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GPOs can't be recruited for existing advertised jobs, even more so in hurling. Where will they come from? Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2021 - 21/02/2025 15:44:52 2592301 Link 0 |
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It's up to all of us to get out and support our Footballers and all our clubs to give it equal treatment. That in turn is up to people like me and you. At least no young lad in our county cant access football training. Equal treatment has to start at grassroots level. As regards the County Board and Games Development Football is given equal treatment at underage. The same number of games from u8 upwards are given to Football and Hurling. If you think that's the case in every county you couldn't be more wrong. You can't force lads to like Football, you can only offer it and hope lads play it or play both equally. As regards game streaming the problem with our county Football Championships was hardly anyone was buying the Football games to watch. It's the same when I go to games. I was at all but one of our Footballers competitive games last year, Our Leinster Championship game against Carlow last year probably had less people at it in Wexford Park than our clubs u12 div 4 hurling final at the same venue. That's not the Boards fault. Thats up to the Wexford public. Football games are cheaper to go to than hurling games mostly, and kids are free in to Football League games. So why don't more Football people in our county actually get off their holes and support our Footballers? Whether we like it or not in our county more people prefer hurling. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14821 - 21/02/2025 15:51:29 2592302 Link 0 |
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As regards your 1st and 2nd sentences ourselves and Tipp haven't won an AI in Football since Moses was a chap, and the other 4 have never won one. Kilkenny haven't won a Leinster since around then either, Carlow have only ever won 1, during the 2nd world war, and Waterford haven't won a Munster since 1898. And that despite Football being the dominant code in Carlow and Wicklow, and the dominant code in Wexford until the 1940s. Why the 6 counties have failed to produce elite football teams for a long time isn't the subject of this thread. It's easy to blame the County Board in those counties but at some point Football men have to take a good look at themselves also, and maybe try to see what football men in other counties are doing differently. Football has always been available in all 6 counties for all boys to play if they wanted. The point of this Motion is that hurling isn't in many counties. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14821 - 21/02/2025 16:20:29 2592306 Link 0 |
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Most of the funding that goes back to clubs gets spent on infrastructure, not coaching, advertising or promotional work to increase participation, or to the players themselves. And that's in every county.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14821 - 21/02/2025 16:23:20 2592309 Link 0 |
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Where are the vacancies? Any links?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14821 - 21/02/2025 16:24:05 2592310 Link 0 |
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How are hurling people doing the most damage to hurling themselves? Thats the greatest load of rot I've ever heard..... Hurling people are the ones paying to go to watch games and coaching in their clubs. How exactly is that doing damage? Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2156 - 21/02/2025 17:24:44 2592319 Link 0 |
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There's hundreds upon hundreds of GPOs employed nationwide, totally incorrect to say vast majority of money is spent on infrastructure. Leinster Council spent well over €10m on coaching last year. The GPO jobs are advertised online and elsewhere, Counties struggling to fill vacancies. Facts Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2021 - 21/02/2025 17:56:10 2592322 Link 0 |
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It certainly is in Leitrim for sure... we're already struggling to get football teams out on the pitch, volunteers, coaches, finance and so on. The reality is that funds would have to come from Croke Park to implement any of this and I can't see any of the bigger counties subsiding this.
Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1159 - 21/02/2025 19:21:31 2592328 Link 1 |
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https://www.gaa.ie/article/gaa-report-healthy-financial-year-for-2024 We are all members. The GAA earned 132million in 2024. We gave 18.3 million to CBs, and spent 15.2 million on coaching and games. Where are these vacancies for GPOs that you are talking about? Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14821 - 21/02/2025 19:29:39 2592329 Link 0 |
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You are from Westmeath. How much did you as a county spend on coaching and games, and how much on infrastructure? And what was the split as regards spending on hurling and football GPOs, or do you do like ourselves and have dual GPOs? We spent significantly less on coaching and games the last few years than we did on infrastructure. That isn't a criticism, Wexford Park needed the upgrades it got, and we needed a central CoE, both of which our last 2 chairmen and their Boards, which would include our current chairman, delivered over 10 years pretty much debt free, a pretty amazing achievement for them. At the same time now that we have these, and once we all put our shoulder to the wheel as regards to fundraising and upskilling as coaches, hopefully our results might improve on the pitch over the coming 5 or 10 years. This will require significant investment, both at club and county level, and the goodwill of members to volunteer their time as coaches and administrators. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14821 - 21/02/2025 19:39:09 2592331 Link 0 |
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Kilkenny provide football? You're easily pleased.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6164 - 21/02/2025 19:50:30 2592335 Link 0 |
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There's a huge difference between promoting hurling and ramming it down people's throats. This motion should be rejected for the good of hurling.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6164 - 21/02/2025 19:51:54 2592336 Link 0 |
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"Kilkenny don't field a football team" Kilkenny do field a football team.
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2687 - 21/02/2025 20:00:16 2592337 Link 0 |
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O they would do anything for football HA! HA! Hah! I lived in Kilkenny for 14 years. Bigwood was one of the football strongholds. Two players went to practice one night and there was no ball. They never went back. The hurlers got dined in Langtons hotel. The footballers got sandwiches from a pub and that was not always assured. This was at the time when the GAA president was from Kilkenny and spouted about supporting football because no money would be given if not. Their strength in hurling is helped with ignoring football. Okay so be it but let's stop with the semantics.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2947 - 21/02/2025 20:39:15 2592342 Link 1 |
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Any young lad in Kilkenny can play football at his local club from u7 upwards. Or in the case of the 2 clubs who don't have sister football clubs in the same parish and who dont have underage football teams of their own, then a club less than 5 miles up the road. That's just not the case for a young lad who wants to play hurling in many counties, including your own. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14821 - 21/02/2025 21:07:24 2592346 Link 0 |
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Promoting hurling? Trying just to encourage clubs in counties like yours to give young people the opportunity to play hurling has worked out really well over the last 150 years now hasn't it? The status quo been really good for hurling in your county.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14821 - 21/02/2025 21:11:18 2592349 Link 1 |
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Would Wexford and counties like yourselves be prepared to fund it though?
Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1159 - 21/02/2025 23:37:25 2592366 Link 0 |
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Some expert on every possible topic Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2021 - 21/02/2025 23:57:43 2592370 Link 0 |
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Forgive me while I stifle a laugh As I said earlier you are very easily pleased. Kilkenny as a county doesn't give a rattling damn about football.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6164 - 22/02/2025 02:45:35 2592374 Link 0 |
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Canuck the motion isn't about what way the Kilkenny CB are like at promoting adult football. It's about young lads getting the opportunity to play hurling even if they are from Louth for example. A few posters who are ignorant of the truth have tried to argue that there isn't the opportunity for young lads to play football in Kilkenny, so I just pointed out only 4 clubs out of 41 there don't have underage football, 2 of those are in the same parish as football clubs, and the other 2 are less than 5 miles from clubs who do provide football for kids. The bottom line is that there are vast swathes of a large number of counties where a lad wouldn't be able to take up hurling if he wanted to. That's what this Motion is trying to tackle. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14821 - 22/02/2025 07:36:27 2592377 Link 0 |