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Agree with that, peak Cian Lynch scored 6 from play in 2021 All Ireland and assisted a massive 2-4. In my opinion he is a superior player to Horgan. Hego has also stood up and on other occasions, especially in the first final against KK when he put in one of the all time great all Ireland performances, also superior imo. Your star players get you over the line on the biggest days. The Limerick players have probably ran themselves into the ground with the intensity the played at and i don't think any Limerick player will have the longevity of a Hoggie or TJ. If you look at what Gillane contributes to the team outside of scores in comparison to Horgan, the difference is night and day. Dowling couldn't make the starting team Limerick despite his excellent scoring record as he couldn't hit the required markers for the other side of the game. Were Cork ruthless enough in that situation too over the last few years?? In saying that Hoggie is definitely a legend and in the top 10 of all time is probably fair. He has been an unbelievable servant to Cork hurling and all hurling ans in general. Fitzy01 (Limerick) - Posts: 457 - 29/09/2025 15:45:58 2637842 Link 1 |
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Patrick Horgan ia AMONG the best players to play the game and a tremendous Cork servant. However he would not be in the top ten in my life time and that is not to denegrade him in anyway. There are way too many great players that I would have to omit to to get him there.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3189 - 07/10/2025 19:00:43 2638874 Link 0 |
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He would nt even be in the top ten forwards not to mind the top ten players.He was good but no Shefflin or Canning or Tj Reid or Gillane or Eoin Kelly Tony Kelly Shane O Donnell
brayballer (Wicklow) - Posts: 360 - 07/10/2025 20:35:28 2638887 Link 0 |
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Along with those Gearoid Hegarty, DJ Carey, Ben O'Connor, Willie Dunphy, Seamie Callanan, Cathal Mannion, Cian Lynch, Lar Corbett, Joe Deane, Eddie Brennan, Tom Morrissey, Eoin Larkin, Neil Mcmanus, Noel Mcgrath, Marty Kavanagh, John Mullane, Lee Chin, Brick Walsh, Martin Comerford, Damien Hayes, Dan Shanagher and probably others I've forgotten all had or have varying different types of X factor also. Picking a top 10 forwards from all of those is impossible, and purely subjective if tried. But Pa Horgan belongs in that company for sure. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17186 - 08/10/2025 18:00:00 2638977 Link 0 |
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The term greatest or using a top any number is a completely ridiculous assessment. The term great players is correct. Before you get to the last 40 years the list of great players is long. Ring,Mackey, Rackard,Keane, Smyth, Philly Grimes,Barry,Lynch, Langton to name just some. Then you move up Keher,Billy Dwyer, Franky Walsh and on to the Richie Bennie era. The chucky O'Brien ,Franky Cummins and on to Whelahan, Dooley,Connolly's eras. That is not even mentioning greats like Joe Henry who never played in a final. All greats through to today but giving a number? Or claiming any one of them was the greatest is disrespectful to the rest. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3189 - 08/10/2025 19:31:28 2638987 Link 0 |
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These guys were all great within their own era's, its hard to compare guys from different era's. ie most of the older guys there wouldn't last in the modern game, they wouldn't be fit enough in the slightest to begin with.
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2529 - 09/10/2025 17:17:02 2639120 Link 1 |
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These guys were all great within their own era's, its hard to compare guys from different era's. ie most of the older guys there wouldn't last in the modern game, they wouldn't be fit enough in the slightest to begin with.
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2529 - 09/10/2025 17:51:22 2639127 Link 0 |
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With the same conditioning and coaching the players get today they would be just as great as any of them. They could all hurl, whether or not it was in a different era was academic. I saw Mick Jacob (Snr) pucking around a few years ago in Oulart one night. He had a first touch of a 20 year old. ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1497 - 09/10/2025 18:37:10 2639134 Link 0 |
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They would if they were in this era though. They'd be doing the same work as everyone else and then talent would shine through as always. Jessie Owens' personal best wouldn't even get him near an Olympic final these days. But he was the fastest man on earth in his own era. If he was around today, he'd be training like current athletes and would be running on modern tracks with modern gear. I'd have to imagine he'd be right up there. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2581 - 09/10/2025 19:49:24 2639140 Link 0 |
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I think of a guy like Éamonn Cregan He had a hurling brain like nobody else I have seen plus wrists As good as he was, imagine if he was playing now with all the professional preparation, coaching, fitness etc Plus the number of games players got - Cregan hurled in a relatively good period for Limerick mid 60s to early 80s but plenty of years he had one Championship game and done - according to Wikipedia in 19 seasons he played 40 Championship games Yadse (Limerick) - Posts: 198 - 10/10/2025 03:26:16 2639161 Link 0 |