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Are you a Bot? You seem to just give it a few days and start all over again. Its getting tiresome now. Tadhg2020 (Limerick) - Posts: 420 - 19/05/2026 08:50:57 2674048 Link 1 |
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Totally unfair on all other Counties in Munster outside of Kerry and Cork.
Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 953 - 19/05/2026 12:52:39 2674115 Link 1 |
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For the same reason that Donegal had no plan B in last year's All Ireland Final. The manager is incabable of coming up with a plan B on short notice ala 2013 Ulster Final and 2014 All Ireland Final.
ORIELMAN85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1068 - 19/05/2026 13:01:53 2674121 Link 1 |
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Yeah agreed, it's ridiculous. Cork beat Waterford and Tipperary to reach a Munster final, their reward is a home game vs Meath which might just be the factor that tips them over the line. The power of home advantage can't be understated. Similarly Galway beat Leitrim to guarantee home advantage I'm okay with the provincial winners being seeded home advantage, to win a provincial you probably to earn it (outside of Munster), so home advantage is a justified reward. Westmeath beat Meath, Kildare and Dublin, absolutely deserved. Cabbagepatch1667 (Meath) - Posts: 145 - 19/05/2026 13:18:26 2674127 Link 1 |
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We actually did sort out kickouts for the second half as it happens. Kerry were just too far ahead at that stage to claw them back. He also managed a plan b against Monaghan last year in the QF. Do you remember that game? The one where yous were up 7 at halftime? peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1609 - 19/05/2026 13:21:48 2674130 Link 1 |
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Before you rope Galway/Connacht in - Sligo were on the Galway side of the draw, they are a Div 3 team (same as Westmeath). Its not Galways fault Sligo got beat by Leitrim. Cork also beat Limerick who were relegated to Div 4. The actual difference is 2 of Galway, Mayo and Roscommon will draw each other in the qfinal next year (because Leitrim are in London and Sligo are in NY) and possibly draw the other in the semi to reach a Provincial final. Cork will avoid Kerry in a semi or qfinal forever. The Connacht draw next year is a 25% chance of a Sligo v Leitrim semi final and the winner being seeded in the all ireland series, despite neither of them having any chance of winning the tailteann cup anytime soon. If Munster go back to an open draw - you could get a situation where Cork play Kerry in a qfinal and waterford, Limerick and Tipp all are on the other side of the draw. If Munster and Connacht play out that way - you could have 2 div 4 teams seeded in the All ireland series and 2 Div 2 teams excluded from the Sam Maguire - whatever way you dress it up - its wrong tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1827 - 19/05/2026 14:24:10 2674148 Link 2 |
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Re. provincial championships as a whole standing on their own feet.. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 9737 - 19/05/2026 18:38:54 2674219 Link 0 |
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It's very easy for a Kerry person to say that? The Munster Championship provides Kerry and Cork a handy route to a home tie in the AI Series.
Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 953 - 19/05/2026 21:30:55 2674231 Link 0 |
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Provincial seeding is absolutely essential in my opinion, otherwise you end up undermining the tailteann cup, with the likes of Sligo maybe beating Leitrim to get to a final or Limerick beating Tipp to get to a final and that in turn sends more div 2 teams into the Tailteann and that then means the same 3/4 teams winning it constantly. Ridiculous not to seed them.
cuttothebone (Kildare) - Posts: 179 - 20/05/2026 09:30:04 2674268 Link 1 |
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Ok, then they cannot be allowed to impact your starting point in the race for Sam, and have to be adjusted to have equal numbers and quality of teams in EACH one. Probably need to be renamed then, too. Maybe north, south,east, west or something?
Expertinall (UK) - Posts: 95 - 20/05/2026 11:43:20 2674306 Link 0 |
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Munster is a turkeyshooot, Pat Spillans words, not mine. Stop avoiding the advantage you benefit from, from playing in it.
Expertinall (UK) - Posts: 95 - 20/05/2026 11:48:45 2674308 Link 0 |
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Like talking to a wall with some people trying to get across the massively unfair advatage Kerry and Cork have. As you say, almost guarantees Cork, and probably more importantly, Kerry a massive leg up to start the All Ireland series. Completely unfair but you get the usual 'can't devalue the provincial championships' 'sure nothing like Kerry and Cork in Killarney' blah, blah blah JimB1991 (Donegal) - Posts: 174 - 20/05/2026 13:24:26 2674332 Link 0 |
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What's your point... Advocating standalone provincial championships means having the All Ireland have its own promotion and relegation to the Tailteann. The national hurling league is getting on fine without any link to the All Ireland. The football league should do likewise. Have your league. Have your provincial championships. Then have the All Ireland tiered championships. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 9737 - 20/05/2026 19:01:39 2674407 Link 0 |
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With dates below for remaining Rounds macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 1215 - 20/05/2026 19:52:43 2674415 Link 0 |
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My point is that you think that the Provincial Championships and the AI Series are both now stand alone competitions. But are they? Because you have a seeded Munster Provincial Championship, Kerry and Cork have an unfair advantage in that ye are quaranteed to get to the Provincial final every year and because of that under the new rules you have a home tie in your first match in the AI Series. Ye also have a handy run to the final so ye can rest players such as Gavin White and Paudie Clifford, to name but a few, and have them fresh for later on in the AI Series. Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 953 - 20/05/2026 22:14:03 2674434 Link 1 |
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Jaysus kerry may have advantage munster but doesnt mean it is always used or good thing only when win the donegal crowd must getting to be biggest moaners about kerry and forget to mention ye had advantage itself in preparing for kerry some what anyway, Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 1306 - 20/05/2026 23:08:32 2674443 Link 0 |
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You should be looking at making all stronger and more important and trying to dilute the provincial championships and league. Now more than ever is the time to do it with a very competitive field Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3965 - 20/05/2026 23:22:00 2674447 Link 0 |
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Your first 6 words say it all. Why should they have a seeded route to a home draw? The rest is all waffle, and more than Donegal posters pointing this out, including myself.
Expertinall (UK) - Posts: 95 - 21/05/2026 11:09:53 2674474 Link 1 |
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The hurling league is a joke of a competition these days. So it the Leinster Hurling Championship. Its fairly obvious to anyone, that Kerry having a seeded munster championship to avoid the next best Munster team, followed by a seeding in the All IReland - gives them an advantage over everybody else. Even Dublin, who dominate Leinster, still have to play 6/7 counties who count Gaelic Football as their main sport. Kerry don't have a single football county to play in Munster, so will always dominate. Should the Connacht Hurling championship be reinstated so Galway can justify a hand draw into the latter stages of the Hurling championship? Obviously not. All of the provincials should be seeded or none - put it to a vote at congress and I'll bet the majority will vote for no seeding. tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1827 - 21/05/2026 13:09:42 2674496 Link 0 |
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His point seems to be because Kerry don't win the All Ireland every single year its not an issue, or at least that's what I got from the waffle.
JimB1991 (Donegal) - Posts: 174 - 21/05/2026 13:32:05 2674504 Link 0 |