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Ah stop! Dublin team beat another fancied Galway team last night and yet one newspaper blamed the wind and the wides, despite Dublin having played with same wind - which blew diagonally from one corner to other so no great help to either - and had just one less wide! Dublin like Na Fianna were the better team. That is why they won. They also won because they wanted it more and were the physically more aggressive and tougher team. Which i recall the lack of was once a great source of mirth to yourselves and others when hammering the "soft Dubs." If we lose now, it is to BETTER tougher teams. That be the Cats, and whoever we've met from Munster in knockout. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3542 - 15/05/2025 09:26:44 2609745 Link 0 |
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Poor aul Dublin anytime they get a win from Galway always seems to be the rock they persh on! katser (Galway) - Posts: 2576 - 15/05/2025 10:51:13 2609768 Link 0 |
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I've often come away from defeats to Dublin at all grades thinking we were the better team, but the penny is now dropping that we obviously weren't.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15821 - 15/05/2025 11:01:25 2609774 Link 0 |
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We beat Galway more often than not. Only beaten by Cork by 5 points last year. Hope you give us a bit of a match in Parnell next weekend. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3542 - 15/05/2025 11:21:13 2609782 Link 0 |
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So what???? You could end up with any number of teams in Leinster. Even just one extra team would mean an extra round of games having to be squeezed into an already-condensed calendar, but consider this (using the current groupings for examples): Let's say Antrim, Offaly, and yes, even ourselves in Wexford, take turns finishing last. But nobody finishes last two years in a row. Laois win the next two Joe McDonaghs. They're promoted, but nobody's relegated. You're up to seven teams. Carlow win the next two after that. Two different teams finish bottom of the higher grade in those years. So Carlow are promoted, but nobody's relegated. You're now up to eight teams. Westmeath win the next two, but still nobody finishes bottom of the higher grade two years in a row. So Westmeath are promoted, but there's still nobody relegated. You're now up to nine teams. And so on, and so on..... Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2866 - 15/05/2025 11:27:05 2609786 Link 1 |
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I think any championship format should have an inherent goal of expansion, so when other Teams feel they are ready to step up, they too can get a change to play at a higher level. StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1836 - 15/05/2025 12:26:32 2609801 Link 1 |
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You could run 2 groups of 5 in Leinster, top in each group go on to the AI series and play in the Leinster final, 2nd place in each play off for the 3rd AI place. Bottom 2 play off, and loser is relegated to the 2nd tier. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15821 - 15/05/2025 14:59:29 2609838 Link 0 |
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If you had of been braver for the 1st 3 quarters, or maybe showed a bit more belief, you might have beaten Cork.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15821 - 15/05/2025 15:01:08 2609841 Link 0 |
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Can any Dublin supporters shed light where our match on 25th will be with Parnell currently closed. CillTormoir (Galway) - Posts: 527 - 15/05/2025 15:23:28 2609846 Link 0 |
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Not claiming we would have won but it was no hammering. Last 3 times we played them been same. Stuck with them but never really looked barring late goals that we might have won. Donoghue was good manager but i think you are correct about caution. Always got impression priorty was to avoid thrashing. Led to suicidal tactics v Cats and Clare. And two dreadful batings! Ó Ceallacháin is more adventurous and adaptable. Where that takes us, god knows. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3542 - 15/05/2025 15:24:58 2609847 Link 0 |
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Not closed. Has been games since Wexford. Tickets already on sale..
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3542 - 15/05/2025 15:34:42 2609850 Link 0 |
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You could. If there was 10 teams in Leinster. But obviously not if there was a different number. And the system proposed by Canuck means there could be any number of teams in it - no minimum, and no maximum. Because here's the flip side of what I posted earlier - there's also a chance Leinster could dwindle down to nothing if there was no promotion/relegation unless the same team finished in that spot two years in a row. Say that of the six currently in the championship: - Antrim (for example) finish bottom two years in a row. Different teams win the McDonagh Cup in those years. Antrim are relegated, nobody's promoted. Leinster is down to five. - Next, Offaly finish bottom two years in a row. Different teams win the McDonagh Cup. Offaly are relegated, nobody's promoted. Leinster is down to four (Kilkenny, Galway, Dublin, Wexford). - Of those four, Wexford finish bottom two years in a row. Different teams win the McDonagh Cup. We're relegated. Nobody's promoted. Leinster is down to three. - Two years later, it could be down to two - i.e. just a straight provincial final. And if the same team loses that two years in a row, then they'd be gone as well. In just ten years of this system, the Leinster Championship could be down to just one team, who'd be declared provincial champions and have straight passage to an All-Ireland semi-final without even pucking a ball. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2866 - 15/05/2025 15:38:12 2609851 Link 0 |
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Games have been moved from it also. Definitely going ahead on 25th there? Grand so
CillTormoir (Galway) - Posts: 527 - 15/05/2025 15:57:36 2609856 Link 0 |
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Definitely. The grass stains you saw had no effect on surface. Still as bad as ever! Be like Utah desert Saturday week! BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3542 - 15/05/2025 17:11:23 2609870 Link 0 |
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Saturday 17 May Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2777 - 16/05/2025 14:06:43 2610041 Link 2 |
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Because the gaa dont care about supporters anymore simple as.
Tiger1 (Wexford) - Posts: 352 - 16/05/2025 15:55:34 2610073 Link 1 |
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Baffling.
countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 801 - 16/05/2025 16:02:43 2610076 Link 0 |
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I think a central council decision was made a few years ago that minor matches should not be held with seniors because it was felt there could be too much pressure on the teenagers. That decision should probably be revisiited in my opinion. I imagine all of the Dublin and KK minors would prefer to play before the seniors. They are probably old enough to learn from one-sided matches matches or from individual mistakes etc..
Firceall (Offaly) - Posts: 38 - 16/05/2025 16:33:56 2610087 Link 0 |
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Bad form and its happening every weekend. Same lads bend over backwards to accommodate rugby and concert organisers and corporate eventers. I know, I know, they need the money ... BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3542 - 16/05/2025 16:42:43 2610089 Link 0 |
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That's part of it. That decision was made around the time or not long after minor changed from U18 to U17, because now anybody playing inter-county minor at this time of year is either still just 16 years old or has only recently turned 17. I agree however that it should be revisited. However, it's not that they can't be allowed. Wexford played Galway last year in a minor & senior double-header at Wexford Park. With regard to this Kilkenny v Dublin one though, another part of it is that it was set out months ago that the Leinster Minor Hurling semi-finals would be played on Saturday May 17th - i.e. long before it was known that Kilkenny & Dublin would come through the group and preliminary play-offs in such a way as to be facing each other in this one. Presumably the case that it could have been switched to act as a curtain-raiser for the senior match on the Sunday if both sides agreed. But my guess is that even if that was attempted, Dublin wouldn't agree to it. And I don't mean that in any bad way about Dublin. If I was the Dublin manager, I'd be highly unlikely to agree to it either. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2866 - 16/05/2025 18:43:06 2610104 Link 3 |