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Tomsmith here
I read that Davy Fitzgerald has indicated that he would like to have Referee engage in a post match discussion and explain ones reasoning for some decisions .
Davy Fitzgerald has proposed a formal post-game communication process between referees and management teams, one he believes would encourage accountability and understanding on both sides.
He added that GAA referees, like players and coaches, are under immense pressure, and that open dialogue would help build consistency across games:
It sounds a great idea and if supporters were allowed in like in the local Gaa Club or Community Centre it could be a great fundraiser and supporters would get to know the Gaa rules
tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 4120 - 30/10/2025 15:22:36
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Replying To tomsmith: "Tomsmith here
I read that Davy Fitzgerald has indicated that he would like to have Referee engage in a post match discussion and explain ones reasoning for some decisions .
Davy Fitzgerald has proposed a formal post-game communication process between referees and management teams, one he believes would encourage accountability and understanding on both sides.
He added that GAA referees, like players and coaches, are under immense pressure, and that open dialogue would help build consistency across games:
It sounds a great idea and if supporters were allowed in like in the local Gaa Club or Community Centre it could be a great fundraiser and supporters would get to know the Gaa rules" Supporters allowed in ? Carnage!
DUBJOHN (Dublin) - Posts: 945 - 31/10/2025 11:55:36
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Replying To DUBJOHN: "Supporters allowed in ? Carnage!" Methinks Tom is being mischievous with his suggestion :)
Whatever about Davy's suggestion of the referee accounting for some of his decisions to a private audience, the idea of throwing it open to all and sundry for a "debate" will never happen, and I strongly suspect even the bould Tom surely realises that!
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3204 - 31/10/2025 23:29:54
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All spur of the moment stuff for refs who have to make decisions instantly and are prone to mistakes like anyone else and would be easy enough watching it back on video to pick mistakes on refs part . Maybe you are allowed to question 2 decisions in writing rather than face to face and ref can decide if he wants to answer query . I m sure they wont be allowed publicly to admit mistskes as could cause seriois issues going forward .
All counties have refs just get your own refferee to analyse games and other refs and give their feedback as they see it . Theres that many in backroom teams surely 1 more being a ref briefing management and players on refs before games on each ref stats on certain aspects on games and how he interprets and refs same . Ie steps , handpassing , rucks etc u get the point .
If any intercounty team does nt do this already id be very surprised especially when the man in the middle can have such a huge bearing on any game .
Maybe a new rule where blatant diving or trying buy frees could be reviewed too and playrs get a tick for each intance and rack up 5 you get a 1 match ban .
Nothing as bad as watching a man diving around trying to buy frees or get a man sent off .
Might be a better idea to be allowed send a few specific instances and ask for clarification on the rule . Where there is genuine uncertainty not just a mistake by ref . Again it sometines comes down to certain refs interpretation of a rule .
Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 488 - 01/11/2025 12:53:00
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Replying To Formertownie: "All spur of the moment stuff for refs who have to make decisions instantly and are prone to mistakes like anyone else and would be easy enough watching it back on video to pick mistakes on refs part . Maybe you are allowed to question 2 decisions in writing rather than face to face and ref can decide if he wants to answer query . I m sure they wont be allowed publicly to admit mistskes as could cause seriois issues going forward .
All counties have refs just get your own refferee to analyse games and other refs and give their feedback as they see it . Theres that many in backroom teams surely 1 more being a ref briefing management and players on refs before games on each ref stats on certain aspects on games and how he interprets and refs same . Ie steps , handpassing , rucks etc u get the point .
If any intercounty team does nt do this already id be very surprised especially when the man in the middle can have such a huge bearing on any game .
Maybe a new rule where blatant diving or trying buy frees could be reviewed too and playrs get a tick for each intance and rack up 5 you get a 1 match ban .
Nothing as bad as watching a man diving around trying to buy frees or get a man sent off .
Might be a better idea to be allowed send a few specific instances and ask for clarification on the rule . Where there is genuine uncertainty not just a mistake by ref . Again it sometines comes down to certain refs interpretation of a rule ." Need to give Refs more help. 1 middle aged man running about a pitch trying to keep up with prime athletes just does not work anymore.
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2576 - 01/11/2025 15:29:29
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Replying To Bon: "Need to give Refs more help. 1 middle aged man running about a pitch trying to keep up with prime athletes just does not work anymore." In Fairness Bon most referees are not middle aged men anymore because of as you say of the superior fitness levels of players today.
lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 3058 - 04/11/2025 00:47:05
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Replying To Formertownie: "All spur of the moment stuff for refs who have to make decisions instantly and are prone to mistakes like anyone else and would be easy enough watching it back on video to pick mistakes on refs part . Maybe you are allowed to question 2 decisions in writing rather than face to face and ref can decide if he wants to answer query . I m sure they wont be allowed publicly to admit mistskes as could cause seriois issues going forward .
All counties have refs just get your own refferee to analyse games and other refs and give their feedback as they see it . Theres that many in backroom teams surely 1 more being a ref briefing management and players on refs before games on each ref stats on certain aspects on games and how he interprets and refs same . Ie steps , handpassing , rucks etc u get the point .
If any intercounty team does nt do this already id be very surprised especially when the man in the middle can have such a huge bearing on any game .
Maybe a new rule where blatant diving or trying buy frees could be reviewed too and playrs get a tick for each intance and rack up 5 you get a 1 match ban .
Nothing as bad as watching a man diving around trying to buy frees or get a man sent off .
Might be a better idea to be allowed send a few specific instances and ask for clarification on the rule . Where there is genuine uncertainty not just a mistake by ref . Again it sometines comes down to certain refs interpretation of a rule ." Yes referees need help to ref the game today. There are many aides that could be used from rules to technology, to two refs. Players now feeling a hand 5 inches from their head jerk back to get a free. Seeing a hurley on the ground fall over it. Institute a unsportsman like free on the field by a ref or some sanction after a review done on the day or later. If done later some sanction. Maybe a repeat in the same year a suspension. There are some things to be done helping officiate our games but the purists on here won't want anything. Neither would they want to go back to peaky caps and having a smoke while playing.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3205 - 05/11/2025 13:27:00
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Replying To Canuck: "Yes referees need help to ref the game today. There are many aides that could be used from rules to technology, to two refs. Players now feeling a hand 5 inches from their head jerk back to get a free. Seeing a hurley on the ground fall over it. Institute a unsportsman like free on the field by a ref or some sanction after a review done on the day or later. If done later some sanction. Maybe a repeat in the same year a suspension. There are some things to be done helping officiate our games but the purists on here won't want anything. Neither would they want to go back to peaky caps and having a smoke while playing." I'm not even allowed smoke when I'm not playing in some places Canuck!!!
Seriously though there should be retrospective lengthy bans for lads feigning injuries if there's video evidence. Its a sickening habit that's crept in.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17443 - 05/11/2025 15:34:24
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Replying To Viking66: "I'm not even allowed smoke when I'm not playing in some places Canuck!!!
Seriously though there should be retrospective lengthy bans for lads feigning injuries if there's video evidence. Its a sickening habit that's crept in." Fair play to Davy throwing in a few curveballs in the off season to keep himself relevant and promote ' irelands fittest family' while he's at it. Whereas there might be some merit to some of his points - in reality are we likely to ever see much change on these areas. He compares the GAA to NFL - there is no way the GAA would stump up the funds to effectively run semi professional Referee teams. The idea of refs being asked to clarify stuff - again is fine in theory but there would have to be a level playing field there. A ref sees something from an angle - makes a decision on that. a totally different TV angle may make a fool of a decision in good faith. and if referees are to be held to that level of scrutiny then players will also need to be also. so post match reviews of any and all disciplinary related events would have to be held. cant see many GAA heads supporting that!!
indaknownow (Offaly) - Posts: 118 - 05/11/2025 16:36:20
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Replying To indaknownow: "Fair play to Davy throwing in a few curveballs in the off season to keep himself relevant and promote ' irelands fittest family' while he's at it. Whereas there might be some merit to some of his points - in reality are we likely to ever see much change on these areas. He compares the GAA to NFL - there is no way the GAA would stump up the funds to effectively run semi professional Referee teams. The idea of refs being asked to clarify stuff - again is fine in theory but there would have to be a level playing field there. A ref sees something from an angle - makes a decision on that. a totally different TV angle may make a fool of a decision in good faith. and if referees are to be held to that level of scrutiny then players will also need to be also. so post match reviews of any and all disciplinary related events would have to be held. cant see many GAA heads supporting that!!" Would be alot of work for someone, or even a large group of someones, to oversee all that ok.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17443 - 05/11/2025 18:15:25
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Replying To Viking66: "I'm not even allowed smoke when I'm not playing in some places Canuck!!!
Seriously though there should be retrospective lengthy bans for lads feigning injuries if there's video evidence. Its a sickening habit that's crept in." Agree.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3205 - 05/11/2025 18:42:41
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Replying To indaknownow: "Fair play to Davy throwing in a few curveballs in the off season to keep himself relevant and promote ' irelands fittest family' while he's at it. Whereas there might be some merit to some of his points - in reality are we likely to ever see much change on these areas. He compares the GAA to NFL - there is no way the GAA would stump up the funds to effectively run semi professional Referee teams. The idea of refs being asked to clarify stuff - again is fine in theory but there would have to be a level playing field there. A ref sees something from an angle - makes a decision on that. a totally different TV angle may make a fool of a decision in good faith. and if referees are to be held to that level of scrutiny then players will also need to be also. so post match reviews of any and all disciplinary related events would have to be held. cant see many GAA heads supporting that!!" Yes and tv angles can be wrong. A camera following the play from behind. That is why the NHL use their own cameras and not tv. Sometimes the tv presentation will ask for the official camera view. They will give it some times to them. Not always. Great for shutting up analysts. The same would be great for our games. Realizing it is a much bigger area to cover but hopefully we'll get there some day.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3205 - 05/11/2025 18:51:26
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If players were more honest and acted like men it would make referees jobs a bit easier. Of course coaches are coaching to play on the edge and try tp buy frees by any means . . Think everyone involved has to look closely at themselves in that regard .
Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 488 - 05/11/2025 19:25:07
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Replying To Canuck: "Yes referees need help to ref the game today. There are many aides that could be used from rules to technology, to two refs. Players now feeling a hand 5 inches from their head jerk back to get a free. Seeing a hurley on the ground fall over it. Institute a unsportsman like free on the field by a ref or some sanction after a review done on the day or later. If done later some sanction. Maybe a repeat in the same year a suspension. There are some things to be done helping officiate our games but the purists on here won't want anything. Neither would they want to go back to peaky caps and having a smoke while playing." If you don't mind me saying so you have succeeded in putting together a string of nonsense.
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3296 - 05/11/2025 20:58:39
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Replying To tomsmith: "Tomsmith here
I read that Davy Fitzgerald has indicated that he would like to have Referee engage in a post match discussion and explain ones reasoning for some decisions .
Davy Fitzgerald has proposed a formal post-game communication process between referees and management teams, one he believes would encourage accountability and understanding on both sides.
He added that GAA referees, like players and coaches, are under immense pressure, and that open dialogue would help build consistency across games:
It sounds a great idea and if supporters were allowed in like in the local Gaa Club or Community Centre it could be a great fundraiser and supporters would get to know the Gaa rules" Inter county referees have already got referee assessors reviewing their performance to try and further improve their decision making. Davy Fitz's suggestion to take input from management teams likely has some merit.
You're suggestion to have supporters discussing decisions in the local GAA Club already happens - only over a few pints and without the referee present.
brianb (Kildare) - Posts: 484 - 07/11/2025 14:49:46
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Replying To supersub15: "If you don't mind me saying so you have succeeded in putting together a string of nonsense." supersub 15 from Lowely Carlow ough that rimes
Tomsmith here from the home of Ulster Gaa
If you dont know you are misinformed about this Post ,
I would prefer you to be positive as regards posts
Thank you for reading
tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 4120 - 10/11/2025 11:03:51
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Replying To Canuck: "Yes referees need help to ref the game today. There are many aides that could be used from rules to technology, to two refs. Players now feeling a hand 5 inches from their head jerk back to get a free. Seeing a hurley on the ground fall over it. Institute a unsportsman like free on the field by a ref or some sanction after a review done on the day or later. If done later some sanction. Maybe a repeat in the same year a suspension. There are some things to be done helping officiate our games but the purists on here won't want anything. Neither would they want to go back to peaky caps and having a smoke while playing." Please give a specific example of someone deliberately falling over a hurl on the ground? Just one would suffice, otherwise your post is nonsensical rambling
Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2450 - 10/11/2025 15:22:07
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Replying To Claretandblue: "Please give a specific example of someone deliberately falling over a hurl on the ground? Just one would suffice, otherwise your post is nonsensical rambling" You don't need to take every thing literally. The point being made is faking fouls and players getting called for total accidentally tripping or falling over a hurley that was being used to retrieve the ball.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3205 - 10/11/2025 20:25:37
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Replying To Canuck: "You don't need to take every thing literally. The point being made is faking fouls and players getting called for total accidentally tripping or falling over a hurley that was being used to retrieve the ball." So basically you have no specific examples. Enough
Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2450 - 10/11/2025 22:30:46
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Replying To Claretandblue: "So basically you have no specific examples. Enough" Give me a couple of days and I'll do a review of all the tapes to get specific times, games and dates and players who solicited frees. If that is important to you.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3205 - 11/11/2025 13:35:26
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