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Again you are putting words in my mouth. Ive already said many times that Kerry will play in Munster if they ever win the Joe McDonagh Cup. How many different ways do you want me to say it??? You conveniently dodge the prevailing point though. There are 6 teams in Leinster. There are , currently, only 5 in Munster. That means that both championships are not played to the same format. It also, currently, means that the weakest team in the overall competition is the 6th team in Leinster. Therefore, in a system that requires promotion and relegation, the 6th team in Leinster should be relegated. Tadhg2020 (Limerick) - Posts: 261 - 29/04/2026 14:38:35 2669773 Link 0 |
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That should read current form
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19381 - 29/04/2026 14:40:46 2669774 Link 0 |
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Maybe we should just go back to 5 in Leinster, which Ive always been in favour of, and 2 up from the Joe Mac each year, with the bottom county in Munster and Leinster dropping into the Joe Mac then. That way 2 counties coming up each year get the opportunity to play better teams in Championship the following year.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19381 - 29/04/2026 15:05:13 2669783 Link 0 |
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Wexfords population has dropped in most of the GAA strongholds. The population has surged in the North of the county, which has become a bit of a dormitory for lads working in Dublin. All 3 of the big clubs up that way would be Football 1st, or dual Senior. The number of players, adult and underage, that we have who only play hurling would likely be around the same as Kerry have. It would be significantly less than there are in Tipp, Waterford, or Clare. On top of that we have way more adult and underage soccer teams, more than double the number there are in Tipp or Clare. Probably more than both of them put together. Soccer has always been huge in the county. Agree with your last point though, the work has to go in at grassroots level. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19381 - 29/04/2026 15:15:41 2669791 Link 1 |
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In fairness, don't think anyone would argue that whoever ends up relegated from Leinster this year would have survived in Munster instead. And therefore, couldn't argue that sixth in Leinster isn't the weakest of the 11 teams in the top tier hurling championship. But also in fairness, it's not as simple as saying that if one competition has a smaller number of teams, another competition has a greater number, and the competitions aren't played to the same format, then the weakest team in the larger competition is the weakest overall. There are 11 teams in the Leinster Senior Football Championship. There are just six in Munster. By that "logic", the 11th-best (i.e. worst) in Leinster would be worst overall. Where would that leave Waterford? Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3559 - 29/04/2026 15:17:19 2669793 Link 1 |
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"The Munster championship is part of the All Ireland series, same as the Leinster Championship." And therein lies the problem. All this arguing, back and forth, on here about the make-up of the Munster and Leinster Championships misses the point; they are intrinsically different and not fit for purpose, nor fair nowadays, for deciding the make-up of the All-Ireland Championship. The provisional Championships should be separated from, and played before the All-Ireland series. Probably instead of the National League. The All-Ireland series should have equal number seeded groups, followed by a knock-out phase. You can debate about how many counties qualify, and from where, and how they are seeded, but that's a minor and easily sorted issue. Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2874 - 29/04/2026 15:57:58 2669813 Link 1 |
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Always good to get a reaction from you B n B. I did respond, wishing both Cork players the best of their injuries and recoveries. As regards the match, Cork deserved it: better team on the day and better discipline. Lynch's red card was the correct and only decision there. Another Limk player might have gone for elbowing back (2nd half...could be Daragh O'Donovan but not 100% on that). But we didn't like to see a big strong man like Sean O'Donoghue fall down like a stuck pig when Shane O'Brien didn't even make contact. You never saw the Rock at that lark. You can say that every team does it, but of late most teams don't; Clare still at it, though. In fairness to Tipp, and I dislike them too, they have never done it. That's why teams like Cork when they do it, it turns ppl against them. Even the commentator mentioned it, that there is no place in the game for falling around like that. Could be a blessing in disguise for Limerick. They blew the heads off Cork last year in the round robin. What good did that do Limerick in the long run? It just lulled them into a sense of false security, thinking that they could produce such a performance any day they go out. They can't. No team is able to constantly repeat such a performance---but they had been waiting since the semi-final the previous year and were gunning for Cork. Lots of hurling to be done yet, boy. foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2506 - 29/04/2026 16:02:45 2669817 Link 0 |