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Replying To Tadhg2020:  "Now how can anyone respond to one anecdotal example without knowing anything about the offence charged with, offender, probation report, mitigating circumstances etc.
As I've said before, serious criminals dont tend to accumulate 147 previous convictions. Habitual petty criminals do. Thats just a fact. Serious crimes carry lengthy sentences. Less serious crimes carry shorter or non custodial sentences. Then there is the entitlement to bail and the presumption of innocence.
Nobody wants dangerous convicted criminals in society but there is due process. There is also a limited number of prison spaces. Thats a reality."
You only seem concerned for the welfare of the career criminal, I haven't seen any concern for the innocent victims who are left behind after crimes by these 'petty' criminals, victims who suffer stress or struggle to sleep at night following a burglary or following an assault outside the local Aldi shop. These 'Petty' criminals prey on the weak or vulnerable, and the law protects them from being dealt with more brutally.

I understand due process, which I welcome in vast majority of legal cases. However I think by the time some career criminal reaches 100 previous convictions, as punishment, they should lose such civil privileges and be presumed guilty until proven innocent.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1827 - 12/05/2026 23:54:22    2672702

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Replying To Tadhg2020:  "Now how can anyone respond to one anecdotal example without knowing anything about the offence charged with, offender, probation report, mitigating circumstances etc.
As I've said before, serious criminals dont tend to accumulate 147 previous convictions. Habitual petty criminals do. Thats just a fact. Serious crimes carry lengthy sentences. Less serious crimes carry shorter or non custodial sentences. Then there is the entitlement to bail and the presumption of innocence.
Nobody wants dangerous convicted criminals in society but there is due process. There is also a limited number of prison spaces. Thats a reality."
I don't know whether you mean to or not, but you sound like you are giving serial offenders a free pass because they maybe petty crimes. Are there no victims to consider ? It is our justice system their to protect all of us. If some of these serial offenders went to jail that would have reduced the amount of crimes they could commit and in turn reduce the amount of victims.

Yesterday a man was sentenced to 5 years for a hit and run where a 34 year old mother was killed
''The court was told that he had 16 previous convictions, including five under the Road Traffic Act, two under the Larceny Act and others connected to Covid regulations while operating a licensed premises''

5 of these previous convictions show a clear disregard for driving on our road, maybe if we were a little less lenient on these that man would have learned is lesson, but we where lenient and he clearly did not and unfortunately a young mother paid the price. In my opinion we need to be a little less lenient as the current position is not working with reoffenders.

ulsterrules (Donegal) - Posts: 281 - 13/05/2026 09:31:29    2672722

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