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Replying To tearintom: "No offence meant to the poster here but if you want to grow hurling we need to get away from this thinking. This idea that its unique, can't be learned unless you have a hurl from birth, its not possible unless you've done this or that by whatever age etc etc. Its the same elitist message hurljng has a tendency to preach which hinders the very development of the game. Clubs hear this and say sure why bother? No point, its too late. The message should be yes, you can hurl, anyone can hurl, you can start hurling whenever you want, its isnt this mystical achievement beset by rules of engagement, just get them playing the game and jt will grow. Hurling loves nothing more than putting up barriers of greatness to people and wonder why we can't grow the game." I lived with 2 Aussies and brought them to the park some evenings with 3 hurls. By the end of it, 1 of them was hitting the ball really well on one side out of his hand. He never held a hurl although he did play cricket. My father asked a Polish family who moved to our village and their boy was 9-10 and somebody in the village told him to go play soccer because it was "too late" for him to start hurling. Where do we get these numpties. StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1977 - 20/03/2026 14:38:42 2661941 Link
Replying To omahant: "Recent Div 1A result Galw 0-35 Kilk 0-17 That's 52 scores with no goals. If football brings in 4-pts goals, it may not be enough incentive in hurling - should hurling go to 5-pts goals?" Interesting that certain teams seem to target goals more than others. Cork certainly, Dublin in the lower division. Cats were always great men for the goals but only four in five games so far! Limerick have since Kiely taken the % view that point taking is the optimum strategy and they have the capability of running up huge totals, Goals certainly add to the game and would be very dull if trend continues. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 4084 - 20/03/2026 15:41:34 2661949 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "They should grow a pair and push for an expanded Leinster. It is a Leinster matter. 1. Antrim home semi final v Westmeath 2. Carlow home semi final v Laois 3. Laois 4. Westmeath -------- 5. Down 6. Kerry 7. Meath -------- 8. London relegated to Ring. GAA HQ were considering a later Joe Mac final a few years back if the preliminary quarter finals were chopped. Would like to see a later Joe Mac final back on the agenda with 2 more counties included." If that ever happens then leinster should be stripped of one of their all ireland series places. Only the leinster finalists qualifying for the quarter finals or something like that. The reason for the introduction of the christy ring, Nicky Rackard and Lory Meagher cup championships and later the Joe McDonagh is to ensure merit based competition. I get that you dont like it that Kerry are now in the Christy Ring cup but if your proposition ever sees the light of day then the Bob O Keefe cup will become the Joe McDonagh and will have to be treated accordingly. Tadhg2020 (Limerick) - Posts: 85 - 20/03/2026 16:13:33 2661962 Link
Replying To StoreysTash: "I lived with 2 Aussies and brought them to the park some evenings with 3 hurls. By the end of it, 1 of them was hitting the ball really well on one side out of his hand. He never held a hurl although he did play cricket. My father asked a Polish family who moved to our village and their boy was 9-10 and somebody in the village told him to go play soccer because it was "too late" for him to start hurling. Where do we get these numpties." There's plenty of them around sadly. We have a couple of Ukrainians and a Nigerian on our u14 panel who only started hurling last year. One of them made the county u14 Football squad this year, a brilliant achievement after only playing football for a year. If they keep improving at the rate they have over the last year they will be better than half the lads who are with us since u8. They are better than some of them already, but thats because they pay close attention in training, and practice what they are shown at home. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18792 - 20/03/2026 16:34:11 2661966 Link
Replying To omahant: "Recent Div 1A result Galw 0-35 Kilk 0-17 That's 52 scores with no goals. If football brings in 4-pts goals, it may not be enough incentive in hurling - should hurling go to 5-pts goals?" Or would that just result in teams setting up even more defensively to prevent goals? Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18792 - 20/03/2026 16:35:19 2661967 Link
Replying To Tadhg2020: "If that ever happens then leinster should be stripped of one of their all ireland series places. Only the leinster finalists qualifying for the quarter finals or something like that. The reason for the introduction of the christy ring, Nicky Rackard and Lory Meagher cup championships and later the Joe McDonagh is to ensure merit based competition. I get that you dont like it that Kerry are now in the Christy Ring cup but if your proposition ever sees the light of day then the Bob O Keefe cup will become the Joe McDonagh and will have to be treated accordingly." The following was based on no changes to the Munster and Leinster championships. Joe Mac (1 single group of 8 teams over 7 rounds) 1. Antrim home semi final v Westmeath 2. Carlow home semi final v Laois 3. Laois 4. Westmeath -------- 5. Down 6. Kerry 7. Meath -------- 8. London relegated to Ring. Joe Mac winner promoted to their provincial championship. Kerry in the Ring is like Wexford relegated from Leinster. We'll get on with it but are the tiered structures overly tiered.. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 9546 - 20/03/2026 16:59:12 2661970 Link
Interesting article on GAA.ie yesterday about Mount Sion CBS. Its one of the pillars of waterford hurling traditionally but competed in the All Ireland D final today against Ballyhale. Thats a strange line up for a D Final tbh but anyway. There are 480 boys in the school and only about 10% hurl. Thats a frightening statistic. The Mount Sion Gaa catchment area is now an older area population wise but , clearly, the city clubs are not getting the young people in. The school traditionally had players from Mount Sion, Roanmore, Erin's Own and St Saviours but now those that hurl are almost exclusively Mount Sion players. No wonder Ballygunner are so dominant. Waterford need a strong Mount Sion and hurling needs a competitive Waterford. Tadhg2020 (Limerick) - Posts: 85 - 20/03/2026 17:45:03 2661974 Link
Replying To StoreysTash: "I lived with 2 Aussies and brought them to the park some evenings with 3 hurls. By the end of it, 1 of them was hitting the ball really well on one side out of his hand. He never held a hurl although he did play cricket. My father asked a Polish family who moved to our village and their boy was 9-10 and somebody in the village told him to go play soccer because it was "too late" for him to start hurling. Where do we get these numpties." Sean og o halpin only started at under 14 Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4330 - 20/03/2026 19:33:52 2661985 Link
Replying To Tadhg2020: "If that ever happens then leinster should be stripped of one of their all ireland series places. Only the leinster finalists qualifying for the quarter finals or something like that. The reason for the introduction of the christy ring, Nicky Rackard and Lory Meagher cup championships and later the Joe McDonagh is to ensure merit based competition. I get that you dont like it that Kerry are now in the Christy Ring cup but if your proposition ever sees the light of day then the Bob O Keefe cup will become the Joe McDonagh and will have to be treated accordingly." What has Munster ever done to benefit hurling? Nothing. You banished one of your own counties. Leinster always doing all the heavy lifting to our own detriment. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4330 - 20/03/2026 19:35:35 2661986 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "The following was based on no changes to the Munster and Leinster championships. Joe Mac (1 single group of 8 teams over 7 rounds) 1. Antrim home semi final v Westmeath 2. Carlow home semi final v Laois 3. Laois 4. Westmeath -------- 5. Down 6. Kerry 7. Meath -------- 8. London relegated to Ring. Joe Mac winner promoted to their provincial championship. Kerry in the Ring is like Wexford relegated from Leinster. We'll get on with it but are the tiered structures overly tiered.." No the tiered structures aren't overly tiered. Its actually quite accurate. Yes kerry will probably win the ring but they also were deservedly relegated. 6 is the right number in each of those championships. The only thing I would consider is where the 5th game is played. In the interest of fairness they should probably look at 2 home, 2 away and 1 neutral format. I know that it would affect attendance potentially at the neutral game but it would be more fair to all concerned. Thats part of what makes the munster championship so great in this format. Each team gets 2 home and 2 away games. Noone can blame anyone but themselves as its the same conditions for everyone. If anything this probably favours waterford and Clare as they have limited capacity so can turn their home grounds into a fortress atmosphere wise. Pretty much every away fan that wants to attend can in Limerick, thurles or cork. Tadhg2020 (Limerick) - Posts: 85 - 20/03/2026 19:39:04 2661987 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "The following was based on no changes to the Munster and Leinster championships. Joe Mac (1 single group of 8 teams over 7 rounds) 1. Antrim home semi final v Westmeath 2. Carlow home semi final v Laois 3. Laois 4. Westmeath -------- 5. Down 6. Kerry 7. Meath -------- 8. London relegated to Ring. Joe Mac winner promoted to their provincial championship. Kerry in the Ring is like Wexford relegated from Leinster. We'll get on with it but are the tiered structures overly tiered.." Don't think so. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18792 - 20/03/2026 20:32:43 2661994 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "Interesting that certain teams seem to target goals more than others. Cork certainly, Dublin in the lower division. Cats were always great men for the goals but only four in five games so far! Limerick have since Kiely taken the % view that point taking is the optimum strategy and they have the capability of running up huge totals, Goals certainly add to the game and would be very dull if trend continues." In the last five or six games Limerick and Cork have played, the Shannonsiders have scored twice more goals than Cork. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4540 - 20/03/2026 22:43:18 2662005 Link

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