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Kerry 2022-Current Team Better Than 04-09 Team? - 3 Like(s)
Replying To Fionn: "Good teams win All Ireland's.
Even better teams win back2back.
Legendary teams win 5 in a Row.
Best team of all time wins 6 in a row…" You're way off with that statement. Football in the 20 teens wasn't football compared to the 00s or the present day football. How many of that Dublin team would get on a top team of today or back in the 00s? They couldn't even kick points from outside the 21 yard line. They handpassed their way into the square. Not blaming Dublin, teams let them do it and the more they won the more scared other teams got.
Saynothing (National) - 29/07/2026 08:27:29
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Kerry 2022-Current Team Better Than 04-09 Team? - 3 Like(s)
Tyrone 03-09 and Kerry 04-09 were great teams. Kerry 21-26 are not a great team.
Kerry saw in 15 and 19 that Dublin were not a great team. Even outside of 23, Dublin saw in 22 and again in the 26 semi final that Kerry 21-26 are not a great team. There are no qualms about it.
legendzxix (National) - 29/07/2026 09:35:53
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Kerry 2022-Current Team Better Than 04-09 Team? - 3 Like(s)
Replying To legendzxix: "The 2010s was a non vintage decade. 03-09 was the last great era." Don't agree but if you think so surely there were other "non vintage" eras for teams to go 5 or 6, but I suppose Ciarraigh were unlucky to come up against the "generational one in a row" Offaly teaming '82?
sligo joe (National) - 28/07/2026 21:40:05
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Kerry 2022-Current Team Better Than 04-09 Team? - 2 Like(s)
Replying To legendzxix: "The 2010s was a non vintage decade. 03-09 was the last great era." 98 to 01 was the last great era. Before that it was 64 to 66.
WanPintWin (National) - 28/07/2026 21:02:32
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Kerry All Ireland Champions 2026? - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Saynothing: "Definitely not, this Mayo team of 2026 wouldn't have left a couple of All Irelands behind a few years ago. And I'll include 2021 in that." Ah no chance. Player for player the Mayo team of 2016/17 was a lot better than the current crop. The current crop on Sunday showed unbelievable desire to get over the line but not many people are talking about the Kerry performance and how bad they were.
What other team can kick 4/14 two pointers, lose 10/12 of second half kickouts and still win?! An elite opposition who turn up and perform to even 80% of their potential would have capitalised on those errors by Mayo on Sunday in my opinion and eked out the win. Again Mayo were excellent in a lot of areas but their mistakes and lack of accuracy just were not punished at all.
TrueBlue35 (National) - 29/07/2026 10:18:16
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Kerry All Ireland Champions 2026? - 2 Like(s)
Replying To CiarraiMick: "Forgot Sean Cavanagh.He has to be there too." I think you forgot a lot more than Seán, Mick. The Dubs of that era had so many stars they are lost in the crowd, just one more, Cian O'Sullivan, a rolls Royce of a defender and as cool as a breeze, Ger Brennan, Bryan Cullen, Philly(every time b4 RyanMc). Kevin Nolan, a star held back by illness. Alan Brogan, work rate and skill.
And I know I said back to back, or failing to defend the title, does not define a team nor should it and a team coming back after defeat is admirable, but still "a la" boxing parlance, defending the title adds substance to the achievement and to defend your title 5 times is awesome. The attitude, ability and discipline to do that demands appreciation and without ever losing a game on the journey.
sligo joe (National) - 28/07/2026 21:06:28
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David Clifford The Goat - 2 Like(s)
Replying To BarneyGrant: "David and Paudie emerge with reputations enhanced after Sunday.
The sobering thought for Kerry people is that while David is undoubtedly cementing his reputation as one of the greats, that he is playing on a team that without the brothers and a few others is mediocre. Take them away and Mayo would have hammered them.
I'd include Tom Sullivan among the really good players but injuries caught up with him when he was motoring well enough on Sunday and had to be pulled." Question for your Barney - would you trust David in particular to drag you out of a deep hole when backs are really against the wall? Genuine question so no right or wrong answer!
I know when we were struggling over the years in big games then its in those moments that the best of the best come to the fore i.e. think James McCarthy simply refusing to lie down in a few massive games over the years. I think Paudie has shown more of those never say die qualities than David and again last Sunday. That's why the "GOAT" conversation isn't as cut and dried in my mind compared to a lot of peoples. He undoubtedly has the skill level to eclipse a lot of what we have seen over the years but those other less tangible qualities in terms of leadership and resilience I'm just not sure he is at that elite 1% level...yet.
TrueBlue35 (National) - 29/07/2026 14:19:00
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GAA Football Power Rankings 2026 - 2 Like(s)
Replying To tirawleybaron: "Since 2018 (super 8's) Kerry have won 2 out of 8 and been in 5 finals out of 8." They haven't won them tho I think that's the point
rossy15 (National) - 28/07/2026 20:17:15
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Kerry 2022-Current Team Better Than 04-09 Team? - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Fionn: "Good teams win All Ireland's.
Even better teams win back2back.
Legendary teams win 5 in a Row.
Best team of all time wins 6 in a row…" 6 in a row never be done again. Teams will struggle even to do back to back as Kerry proved this year.
endgame (National) - 28/07/2026 20:16:56
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Kerry All Ireland Champions 2026? - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Square_B: "They came up against a Kerry team that forgot to play & how to kick 2 pointers. Lets not overegg the position." A Kerry team not allowed to play because of the pressure put on them by relentless tackling from a Mayo team 2 to 15.
Scenicparish (National) - 28/07/2026 20:05:48
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Dublin GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Very impressed with how Dublin gained momentum as the championship moved into the latter stages. Ger back on the line definitely helped the case
Shearer (National) - 29/07/2026 13:28:16
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Mayo All Ireland Champions 2026! - 1 Like(s)
Replying To CiarraiMick: "Spot on." I agree and there are more comments here re Mayo finishing 3rd in the league this year.
But.. after Mayo were humiliated by Ross and rode their luck hugely in Clones v Monaghan, did anyone see Mayo winning an AI? I don't think so. Remember, most pundits tipped Louth to beat Mayo while the bookies had Mayo very slight favourites in that game.
So in that context is is a big shock.
Cbar (National) - 29/07/2026 14:17:39
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Monaghan GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To ORIELMAN85: "Maybe you didn't notice but Andy Moran had moved on." Exactly, so Andy Moran was obviously the catalyst for the emphasis on 2pointers, hence he didn't learn or pick that up with Monaghan, he brought that focus with him too Monaghan and too Mayo. Crediting GB or the current management team is way off the mark.
MonaghanMan44life (National) - 29/07/2026 12:55:10
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Galway Football thread - 1 Like(s)
Galway would be lucky to have PJ for another term; he is a great tribesman.
Success in 2027 comes down to the 26 available in June.
Mayo's brilliant success is massive for Connacht, and this can only drive the province forward.
Gaillimh Abu
suckvalleypaddy (National) - 29/07/2026 13:30:17
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Kerry All Ireland Champions 2026? - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Donegalman: "I don't know a single team who has lost the all Ireland final who says the same thing: That they underperformed, usually because of either injury or overtraining. Either that or poor refereeing.
This year, Kerry got to the final, looking very good (at times) v both Dublin and Tyrone, and sensational before that v Armagh in Killarney. The donegal experience seemed to have been long put to bed.
In the actual final, the first 20 minutes, they looked like they were going to beat Mayo by a cricket score, so really, the question is, what happened them in the final to go from a 7 point advantage to at one stage a 5 point disadvantage.
I think this has as much to do with what Mayo actually did as opposed to what Kerry failed to do. Up to the final, Kerry won quite impressively, doing enough and digging deep. The final, Mayo's 2 point strategy coupled with their high press really put it up to Kerry. You can analyse a game to death, and talk about switching up tactics in play. But the reality is that it is much more easily said than done to do this in a game against opponents who are gambling on leaving themselves exposed at the back while using a high press, and going for 2 pointers when they could be working the ball closer to the goals. You have to do the same thing yourself....and you wont get it half way through a game. You have to put this tactic into practice at training and in real match experience too.
Teams will be sitting up and watching what Mayo achieved in the final and the way they did this. But it's still gambling, and the big question is (similar to the blanket defence of 10-15 years ago), if everyone uses the same tactic, does it retain its ability to win games?" I was having this very conversation with a Donegal man in work this morning coincidentally. I think there will be a finely tuned version of this and there will be a balance found. Similar to when Jim Gavin had the Dubs pouring forward in 2013 & 2014 he had to find some sort of balance and fine tune the system which ultimately proved so successful after that. I think Andy Moran has certainly found a new angle to getting the job done but they were also fortunate the last day to get away with that much wastefulness. In reality he will develop it further to ensure the gamble as you say is not so high risk.
I think other counties will experiment but I'm not sure we are going to see everyone trying the same thing.
TrueBlue35 (National) - 29/07/2026 12:13:15
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David Clifford The Goat - 1 Like(s)
Id honestly prefer 6 scoring forwards playing with variance then doing what Kerry do or what Clifford brings.
As nice as it is to watch and as good as he is at it, its telegraphed and one dimensional on a team, over all i think its undermining.
From that point of view i wouldn't have him in the conversation.
Good player though.
TheUsername (National) - 29/07/2026 13:58:00
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Mayo All Ireland Champions 2026! - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Beelzedub: "Great win, a historic one. Fantastic for the people of Mayo.
Now that the monkey is off their backs, no reason why they can't challenge for it again with real optimism for future success, but nothing beats the first one!
Back to backs are very difficult to achieve. I dont see it but no doubting they'll give it a go in 2027 and in the years ahead. Mayo have every chance with the age profile of the team and obviously a good management team in place to add another one, maybe two.
Warm Congratulations to Mayo." The best thing about it is that there are lots of teams now who will think with a fair wind, luck with injuries etc that they too could emulate Mayo in 2027. I think if Kerry had won comfortably on Sunday, a sense of fatalism may have taken over whereby Kerry would have been seen as too big an obstacle for many teams.
But if you look how closely Tyrone and Dublin ran them, plus Donegal beat them earlier in the summer.
There is a good clutch of teams who can justifiably consider themselves contenders, and isn't that just great for the overall Championship. Football is in a great place.
Lockjaw (National) - 29/07/2026 11:43:45
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David Clifford The Goat - 1 Like(s)
Replying To BarneyGrant: "David and Paudie emerge with reputations enhanced after Sunday.
The sobering thought for Kerry people is that while David is undoubtedly cementing his reputation as one of the greats, that he is playing on a team that without the brothers and a few others is mediocre. Take them away and Mayo would have hammered them.
I'd include Tom Sullivan among the really good players but injuries caught up with him when he was motoring well enough on Sunday and had to be pulled." Divid didn't enhance and reputation sunday. Second half was a poor display from one for the best in the game. When was needed most to lead he just stood up and watched. No work rate.
Thejampot (National) - 29/07/2026 14:01:43
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David Clifford The Goat - 1 Like(s)
Replying To BarneyGrant: "David and Paudie emerge with reputations enhanced after Sunday.
The sobering thought for Kerry people is that while David is undoubtedly cementing his reputation as one of the greats, that he is playing on a team that without the brothers and a few others is mediocre. Take them away and Mayo would have hammered them.
I'd include Tom Sullivan among the really good players but injuries caught up with him when he was motoring well enough on Sunday and had to be pulled." I agree with a lot of what you say, but I also think it's possible that Kerry have just become too reliant on the Cliffords, at the expense of others showing what they can do. When you have an inside forward as good as David, the temptation is to play him every time, especially in the bigger games against better opposition. Some people will say they didn't play him enough on Sunday, but he actually got a lot of ball. He had to recycle quite a lot of it as he was double-marked and had very little space. David will generally always take the right option and if there isn't a shot on, he'll look for a pass.
How much ball did Dylan Geaney get? It must have been in single figures. He's a very classy forward and far from mediocre, but had two poor outings in the semi and final. That's obviously on him, but I also don't think he got too many opportunities. As an inside forward, you're relying on ball being played in. Especially someone like him, who's an excellent shooter. Something similar happened in the 2022 final when Paul Geaney was whipped off at half-time. He had missed a few shots, but generally hadn't gotten much ball. It wasn't mentioned much because Kerry won on the day and we had a shootout between Walsh and Clifford.
WanPintWin (National) - 29/07/2026 14:01:49
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Kerry All Ireland Champions 2026? - 1 Like(s)
Replying To TrueBlue35: "I was having this very conversation with a Donegal man in work this morning coincidentally. I think there will be a finely tuned version of this and there will be a balance found. Similar to when Jim Gavin had the Dubs pouring forward in 2013 & 2014 he had to find some sort of balance and fine tune the system which ultimately proved so successful after that. I think Andy Moran has certainly found a new angle to getting the job done but they were also fortunate the last day to get away with that much wastefulness. In reality he will develop it further to ensure the gamble as you say is not so high risk.
I think other counties will experiment but I'm not sure we are going to see everyone trying the same thing." You also have to consider the season or the big knock out game it doesn't work in..."they missed too many 2 pointers"or "they burned themselves out with 20 minutes to go". Then u will hear, "they should have been patient and held onto the ball, they should have sat back a bit for a while, they should have been content to score 1 pointers" etc.
It's all about practicing the high press. Then training using it and nothing else. Gambling basically.
Donegalman (National) - 29/07/2026 14:12:39
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