or 4, or 6, training sessions/games a week depending on whether he is u14/5 or u16/minor, dual club training/games 3 times a week, maybe soccer and/or rugby as well, he is definitely going to be doing way too much. Mentally and Physically.
As regards the competition between Wexford underage hurling and football powers that be for young players, with the hope that they develop into elite senior intercounty footballers or hurlers, its all starting to get a little counter productive. Childish even. I heard a reason why we have around half the minor football panel still u16. I really really hope it isnt true.
Maybe its time County Board appointed someone neutral to oversee player selection from u16 upwards. And maybe bring in a rule that our county underage teams should have no more than a certain number of players not up to the age. Its all very well saying a couple of years at minor will help elite players develop better or faster, but at what cost? What about the up to the age cohort who then get discarded? And how "elite" do these lads need to be? If they were truly elite then collectively they would manage more than 9 shots at the posts in an hours play.
Minors are basically 16 year olds, none of them will be physically fully developed, alot wont even have stopped growing. Some will only be starting to hit PHV at that age. So how can a lad or group of lads determine that there's no point putting more time into developing these up to the age lads, in favour of giving an extra year to lads who are even younger and even less proven commodities?"
You only have to look at the make up of last night's U20 football panel to realise that we have enough players in Wexford to compete at the highest levels football and hurling without looking for dual players. I think only 1 or 2 of that 20s panel played hurling for Wexford. They are fully committed to the football cause and we need that to ensure that is the norm from 14s up. So 40 plus players entering our football county squads every year who are there for the long haul. And if we allow dual players that will definitely not be the case. This year's minor football team had 18 dual players at U14 and there are actually more boys on the hurling minor squad this year from that years 14 football panel than are on the current football minor squad from the same 14s football panel..
That tells you everything you need to know that making them choose at 14s is better for both codes on the long term.

Paull (Wexford) - Posts: 254 - 26/03/2026 16:55:30    2663371

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Replying To Paull:  "You only have to look at the make up of last night's U20 football panel to realise that we have enough players in Wexford to compete at the highest levels football and hurling without looking for dual players. I think only 1 or 2 of that 20s panel played hurling for Wexford. They are fully committed to the football cause and we need that to ensure that is the norm from 14s up. So 40 plus players entering our football county squads every year who are there for the long haul. And if we allow dual players that will definitely not be the case. This year's minor football team had 18 dual players at U14 and there are actually more boys on the hurling minor squad this year from that years 14 football panel than are on the current football minor squad from the same 14s football panel..
That tells you everything you need to know that making them choose at 14s is better for both codes on the long term."
Completely agree with this.

I also completely agree with Vikings point about someone needs to be appointed to oversee whats going on from u14 up from a neutral point of view who's sole remit is to look after the development of fhe kids as best possible in both sports equally.

Everyone is just pulling in their own direction, there's far too much division setting in and some of this is fhe fault of the Co Board themselves by the way. It serves no one.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1631 - 27/03/2026 09:08:57    2663425

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Replying To tearintom:  "Completely agree with this.

I also completely agree with Vikings point about someone needs to be appointed to oversee whats going on from u14 up from a neutral point of view who's sole remit is to look after the development of fhe kids as best possible in both sports equally.

Everyone is just pulling in their own direction, there's far too much division setting in and some of this is fhe fault of the Co Board themselves by the way. It serves no one."
Its very difficult to look after both camps equally. Its down to money. If you are to give both camps everything they " need" to be as successful as possible its very expensive. Im not sure many, if any, counties look after both the same. I know that in Limerick, in spite of all the JP gossip, that they are definitely treated the same. The football squads are treated decently but it pales in comparison to how the hurlers are treated. So much so that they try to avoid having them overlap at a training venue.

Tadhg2020 (Limerick) - Posts: 133 - 27/03/2026 11:20:41    2663450

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Replying To Tadhg2020:  "Its very difficult to look after both camps equally. Its down to money. If you are to give both camps everything they " need" to be as successful as possible its very expensive. Im not sure many, if any, counties look after both the same. I know that in Limerick, in spite of all the JP gossip, that they are definitely treated the same. The football squads are treated decently but it pales in comparison to how the hurlers are treated. So much so that they try to avoid having them overlap at a training venue."
The point is that we do treat both pretty equally down here though these days, certainly in a financial sense. They all have pretty much the same access to supports provided by County Board, Food, Gear, Athletic Development etc.
The Footballers actually have larger squad numbers than the hurlers relative to the number of boys who trial for each at each age group at underage. But way more lads want to be part of Hurling setups than Football ones.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18938 - 27/03/2026 13:09:34    2663468

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For every hurling first county there are 2 football first counties .
If its acceptable in any county to treat one above the other surely the only loser is the growth of hurling .
At present its hard to see any county bar top 5 or 6 ever making the breakthrough on hurling again tp yep table znd all ireland success .
Munster hurling is turning into the elitist league ahead of leinster .
Does hurling really want to become predictable and repetitive every year .
There has to be compromise on both sides to try grow both codes especially hurling in the less traditional counties can this happen when some stringer hurling counties look down their nose at other traditional counties never mind football.
Trying to squeeze the life out of each other wont help .
You cant but admire lads in any county that put their all into the lesser code in any county . Massive effort gor very little recognition or reward that's just a given and whether fair or not its never going to change.
2 codes same umbrella let's not promote other sports with our obsession of one been better thsn the other

Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 561 - 27/03/2026 13:38:25    2663478

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Replying To Viking66:  "The point is that we do treat both pretty equally down here though these days, certainly in a financial sense. They all have pretty much the same access to supports provided by County Board, Food, Gear, Athletic Development etc.
The Footballers actually have larger squad numbers than the hurlers relative to the number of boys who trial for each at each age group at underage. But way more lads want to be part of Hurling setups than Football ones."
They dont get anything near the same treatment in Limerick unfortunately. As a result the football squads rarely have the best 35 footballers available in any age grade. I suppose they are the best 35 that want to play football for limerick and the trials are well attended but there are always guys who drop out for soccer/rugby/basketball even. That doesnt happen in hurling. Its the small differences that matter the most to the young lads. The hurlers get extra gear and dont have to contribute/ fundraiser. The football squads have to pay 100 euro or raise it through sponsorship and do a walk. The hurlers train and the canteen is laid out like a restaurant with fresh fruit, yoghurt, cartons of milk as well as the meal and water. The footballers get the meal and water to take home. Different caterers too. These small things mount up. Tbf the S+C, physio/medical and support staff are just as good or appear to be but there is that status given to hurlers that makes them feel special that isnt afforded to football.
Good luck with trying to achieve that in Wexford. Its very difficult. Your county board have to be fully on board and extremely patient as it will be a while before any success if ever.

Tadhg2020 (Limerick) - Posts: 133 - 27/03/2026 14:09:33    2663484

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Replying To Formertownie:  "For every hurling first county there are 2 football first counties .
If its acceptable in any county to treat one above the other surely the only loser is the growth of hurling .
At present its hard to see any county bar top 5 or 6 ever making the breakthrough on hurling again tp yep table znd all ireland success .
Munster hurling is turning into the elitist league ahead of leinster .
Does hurling really want to become predictable and repetitive every year .
There has to be compromise on both sides to try grow both codes especially hurling in the less traditional counties can this happen when some stringer hurling counties look down their nose at other traditional counties never mind football.
Trying to squeeze the life out of each other wont help .
You cant but admire lads in any county that put their all into the lesser code in any county . Massive effort gor very little recognition or reward that's just a given and whether fair or not its never going to change.
2 codes same umbrella let's not promote other sports with our obsession of one been better thsn the other"
There's no mountain unclimbable.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18938 - 27/03/2026 14:09:34    2663485

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Replying To Formertownie:  "For every hurling first county there are 2 football first counties .
If its acceptable in any county to treat one above the other surely the only loser is the growth of hurling .
At present its hard to see any county bar top 5 or 6 ever making the breakthrough on hurling again tp yep table znd all ireland success .
Munster hurling is turning into the elitist league ahead of leinster .
Does hurling really want to become predictable and repetitive every year .
There has to be compromise on both sides to try grow both codes especially hurling in the less traditional counties can this happen when some stringer hurling counties look down their nose at other traditional counties never mind football.
Trying to squeeze the life out of each other wont help .
You cant but admire lads in any county that put their all into the lesser code in any county . Massive effort gor very little recognition or reward that's just a given and whether fair or not its never going to change.
2 codes same umbrella let's not promote other sports with our obsession of one been better thsn the other"
I agree with everything you said there. I just dont see any of it happening any time soon. County Boards exist to protect and promote their counties interest. They aren't responsible for other counties and its a difficult sell to any county board to act against their own self interest for some greater good type initiative.
On the dual player/sport point at the end. This really vexes me. Ive been involved in gaa in 3 counties in my lifetime ( limerick, Dublin and Roscommon). I lived in kerry for a while also and coached teams thst played in the Galway championships and leagues. Every one of those places with the exception of Dublin are/were totally against dual players and 2 codes. The same people and clubs/county boards have no problem with dual sports when the second sport is soccer/rugby/ basketball etc but when its hurling or football its a big no. Its so hypocritical and it goes right over all of their heads. Its the principal reason why nothing that you have said will ever happen. Neither side want it to.

Tadhg2020 (Limerick) - Posts: 133 - 27/03/2026 14:18:55    2663488

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Replying To Tadhg2020:  "Its very difficult to look after both camps equally. Its down to money. If you are to give both camps everything they " need" to be as successful as possible its very expensive. Im not sure many, if any, counties look after both the same. I know that in Limerick, in spite of all the JP gossip, that they are definitely treated the same. The football squads are treated decently but it pales in comparison to how the hurlers are treated. So much so that they try to avoid having them overlap at a training venue."
Do you actually mean that "in Limerick, in spite of all the JP gossip, that the are definitely not treated the same"? Just asking since you go on to say there's such a difference that they try to avoid even having both squads at the same venue.

It's genuinely the case here that our football squads get all the same supports as our hurling ones.

Yes, there were a few controversies a few years ago over things like "the Minor hurlers got training tops and other gear, but the Minor footballers didn't", but that was through what used to be a separate Supporters Club that wasn't actually part of official Wexford GAA at the time, and that "went rogue" a few times.

And while it used often be said at year end (and maybe still can be said sometimes) that "there was more money spent on the hurlers than the footballers", that was mainly because the hurlers were generally involved in competition for longer, at least up to the introduction of the group stage in the Tailteann Cup. The spend per week was roughly the same on both codes - just used to be the case that the hurlers were in action for more weeks.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3442 - 27/03/2026 14:29:04    2663491

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Do you actually mean that "in Limerick, in spite of all the JP gossip, that the are definitely not treated the same"? Just asking since you go on to say there's such a difference that they try to avoid even having both squads at the same venue.

It's genuinely the case here that our football squads get all the same supports as our hurling ones.

Yes, there were a few controversies a few years ago over things like "the Minor hurlers got training tops and other gear, but the Minor footballers didn't", but that was through what used to be a separate Supporters Club that wasn't actually part of official Wexford GAA at the time, and that "went rogue" a few times.

And while it used often be said at year end (and maybe still can be said sometimes) that "there was more money spent on the hurlers than the footballers", that was mainly because the hurlers were generally involved in competition for longer, at least up to the introduction of the group stage in the Tailteann Cup. The spend per week was roughly the same on both codes - just used to be the case that the hurlers were in action for more weeks."
Yes I do mean that. The footballers dont get treated badly or anything but the hurlers do get looked after a lot better.

Tadhg2020 (Limerick) - Posts: 133 - 27/03/2026 14:59:54    2663498

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