Non-Gaa Forum - 3 Like(s)
Replying To Galway9801: "Sorry everyone was away for a few days.
I can't speak for anyone else on this forum but that sarcastic post above is a complete, and deliberate, misrepresentation of what I've been saying, not a first for you Breff." That's route 1.
Take your example of someone who applied themselves, rolled up their sleeves, and now finds themselves doing well for themselves. And ridicule and make all sorts of excuses as to how you simply must have been given your deposit from your parents, won the lotto, met lady luck in a champagne bar in Saint Tropez. .etc.
There's simply no way that you can be telling us the truth. You MUST have been given an advantage not available to everyone else!
He's also tried route 2.
I presented a snapshot in time the other day of what was available for a working person who was single, earning minimum wage (above the social housing threshold), working in or around Dublin and needing to live close by, etc.
And the attitude was: why would you want to live in "relative squalor"?.
Why can't I stay in the job I currently work, where I feel I'm not paid enough, and still get that 3 bed townhouse in Monkstown overlooking the coast within 30 seconds of the DART?
For those worrying about our country changing too much, fear not! Irish begrudgery is alive and well!
cavanman47 (National) - 28/03/2024 10:14:35
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Non-Gaa Forum - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Doylerwex: "They are different though.
Banking is unfortunately a necessary evil.
Landlords are not. Not all, but many are white collar criminals rubbing their hands while everyone becomes more and more hopelessly miserable.
That sarcastic post is over the top but honestly the lack of empathy you've shown has shocked me.
I don't know you. You might be a lovely fella, but I cannot wrap my head around how anyone could try to justify the state of our housing market.
There's no rationale. It's the darkest period in modern history and we're destroying our society.
By and large we're a really charitable people, but we're turning into greedy monsters.
What our own elites are doing to people now is a thousand times worse than 800 years of oppression we suffered." I'm sorry but that last line of yours is absolutely ludicrous!
Seriously. Just think about it.
cavanman47 (National) - 28/03/2024 09:59:37
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The Limerick 5 In A Row, Will They Do It? - 2 Like(s)
Replying To baire: "This thread, in case you have forgotten, is about the 5 in a row, not LimericK winning Munster championships or a Limerick club winning an All Ireland in 1897 or the belittling of other counties." Like I posted already, in the 1st 5 or so posts on the thread, they are going to win the 5 in a row. I've been drawn into posting more stuff about history because there have been posts posted that just aren't right. I don't think they are going to win because they won their 1st in 1897. I think they are going to win because their 3 main challengers, including yourselves, aren't as good at modern hurling and have weaknesses they will exploit.
Viking66 (National) - 28/03/2024 10:26:34
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The Limerick 5 In A Row, Will They Do It? - 2 Like(s)
Replying To foreveryoung: "Perhaps a cup of Barry's tea or a pint of Murphy's! Nothing else brewing down in the Deep South!" Typical obtuse and inane remark from the resident moron! Deep South? Thinks he's in the good ole USA !
Ryanteam (National) - 28/03/2024 10:52:45
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Non-Gaa Forum - 2 Like(s)
Replying To cavanman47: "That's route 1.
Take your example of someone who applied themselves, rolled up their sleeves, and now finds themselves doing well for themselves. And ridicule and make all sorts of excuses as to how you simply must have been given your deposit from your parents, won the lotto, met lady luck in a champagne bar in Saint Tropez. .etc.
There's simply no way that you can be telling us the truth. You MUST have been given an advantage not available to everyone else!
He's also tried route 2.
I presented a snapshot in time the other day of what was available for a working person who was single, earning minimum wage (above the social housing threshold), working in or around Dublin and needing to live close by, etc.
And the attitude was: why would you want to live in "relative squalor"?.
Why can't I stay in the job I currently work, where I feel I'm not paid enough, and still get that 3 bed townhouse in Monkstown overlooking the coast within 30 seconds of the DART?
For those worrying about our country changing too much, fear not! Irish begrudgery is alive and well!" What are you on about Monkstown?. Try to see the big picture and stop trying focus on yourself or individuals. Not one thing I've said is directly related to my own circumstances. It's a noted trend that people who crow about being self-made are far from it. I could say I donate houses to the poor and insist you believe me. Anecdotal evidence seems irrelevant until its your own anecdotes about working harder than others and your idiot, wasteful friends.
I actually had 3 jobs pre-covid. 2 are gone now, but you've both jumped to wild conclusions about me to suit yourselves so spare me the righteousness.
Lads look up the snapshot on daft referenced to see the ****holes cavanman47 thinks minimum wage workers deserve to live in on the maximum mortgage available to them
Breffni40 (National) - 28/03/2024 14:42:51
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Westmeath Football thread - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Claretandblue: "A disappointing few days on the football front despite promotion to Div 2 on Sunday. It's pretty clear that the nucleus of our senior team are nearing the end of their careers at that level and div 2 next year will be a massive challenge to gain the 5-6 points necessary to avoid immediate relegation. Temple was in Louth for the minor game and gave a detailed summary, think their playing Kildare next and Kildare hammered Meath last night, Kildare minors in recent years have been Leinster's best side consistently, the Kinnegad showing on Tuesday at under 20 level was very concerning, Dublin were superior in every facet of play, our skill levels couldn't cope with their tackling, physicality, their centre back Clyde Burke would be on 25-26 senior inter county teams already, outstanding player, obviously our 20s got the toughest possible draw with Meath away next, a promising Meath side based on under 17 success in 2021, another tough test, hopefully our sides can show grounds for optimism." Are you saying we shouldn't have tried to get promoted. Unless we aim big and get the scahills, leechs,bakers, drumms whittakers of this world playing against better teams, how are we supposed to develop as a county. Please god its not the aim of a few on here to just compete at div 3. As a county we need to be playing against the best. We might get relegated next year, we might get promoted next year, who knows, but I'd rather be competing in div 2 than 3. Westmeath had 20+ players, playing sigerson, absolutely brilliant to see,j lynam getting into college team of year, brilliant. Hopefully get a good performance sat a d set ourselves up for wicklow. A leinster final is very achievable this year, why not. Best of luck
Upforthegame23 (National) - 28/03/2024 19:17:30
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Non-Gaa Forum - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Doylerwex: "They are different though.
Banking is unfortunately a necessary evil.
Landlords are not. Not all, but many are white collar criminals rubbing their hands while everyone becomes more and more hopelessly miserable.
That sarcastic post is over the top but honestly the lack of empathy you've shown has shocked me.
I don't know you. You might be a lovely fella, but I cannot wrap my head around how anyone could try to justify the state of our housing market.
There's no rationale. It's the darkest period in modern history and we're destroying our society.
By and large we're a really charitable people, but we're turning into greedy monsters.
What our own elites are doing to people now is a thousand times worse than 800 years of oppression we suffered." Point out one time I tried to justify the housing market please. I'm well aware it's very very difficult.
What I don't buy is the assumption that landlords are exclusively to blame, or even if they're contributing in any major way at all to the crisis. (remember, there were landlords in the 90s when there was no crisis).
I'm also sceptical as to whether ordinary workers are as helpless in this situation as is being portrayed. I'm sorry but lots of people are just way too careless with their money, and lots don't even seem inclined to try and even earn money to begin with. Saying that doesn't make me heartless.
Banks maybe a necessary evil, but their overly stringent lending rules are not a necessary evil. I can't understand why you avd ocean seem so determined to back them up here.
Seeing as how the government isn't building homes, and the banks aren't lending money, if anything it's the landlords who are more of a "necessary evil"
Galway9801 (National) - 28/03/2024 19:56:10
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Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Doylerwex: "They are different though.
Banking is unfortunately a necessary evil.
Landlords are not. Not all, but many are white collar criminals rubbing their hands while everyone becomes more and more hopelessly miserable.
That sarcastic post is over the top but honestly the lack of empathy you've shown has shocked me.
I don't know you. You might be a lovely fella, but I cannot wrap my head around how anyone could try to justify the state of our housing market.
There's no rationale. It's the darkest period in modern history and we're destroying our society.
By and large we're a really charitable people, but we're turning into greedy monsters.
What our own elites are doing to people now is a thousand times worse than 800 years of oppression we suffered." I would say the conversation has resorted to hyperbole but I am worried you actually believe rubbish.
Nobody has put forward a formula on how to solve the problem. Have you met a builder out of work? how would you suddenly create new houses - ask Leggo to get involved?
There is nothing wrong with landlords and they are necessary as not everyone can afford or want to take on a mortgage. So what you are asking for is for the state to discriminate against them by saying that the property they are in they need to leave because the landlord needs to sell it to someone who wants to own it and live in it. Ireland took its addiction to owning the house from the UK, in Europe the concept of renting is far common but then again Europeans do not have the same need to show that by owning property they are somehow better than others.
Banks are part of the problem and if you think that they are not taking advantage of the situation they you are pretty naive.
I don't believe anyone hasn't got empathy for people stuck in the current crises however believing in simple solutions is not helping.
zinny (National) - 29/03/2024 06:35:43
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The Limerick 5 In A Row, Will They Do It? - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Viking66: ""On paper yes. But to say Limerick have been winning All-Irelands for a long time isn't true."
But is true. Since they won their 1st in 1897. Every other AI winning county outside the big 3, or big 2 plus Tipp, have had, or are currently having in the case of Waterford, Dublin and also Kerry and Laois, longer AI droughts than Limerick ever had." This thread, in case you have forgotten, is about the 5 in a row, not LimericK winning Munster championships or a Limerick club winning an All Ireland in 1897 or the belittling of other counties.
baire (National) - 28/03/2024 09:29:11
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Wexford Hurling thread 2024 - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Viking66: "I think if we get lucky with injuries we won't be too far off the top counties in either. Hopefully the u20s have a clean bill of health before the knockouts start.
Do you think there might be an advantage to not finishing top of the group at u20? And getting an extra game at QF or even prelim QF level? Especially bearing in mind our u20s have had less time together with management than the other counties?" No!!! Stop trying to be too smart and cute in Wexford. Stop trying to be too clever, go out and win every game, finish top of the group and puff the chest out for whoever the next opponent is. "We finished top of the group, where did you finish". I can already hear the "Sure we didn't need to beat Kilkenny anyway" rhetoric at the weekend.
If our U20's have been training since before Christmas, how long do you need to get ready for a match? No other sport has a 4 month pre-season.
Our Aussie Rules team has just started back practice in the last month, and games in the next week or so. We had been doing some pre-season work before and we got an individual S&C schedule for 6 weeks before the practice started.
I think the GAA has completely lost the run of itself when it comes to the length of the season and the amount of training that is done relative to the benefit gained from that training. It suits the manager who is being paid per night, but is there science to back up the need for 4 months of training before a competitive match? I had a look back at my Strava logs, bleep tests, etc and I'm fitter now than I ever was when I was playing hurling and football with a reduced but better planned training load.
I heard an S&C person say as much as well, but if they too are on the GAA gravy train maybe they tow the line?
StoreysTash (National) - 28/03/2024 09:33:39
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Galway Football thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To togoutlads: "Yes agreed on your point re marketing of our games in Galway. It's poor and quite amateurish. A problem in marketing Galway's county teams and thus building up the crowds and a larger fan base is this - we're not winning! We don't do momentum or consistency. We don't build up 'Big Mo' - large scale momentum, a phenomenon that's been talked about in US sports marketing since the 1960s, where winning brings crowds, crowds brings money to feed further development, ongoing development brings longer term success. Big Mo doesn't just apply to professional sport, it applies to amateur sport too.
I'll focus on football for a min. We never build solid momentum year on year, like the Dubs, Kerry, Mayo. Under Joyce's tenure you've all seen what we're capable of when it's all coming together but what is allowed to happen is that we're peaking and troughing and in any code that loses the people. The troughs endure far longer than the peaks and nobody here really wants to go out of their way to watch their beloved maroon and white lose. Parents won't bring the young kids and the massive numbers of more peripheral supporters (as opposed to the small number of regularly attending diehards) just won't venture out to see us beaten and play incoherent, back-peddling football. The regular punter, the thousands of families and kids involved in our games in the county, want to see us having a cut, taking down the noisy neighbours, beating a Dublin or a Kerry, but it just doesn't happen. It's damaging our prospects and it's hard to see how it's going to change any time soon." Very true - Galway GAA teams don't do long term momentum or consistency too well. The last football team to do that was the 60's 3 in a row team (one could also argue the late 90's / early 00's team had a decent level of consistency) and the last hurling team to do it was the late 80's team where there was no provincial championship to play.
tommy k (National) - 28/03/2024 10:47:57
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Galway Football thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Marooned: "U20 result
Mayo 0-16 Galway 2-6
Galway actually got 2 goals in the first 15 minutes but 6 points is a paltry return overall. Only 2 points scored in the 2nd half. 2 early points after half time but then didn't score at all for the last 30 minutes of the game.
Feels like we are slipping at bit at underage again after a good last decade. No Connacht title since 2018 at minor. Even though they won the AI through the back door in 22. No Connacht U20 title since 2020." how many counties have won both the minor and under 20 football All-Irelands in the past 4 or 5 years?
Would Galway be the only one?
maroondiesel (National) - 28/03/2024 11:23:55
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The Limerick 5 In A Row, Will They Do It? - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Viking66: "Like I posted already, in the 1st 5 or so posts on the thread, they are going to win the 5 in a row. I've been drawn into posting more stuff about history because there have been posts posted that just aren't right. I don't think they are going to win because they won their 1st in 1897. I think they are going to win because their 3 main challengers, including yourselves, aren't as good at modern hurling and have weaknesses they will exploit." Or maybe you're just a professional poster with over 11,000 posts, and are addicted to this site. Limerick certainly unlike Wexford, have given you something to post about over the last while! I have to laugh when I see all these new Limerick supporters from other counties since 2018! It will be a good Munster championship and every game will be a war! Limerick vs Clare in Ennis is only a few weeks away , and Kilkenny and Galway are again looking strong in the Leinster competition.Respect to all these counties and players for the effort they put in!
Ryanteam (National) - 28/03/2024 11:34:14
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Galway Football thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To maroondiesel: "how many counties have won both the minor and under 20 football All-Irelands in the past 4 or 5 years?
Would Galway be the only one?" Since grade changed in 2018, only Cork and Galway
anotheralias (National) - 28/03/2024 12:11:15
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Galway Football thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To maroondiesel: "how many counties have won both the minor and under 20 football All-Irelands in the past 4 or 5 years?
Would Galway be the only one?" Strange how low a transition rate from minor to u20/21.
Hurling is even worse.
Galways last u21 success in 2011.
Minor success in 2009 translated to u21 in 2011 but not in 2012 when you would expect,
Since 2009, 6 more minor All Irelands without any u21/u20
anotheralias (National) - 28/03/2024 12:17:46
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Monaghan GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
2 from 2 for the U20's
conjack76 (National) - 28/03/2024 12:22:59
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Galway Football thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To LottoPlus: "I actually went to the match. Galway could have had a third goal in the first half only for a good save by the goalie. When Thompson and then Kilcommons went off injured we lost our way and midfield. For those two in particular it is the work they do off the ball (running lines, plugging holes, unseen work) that was missing. Thought some of the lads brought the ball into tackles and were easily turned over. Some were very greedy on the ball, that comes from playing poor opposition last week and thinking you could get away with it again. I think they will learn but they better pray Kilcommons and Thompsons injuries are not that bad." Yeah, Thompson was a huge loss when he went off. He was pulling most of the strings in attack when Galway were on top for the first 25 minutes and they looked a bit lost after he went off. Savo said he had a dead leg so hopefully he'll be ok for Sligo next week in what is probably a must win game now.
Marooned (National) - 28/03/2024 12:42:08
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Monaghan GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Farney: "Drew would be a good goalkeeper. he would at least be safe under a high ball!!" Vinny also. Put him in goals - player manager.
muckla (National) - 28/03/2024 13:40:41
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Refs Sending Players To Sideline For / After Medical Attention - 1 Like(s)
Replying To TearsIn85: "Was at an Ulster U20 championship game last night , and the ref was very busy making sure players who received attention on pitch were subsequently banished to sideline a la soccer for a seemingly random amount of time.
Is this now a thing? I must have missed the memo. No one in the crowd around me had heard of it either." Three New Rules came alive on the 23rd of March.
1. Treatment of Injuries
Rule 1.5 (a) Injuries: General, Rules
of Control. Official Guide Part 2
(page 13) Now reads as follows:
Play shall not be stopped for an injury
to a player, except in exceptional
circumstances to enable a seriously
injured player to be treated on the field
or removed from the field of play. All
other injuries shall be treated off the
field off the field of play.
An injured player shall leave the field
at the nearest point. The player may at
a break in play, and only with the
referee's permission, return to the
Field of Play at the centre point of
either sideline.
2. Removal of Helmet
Rule 1.5 (b) Injuries: Blood or
Suspected Head Injury, Rules of
Control, Official Guide Part 2 (pages
13-14) - the following is added section
(iii):
(iii) A player in Hurling who during a
game removes their helmet or has had
it removed by a player/official on the
player's own side shall be presumed to
be potentially injured and shall be
instructed by the referee to
immediately leave the Field of Play to
be assessed for injury and the helmet
refitted.
The player shall not return to the Field
of Play until the next break in play, at
the earliest, and with the permission of
the referee.
3. Extra Time
Rule 2.5 - Rules of Specification -
The Players
Players in Extra-Time - Official Guide
Part 2 (page 7) now reads:
a) At the commencement of Extra-
Time, a team may replace any or all of
the Players on the field of play at the
conclusion of Normal Time
(b) A player ordered off in any
circumstance in Normal Time, may not
play in Extra-Time and may not be
replaced
c) A player in receipt of a Black Card
and ordered to the Sin Bin for ten
minutes with less than ten minutes
remaining in normal time shall be one
of the players on the List but shall
serve any remaining time in the Sin Bin
in Extra-Time.
d) A Caution (Yellow Card) issued in
Normal Time shall carry over into
Extra-Time as shall a Black Card. e)
The Referee shall be given a List of the
players starting Extra-Time, or a Note
clearly indicating the changes made
from that of the finishing team in
Normal Time.
This List/Note may be in single form
but shall otherwise comply with the
provisions of Rule 2.4 - List of Players.
f) In an Inter-County Game, only
players on the List submitted to the
Referee prior to the game may start
Extra-Time. g) Substitutions/
Temporary Substitutions shall be
allowed during the playing of Extra-
Time as outlined in Rule 2.3(ii) and
(iii).
In addition Rule 3.4 - Rules of
Specification -Time - Official Guide
Part 2 (page 8) now states as part (e)
that:
Extra-Time shall be considered to be a
continuation of Normal Time save
where provided for otherwise in these
Rules.
GDL (National) - 28/03/2024 13:54:24
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Refs Sending Players To Sideline For / After Medical Attention - 1 Like(s)
Super, appreciate the heads up lads. I'd heard about the extra time changes, but not the others
Refs need to implement the break in play return though. Saw lads very frustrated with not being allowed back on even when game stopped for frees.
Yet another thing for refs to manage, I suppose. As if they don't have enough to be doing
TearsIn85 (National) - 28/03/2024 14:19:10
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