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Non-Gaa Forum - 2 Like(s)

Replying To Commodore:  "Ireland badly needs a Center-Right party as an alternative, as all of the established parties in Dail Eireann are leftist or have moved in that center left direction in recent years to gain popularity and now afraid to rock the boat.

Irish National Debt is on course to be €30 billion higher at the end of this decade than at the start of it.
As said before, there needs to be massive overhaul of the public sector, as its dragging the state under with the levels of inefficiencies tolerated, which in turn is causing mayhem in Health, Justice, education etc."
Have you done an in depth study of the " public sector"?
Have you identified all those " inefficiencies"?
Have you listed them and given the solutions?
Or are you just repeating oul propoganda from Ibec/Isme?
Or from populist politicians?
Or are you just doing the late night grumpy oul lad at the end of the bar?
Fine Gael are in the main Centre right and are in power ( with others) for over 15 years .

Seanfan (National) - 11/06/2026 21:57:11

Leinster SHC - 2 Like(s)

Replying To Fionn:  "100% and the same for Dublin.

The fact that Galway made a clean sweep of Leinster hurling titles this year is not good for Leinster counties, it could be argued.

I personally don't see an issue with Galway being added to the Munster SHC.
They have conquered Leinster.
Time to move them on to the next level now.
At least we would have 2 competitive hurling provinces."
I think a workable acceptable solution is put Galway into Munster and allow 4 qualify from 6.
Still only same amount of Rds but another 2 million for Munster coffers .
Leinster then another group of 6 with 4 qualifying also.
Top 2 into Provincial Finals.
3rd Munster home to 4th Leinster.
3rd Leinster home to 4th Munster.
Winners of those games play the losers of Provincial Finals and so on.
Bottom 2 play Relegation Final.
Yes Munster is stronger but a 6 team Leinster Group of Kilkenny, Dublin, Offaly, Wexford, Kildare and Laois is still acceptable in my opinion and constantly playing each other plus the odd game v Munster teams and Provincial Final appearances will improve all those Counties.

Paull (National) - 12/06/2026 09:33:20

Leinster SHC - 2 Like(s)

Replying To Viking66:  "We'd of loved them to go, but unfortunately they are in the province ;-)"
Galway have won 4 Leinster Senior titles.
The reason Wexford and Dublin havent been winning is that they are not good enough.
Pushing Galway out will not improve standards in other counties. In fact that would weaken them further and Kilkenny would win 9 years out of 10.
The answer is stop moaning and do something about the low standards.
Wexford last won a minor All Ireland in 1968, and under 21 in 1965(I think)
Dublin never won an under 21 and no minor in my lifetime.
Will removing Galway to Munster improve these statistics? Hardly.

Over the last 50 years three counties have made genuine progress, Galway, Clare and Offaly.
Wexford have regressed, Dublin have continued to bow hot and cold while Waterford have gamely tried and have had some success.
Success in Galway is not the problem.

SixtiesKid (National) - 12/06/2026 10:52:46

Leinster SHC - 2 Like(s)

Replying To Fionn:  "Kilkenny are a Leinster county.
Galway are not. Simple really.

With Kilkenny now not the Hurling powerhouse in Leinster anymore, like they used to be, a Galway dominance in Leinster will accelerate their move to the Munster SHC. It is sure to happen.

Why would Galway be against the move.????"
By repeatedly the ridiculous doesn't change its absurdity!

Crashingwaves (National) - 12/06/2026 11:49:08

Football Format Changes Discussion - 1 Like(s)

Replying To omahant:  "Why not end the debate with this:

TWO OPTIONS:

OPTION ONE

✓ Two league tiers of 16

✓ Prov KO ties, based on prior Autumn Draw, 'double as league ties' (all 4 Prov Rds, intra-tier);
any tier crossover ties (Tier 1v2) are Prov KO only

✓ Play Prov Prelim & QF Rds early (Feb, 1st half); but defer SFs (Apr, end) & Finals (May, mid 2 wks)

✓ After Prov QF Rd, draw '4 groups of 4' per tier
(from 4 seeded pots of 4)

✓ 12-match Regular Season - a URC-like schedule, less* 'intra-group' ties - i.e. play the 'crossover' 12 - with all 'intra-tier' Prov KO ties included in the 12

* Groups reduce the high 16-team 'all plays all' match count to the desired quantity in each tier

✓ Limit each group to 'one Prov SF team, per province' (this way, all 16 'then possible' Prov Finals - played over 2 weeks in May - 'cross over')

✓ Avoid drawing to the same group, both teams in any Prov Prelim, Prov QF or 'Pre-selected' league tie, to ensure these ties have also 'crossed over'
(all played pre-draw, per the AILC Calendar below)

✓ Rank teams 1-16 & 17-32, based on 12-match Swiss model/ partial round robin, 16-team tables, prior to a 'three-tier' AIC for Sam, Shield & Plate

✓ Teams '1 & 17' win "League 1" or "League 2"

✓ Top 8 enter AI Sam 'Aussie AFL-style Playoffs';
9-20 participate in the middle-tier AI Shield KO;
21-28 contest an AI Plate KO (or Tailteann Cup); &
29-32 are eliminated

✓ Each Prov Champ's AIC tier eligibility is also based solely on their most recent League ranking
(no Sam berth guarantee)

✓ 'Shield QF 8' compete in the next Tier 1 League,
with '2, 3 or 4 teams' newly promoted & relegated
[after Prelim QFs: 11,12,13,14 host 20,19,16,15; &
QFs: 9,10,17,18 host PQF 'reverse seed' winners
.
______

Or, alternatively:

OPTION TWO

10-match Regular Season - similar to "Option One" - with the following changes:

✓ After Prov QFs, draw groups of 6, 5 & 5 per tier

✓ 10-match schedule (6 v both 5s; and each 5 v own round-robin group), with all intra-tier Prov KO ties 'most likely' included in the 10

✓ To optimise this 'likelihood', split each Tier 1 'Prov-specific, Prov SF set' in the draw, as follows:

Draw '3 of a **4-team SF set' to 'one Group of 5';
'3 of a 2nd **4-team set' to 'other Group of 5'; &
'1 SF team from each province' to the 'Group of 6',
before completing groups with remaining teams.

[i.e. to target avoidance of Prov KO ties between 'two Group of 6 teams', or 'one from each Group of 5', as they would not 'double up' as league ties].

** If unavailable, draw '2 of a 3-team SF set' instead.
______

AILC CALENDAR
(only selected weeks shown below)

Week Activity
-2 (mid Jan) Start of '2-3 game' Pre-Season
0 (end of Jan) End of Pre-Season Warm-Up

1 (start of Feb) 4 Prov Prelim Rd ties; and up to
12 pre-selected, pre-group draw,
'cross-province, league ties'

2 13 Prov QF Rd ties; and up to
3 pre-selected, pre-group draw,
'cross-province, league ties'

2 (after QF Rd) AILC Draw (2 tiers of 4x4 or 6,5,5)
2 (after Draw) Add 'Week 1/2 results' to tables
3 Bye Week

4 (end of Feb) 3rd Regular Season Match Week
13 (end of Apr) Match Week includes 8 Prov SFs
15 & 16 Match Weeks include 4 Prov Finals
20 Last Regular Season Match Week
21 (end of June) Bye Week

22 AI Sam ^PSFs/PQFs, Shield PQFs & Plate QFs
23 AI Sam QFs & AI Shield QFs
24 AI Plate SFs
25 AI Sam SFs & AI Shield SFs
26 (end of July) AI Plate Final
27 (start of Aug) AI Sam Final & AI Shield Final

^ Two Sam Prelim SF ties are 'double elimination' (with winners to Sam SFs & losers to Sam QFs).
Across three tiers, all 25 other ties are AIC KO.

NOTE - Over 27 regular/ post season Calendar Weeks, each inter-county team plays:
12 (or 10) 'staggered' regular season games;
a likely '0 to 2' tier-crossover Prov KO games; and
'0 to 4' AIC/post season games, with remaining
'inactive weeks' sufficient for periodic rest.
______"]Not wise nor anywhere near it.

Saynothing (National) - 11/06/2026 21:16:10

Leinster SHC - 1 Like(s)
This is gas, the sensationalism. 1 season of claiming the minor, u20 and Senior provincials and all of a sudden we must go. What about when Kilkenny were winning it every year and even sometimes at a canter, where the same noises being said for them to go to the Munster Championship.

ColmFlaherty (National) - 12/06/2026 09:38:35

Football Championship 2026 - 1 Like(s)

Replying To dickie10:  "Games are now seemingly going ahead in Northern Ireland, Meath county board contacted Derry saying they were happy to travel. PSNI might yet intervene Derry county board said depending on trouble which could erupt on a Friday night. The time factor is pretty tough though coming out of Derry city at 9 pm on a Saturday night won't bring any families from Meath up. Daft time to put it on for a team that brought over 40,000 to all Ireland semi last year., similar with Armagh who would bring 25,000 to Croke Park if Louth agreed. Two huge counties population wise and support wise and GAA making sure to limit attendance. GAA plus 4:30 match Meath v Derry and 7pm match Roscommon in clones would make a lot more sense. 2 hrs will bring you to south Roscommon from clones . 4hrs to big populations in south Meath from Derry. Coupled with away fixture in cork last timr seems very unfair ."
Where is Northern Ireland? A supposed place with neither Anthem nor flag.

Saynothing (National) - 12/06/2026 09:53:40

Leinster SHC - 1 Like(s)

Replying To Paull:  "I think a workable acceptable solution is put Galway into Munster and allow 4 qualify from 6.
Still only same amount of Rds but another 2 million for Munster coffers .
Leinster then another group of 6 with 4 qualifying also.
Top 2 into Provincial Finals.
3rd Munster home to 4th Leinster.
3rd Leinster home to 4th Munster.
Winners of those games play the losers of Provincial Finals and so on.
Bottom 2 play Relegation Final.
Yes Munster is stronger but a 6 team Leinster Group of Kilkenny, Dublin, Offaly, Wexford, Kildare and Laois is still acceptable in my opinion and constantly playing each other plus the odd game v Munster teams and Provincial Final appearances will improve all those Counties."
100%
Very workable.

And good for Galway also tbh.

Fionn (National) - 12/06/2026 09:56:48

Leinster SHC - 1 Like(s)

Replying To ColmFlaherty:  "This is gas, the sensationalism. 1 season of claiming the minor, u20 and Senior provincials and all of a sudden we must go. What about when Kilkenny were winning it every year and even sometimes at a canter, where the same noises being said for them to go to the Munster Championship."
We'd of loved them to go, but unfortunately they are in the province ;-)

Viking66 (National) - 12/06/2026 09:57:07

Leinster SHC - 1 Like(s)

Replying To ColmFlaherty:  "This is gas, the sensationalism. 1 season of claiming the minor, u20 and Senior provincials and all of a sudden we must go. What about when Kilkenny were winning it every year and even sometimes at a canter, where the same noises being said for them to go to the Munster Championship."
Kilkenny are a Leinster county.
Galway are not. Simple really.

With Kilkenny now not the Hurling powerhouse in Leinster anymore, like they used to be, a Galway dominance in Leinster will accelerate their move to the Munster SHC. It is sure to happen.

Why would Galway be against the move.????

Fionn (National) - 12/06/2026 10:02:53

Leitrim GAA thread - 1 Like(s)

Replying To LM94:  "What would be leitrims best line up for next year be. I think this, but it Is very early days yet. Is there anyone missing or I forgot that should be on it.

1. Killian gaffey
2. Conor reynolds
3. Donal casey
4. ?
5. Eoin Mcloughlin
6. ?
7. Keith keegan
8. Conor quinn
9. Barry Mcnulty
10. Tom prior
11. Riordan O'rourke
12. Paul honeyman
13. Darren cox
14. Ryan o'rourke
15. Jack Kelly"
Strong team. If we got Pearse Dolan back you could play Barry center half forward. Id find a place for Mark Diffley but maybe not a 6. Either Mcnamara, Harkin, oberwan will do a job at 4. Oisin Mcloughlin has nailed down his spot he was superb last few months.
Any defenders from the u20's to come in?

3rdmidfielder (National) - 12/06/2026 10:06:06

Monaghan GAA thread - 1 Like(s)

Replying To Drax_the_destroyer:  "Not saying you can or can't do it just that I feel more will be required than just bringing it down the stretch In order to win. That's what Monaghan did against Armagh and Mayo both played in Clones and came up short.

I see no more than a 1 to 4 point margin in the end and it's 10/11 odds for both to win by that margin."
Good bet lets hope we are not the nearly men third match running

seanie08 (National) - 12/06/2026 10:27:30

Football Format Changes Discussion - 1 Like(s)

Replying To Expertinall:  "Rumbles of discontent from Clare about the Munster Championship seeding system, maybe the comfy wee 'arrangement' will have to be scrutinized further, and the perks unfairly gained, by it too."
Galway earned home advantage in Round 1 by beating Division 4 Leitrim. Clare qualified for the All Ireland championship in 24 and 25 by getting the better of Division 4 opponents. Provincial runners-up are indeed being overly rewarded.

legendzxix (National) - 12/06/2026 11:12:14

Leinster SHC - 1 Like(s)

Replying To Crashingwaves:  "By repeatedly the ridiculous doesn't change its absurdity!"
Galway do not want to move to Munster as it would decrease their chances of success in both the All Ireland and Provincial competitions.
The 5 Munster Counties do not want Munster in their Province for the same reason.
Turkeys voting for Christmas stuff.
Problem is Leinster Counties (Turkeys) plus othes voted for Christmas when allowing Galway in.

Its understandable we all want what's best for our own success but should Galways needs be greater than the rest of Leinsters maybe bar Kilkenny??
Leinster need to look after Leinster Counties first, and if that is to the detriment of Galway so be it.
Connaught / Central Council need to look after Galway.

Paull (National) - 12/06/2026 14:16:23