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Replying To ElGranSenor: "On a serious note, I know some are opposed to giving town teams help because it would involve favouritism and would discriminate against smaller, rural clubs and that is a fair argument but as someone from a non-town club, I still support it as an idea because the situation we are heading towards (Or are even at right now) is a disaster
Could have my numbers wrong but Wexford Town probably has around 20k, Enniscorthy and Gorey just over 10k and then New Ross about 7k yet just look at how they're doing right now, that's over 30% of the county's population and we're not getting much out of them
Tbf to the Harriers, the GAA set-up in Wexford Town is a mess and they'd probably be better off if they were a dual club with one of the football-only clubs being the football part of the merged club but can't see that happening
Gorey isn't quite a lost cause but they need to do more as well, the town doesn't seem to stop growing so they can't blame numbers, don't know what the deal is about St Waleran's but would be good for the county if Tara Rocks were to grow as club, likes of Castletown will continue to grow as well
Might also help if they solved those wastewater treatment issues across Ballycanew, Ferns, and Camolin, impacts the GAA because very few estates have been built there in the last 20 years so few families moving into the villages there
Supposed to be a lot of housing being built in Enniscorthy thanks to James Browne so population won't be an excuse there although those houses could be a long way off yet" There are already alot of houses in Enniscorthy!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20705 - 17/09/2026 20:54:37
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "On a serious note, I know some are opposed to giving town teams help because it would involve favouritism and would discriminate against smaller, rural clubs and that is a fair argument but as someone from a non-town club, I still support it as an idea because the situation we are heading towards (Or are even at right now) is a disaster
Could have my numbers wrong but Wexford Town probably has around 20k, Enniscorthy and Gorey just over 10k and then New Ross about 7k yet just look at how they're doing right now, that's over 30% of the county's population and we're not getting much out of them
Tbf to the Harriers, the GAA set-up in Wexford Town is a mess and they'd probably be better off if they were a dual club with one of the football-only clubs being the football part of the merged club but can't see that happening
Gorey isn't quite a lost cause but they need to do more as well, the town doesn't seem to stop growing so they can't blame numbers, don't know what the deal is about St Waleran's but would be good for the county if Tara Rocks were to grow as club, likes of Castletown will continue to grow as well
Might also help if they solved those wastewater treatment issues across Ballycanew, Ferns, and Camolin, impacts the GAA because very few estates have been built there in the last 20 years so few families moving into the villages there
Supposed to be a lot of housing being built in Enniscorthy thanks to James Browne so population won't be an excuse there although those houses could be a long way off yet" When I was playing underage the harriers and the sars were practically the one club but times have certainly changed.
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Replying To Doylerwex: "When I was playing underage the harriers and the sars were practically the one club but times have certainly changed." That actually throws up something else I noticed in the U10 Go Games book.
In Wexford town, for hurling, the numbers were 36 for Faythe Harriers and 10 for Na Fianna Clonard.
For football, it was 31 for Volunteers, 16 for St. Joseph's, 15 for St. Mary's, and just 7 for Sarsfields.
First thing is, wonder why so many are going to Volunteers, and so few to Sarsfields?
Second thing is, that makes 69 altogether for football, but just 46 for hurling. In other words, one-third of the boys of that age in Wexford town who "do GAA" don't actually do hurling. That in itself should be concerning.
On the other hand, I'm one of the people who ElGranSenor refers to as not being in favour of extra supports for town teams basically just because they're town teams. Will take Enniscorthy as the example here.
Monageer-Boolavogue have probably caught up with and overtaken Rapparees in the underage grades in recent years. Would it be fair on them if County Board put in supports specifically to help the Rapps develop things, such that they pass Monageer back out and start doing better than them again in five or ten years, largely off the back of supports that were never offered to Monageer in the first place?
I think not.
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Replying To Pikeman96: "That actually throws up something else I noticed in the U10 Go Games book.
In Wexford town, for hurling, the numbers were 36 for Faythe Harriers and 10 for Na Fianna Clonard.
For football, it was 31 for Volunteers, 16 for St. Joseph's, 15 for St. Mary's, and just 7 for Sarsfields.
First thing is, wonder why so many are going to Volunteers, and so few to Sarsfields?
Second thing is, that makes 69 altogether for football, but just 46 for hurling. In other words, one-third of the boys of that age in Wexford town who "do GAA" don't actually do hurling. That in itself should be concerning.
On the other hand, I'm one of the people who ElGranSenor refers to as not being in favour of extra supports for town teams basically just because they're town teams. Will take Enniscorthy as the example here.
Monageer-Boolavogue have probably caught up with and overtaken Rapparees in the underage grades in recent years. Would it be fair on them if County Board put in supports specifically to help the Rapps develop things, such that they pass Monageer back out and start doing better than them again in five or ten years, largely off the back of supports that were never offered to Monageer in the first place?
I think not." I don't think its support aimed at or just for towns clubs it's fir the greater good of gaa. . It's more support for gaa in general to revive our games in our largest populated areas . True the beneficiaries would be towns clubs in theory although if done in primarry schools a lot of those pupils will falll into sourounding clubs on outskitrts so.would bendfit those clubs too .
If nothing is done it ll just stay the same or deteriorate . And childen that could ve been encouraged slop through the net .
Again if it doesn't help my club of may hinder our progress I m against it . Just like championship formats thst give my club best chance of making knock out .
I d be for any supports if it guaranteed more participation regardless of who they played for .
Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 703 - 18/09/2026 12:58:13
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Replying To Doylerwex: "When I was playing underage the harriers and the sars were practically the one club but times have certainly changed." How many of the current Harriers team play for the Sars, how many play for Maudlintown, and how many don't play football at all?
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1529 - 18/09/2026 13:08:35
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Replying To Pikeman96: "That actually throws up something else I noticed in the U10 Go Games book.
In Wexford town, for hurling, the numbers were 36 for Faythe Harriers and 10 for Na Fianna Clonard.
For football, it was 31 for Volunteers, 16 for St. Joseph's, 15 for St. Mary's, and just 7 for Sarsfields.
First thing is, wonder why so many are going to Volunteers, and so few to Sarsfields?
Second thing is, that makes 69 altogether for football, but just 46 for hurling. In other words, one-third of the boys of that age in Wexford town who "do GAA" don't actually do hurling. That in itself should be concerning.
On the other hand, I'm one of the people who ElGranSenor refers to as not being in favour of extra supports for town teams basically just because they're town teams. Will take Enniscorthy as the example here.
Monageer-Boolavogue have probably caught up with and overtaken Rapparees in the underage grades in recent years. Would it be fair on them if County Board put in supports specifically to help the Rapps develop things, such that they pass Monageer back out and start doing better than them again in five or ten years, largely off the back of supports that were never offered to Monageer in the first place?
I think not." Well, maybe there should be a GPO for each district with an increased focus on town schools
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1529 - 18/09/2026 13:09:50
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "How many of the current Harriers team play for the Sars, how many play for Maudlintown, and how many don't play football at all?" Looking at this weeks programme, there is 13 lads on Sars senior panel that are on Harriers senior panel. Would be missing the likes of Clancy, Chin, Heffernan who don't seem to play football anymore
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Replying To btwex90: "Looking at this weeks programme, there is 13 lads on Sars senior panel that are on Harriers senior panel. Would be missing the likes of Clancy, Chin, Heffernan who don't seem to play football anymore" Looking back on the hurling programme and there is only 4/5 on harriers panel that don't or never did play for Sarsfields
btwex90 (Wexford) - Posts: 59 - 18/09/2026 14:00:24
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Replying To btwex90: "Looking at this weeks programme, there is 13 lads on Sars senior panel that are on Harriers senior panel. Would be missing the likes of Clancy, Chin, Heffernan who don't seem to play football anymore" That ratio changes an awful lot as you go down through the ages.
A good few of our younger lads would be without the vols.
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4674 - 18/09/2026 14:20:38
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In response to both ElGranSenor and formertownie -
First, there's some talk right now of moving to a "District model" for GPOs, but I don't know the ins and outs of it.
On the bigger picture - I'm not opposed to town clubs electing to make greater use of the supports that are already available, and if necessary, paying for it where appropriate (e.g. more GPO support = more cost). So long as these same supports remain available to other clubs in other areas too, should they choose to avail of them. While I can see both sides of the argument too, I'd still be opposed to seeing extra supports go to town clubs and just to town clubs, just because they're town clubs.
If the idea is to recruit and develop more young players in areas where only a small percentage of potential players actually play -
I recently heard of a case of a rural National School where there are 26 boys between 5th and 6th Class, but only seven of them play with the local club. Would that club not deserve the same sort of support?
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 4049 - 18/09/2026 14:35:32
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Replying To Pikeman96: "That actually throws up something else I noticed in the U10 Go Games book.
In Wexford town, for hurling, the numbers were 36 for Faythe Harriers and 10 for Na Fianna Clonard.
For football, it was 31 for Volunteers, 16 for St. Joseph's, 15 for St. Mary's, and just 7 for Sarsfields.
First thing is, wonder why so many are going to Volunteers, and so few to Sarsfields?
Second thing is, that makes 69 altogether for football, but just 46 for hurling. In other words, one-third of the boys of that age in Wexford town who "do GAA" don't actually do hurling. That in itself should be concerning.
On the other hand, I'm one of the people who ElGranSenor refers to as not being in favour of extra supports for town teams basically just because they're town teams. Will take Enniscorthy as the example here.
Monageer-Boolavogue have probably caught up with and overtaken Rapparees in the underage grades in recent years. Would it be fair on them if County Board put in supports specifically to help the Rapps develop things, such that they pass Monageer back out and start doing better than them again in five or ten years, largely off the back of supports that were never offered to Monageer in the first place?
I think not." Sars is a long walk from town
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "How many of the current Harriers team play for the Sars, how many play for Maudlintown, and how many don't play football at all?" Quite a few players for Sars, some of the lads who played for Marys seem to have given up Football.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20705 - 18/09/2026 14:42:04
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Replying To btwex90: "Looking at this weeks programme, there is 13 lads on Sars senior panel that are on Harriers senior panel. Would be missing the likes of Clancy, Chin, Heffernan who don't seem to play football anymore" Thats a fair crossover alright . Is there anyone from other 3 towns football teams involved at senior level hurling . Or Do the other football clubs discourage lads from hurling too or stick to football only or is that just a coincidence at present . Did nt vols start hurling team as an amalgamtion with clonard some years back . Would that be a possibility again in future of vols amalgamating with na fianna/clonard now that vols seem to be drawing in numbers or any of the other towns football teams either.
Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 703 - 18/09/2026 15:06:51
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Replying To Formertownie: "Thats a fair crossover alright . Is there anyone from other 3 towns football teams involved at senior level hurling . Or Do the other football clubs discourage lads from hurling too or stick to football only or is that just a coincidence at present . Did nt vols start hurling team as an amalgamtion with clonard some years back . Would that be a possibility again in future of vols amalgamating with na fianna/clonard now that vols seem to be drawing in numbers or any of the other towns football teams either." Vols played hurling for a couple of years back around 2010 but if I recall correctly, Clonard were still operating separately at the time too, so there were actually three hurling clubs in the town at the time.
Was abroad at the time myself but think it died off so quickly due to the rules governing what club(s) somebody can play with. Basically, since Vols were then a dual club, anybody playing football with them could no longer play hurling for the Harriers, and would have to stick with Vols for hurling instead. Similarly, anyone whose first priority was hurling with the Harriers could no longer choose Vols as their football club, unless they were willing to go hurling with them as well.
A few years later, there was an underage amalgamation with Clonard, called Wygram Gaels, but the same sort of things put the kibosh on it. Again, any young Vols footballer couldn't choose Harriers as his hurling club, and had to stick with the Wygram Gaels team. And any young Harriers hurler couldn't play football there, unless he hurled there too.
Basically, you can play with two different clubs if both of them are single-code clubs. But if one club is a dual club, you have to play both codes with them.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 4049 - 18/09/2026 15:31:40
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