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A great opportunity to progress against an average enough Cork team, the fact they didn't probably says something about our overall lack of quality or maybe it's like someone else alluded to earlier in the thread, we just lack bottle when the chips are down and we seem to wilt almost every time. Either way a very disappointing season all round.

YellowShadeOfPurple (Wexford) - Posts: 74 - 23/05/2026 17:54:07    2674807

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Fair enough, but I know you're from Taghmon-Camross, and if I'm not mistaken, you're only fielding one team in both football & hurling in the All County Leagues, not taking part in the Cross-District Junior 'B' Hurling League thing, and of course there's no corresponding competition for football, so you're not trying to field a second football team either.

Lot easier to find a squad of about 18 players for just one team in each code without resorting to Minors than it is to find 30 to 35 or more to make up two squads to field two teams."
We dont have enough players early in the year with soccer etc. We only barely have enough for 2 teams in the summer.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19764 - 23/05/2026 19:21:15    2674841

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "Or in other words - one slightly less accurate puck from an opposition free-taker, and we'd have been back in a Leinster Final. With a bunch of players who hadn't played adult hurling while still Minors.

That's a measure of how small the margin is and is as good an example as any of why I'm not convinced the change will be as significant as many seem to believe it will be."
Plainly we arent going to agree on this. But from talking to numerous people in other counties about this Im firmly of the belief it will help our u20s going forward."]Again, I've never said it won't bring any improvement.

I just believe that if it does, it'll only be a very small factor. Maybe of the order of 5% or less. But that the way other people talk, you'd think it's the one major thing that will make more difference than anything else. That's the narrative I'm challenging."]But the thing is, I'm not sure it's a case of fixing one big thing, it's more a case of fixing a load of little things

My father is a club rep at County Board meetings and he said to me after the Kinnerk Report that it was nearly a wonder we aren't even worse considering all the things that need fixing

You could nearly write a list of all the small things that are wrong, changing one thing won't mean much but changing a lot of them would

Quality of club coaching

Quality of development squad coaching

Quality of secondary school coaching

Number of development squad coaches

Number of CB-employed coaches

Number of training sessions at club level

Number of training sessions at secondary school level

Number of training sessions at development squad level

Length of training sessions at development squad level

Lack of district vs district competition at underage level?

S&C at development squad level (Was better at U20 and Minor level this year but can't drop down again, need to push on)

S&C at club level (How many clubs actually do this?)
Length of club season

Absence of hurling programmes in the winter (What Viking says Clare do, maybe ASH becomes this in time)

Number of players on development squad panels

Structure of club championship at adult level

Not enough clubs willing to do out development programmes

Not enough lads hurling off the wall at home

Lack of volunteers across the board

Hurling 365 in need of reform

I might have left out some issues, probably have, would say most people agree with the above and that they are fixable, problem is actually fixing them, I'd say we know what to do but that's a lot different to actually being able to do it"]He must've misunderstood the Report. The Report recommended less CB employed coaches, with more of an onus on teachers and clubs to take up the skack. And despite being dressed on the subject by quite a few of us who think we should enlarge our squads as other counties have done, he disagreed very strongly with us.
Our underage S and C came in for great praise in the report.
Alot of the rest of your points were put to him from the floor also.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19764 - 23/05/2026 19:27:05    2674843

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Replying To Tadhg2020:  "How many GPOs, or whatever their current title is , are employed in Wexford either directly by the county board or by the clubs/schools themselves?"
Hardly any any more. Think we maybe have only 6 or 7 employees right now on the coaching side.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19764 - 23/05/2026 19:28:26    2674844

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Replying To Formertownie:  "Ur last paragraph emphasises my point . Celric challenge players nit available to their club for game so to accompdate a 2nd hurling team . A team gives a walkover in a final or semi final leaving the rest of his team sitting at home . How are we suppose to keep lads playing if the people suppose to be helping are taking players out of the equation .
And spare a thought fir volunteers looking forward to a semi final and final and play none its not just the team conceding affected. How are we suppose to promote this league of the likelihood is the finals may not get played .
It's not right at present and to me its down to too much emphasiss on county underage.
Yes parents prob want their kids concentrating on exams . And to be honest its understandable it could influence their whole lives .
I do think players should play to get away from the pressure but that's a personal point of view ."
The finals shouldn't have been fixed for last week.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19764 - 23/05/2026 19:29:18    2674846

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Replying To tearintom:  "Minor hurlers effectively had a squad of almost 50 which is as far as i bekjeve is against co boards own rules when it comes to squad sizes and players being available for their clubs.

I've said it before there's a growing disconnect between club and county and this sort of thing isnt helping.

Our resurgence as a county has to be club driven, at the moment there an afterthought who don't matter, the disconnect is something thats self inflicted."
There's 42 on the minor/celti challenge squad. Alot Less than most other counties.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19764 - 23/05/2026 19:30:32    2674847

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Replying To Magpie2:  "Minors lose to Cork by 3 points.
It looked good for a long time but we lost control in the last 10 minutes and let them back in the game.
Cork began to dominate and got a vital goal and a few points to put them in front. We hit the net late on but then they finished us off by getting a major at the death.
We really played very well for long periods and there was some excellent performances all over the field.
Unfortunately Cork came good at the right time and we were left lacking our wounds once again."
You didnt watch the game so. We hit the net at the death, not them.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19764 - 23/05/2026 19:31:38    2674848

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Replying To Viking66:  "Ah no dont agree with that at all. Intercounty minor is about developing players with the hope they will make it as Seniors. How do you develop lads if they only have one game? As well as that intercounty minor and u20 are over altogether early enough in the year. Plenty of time for all those lads to play for their clubs."
I said a small league which determines where u finish and then u get a knockout game if u lose that you are out end of story .
There are too many chances if u lose a semi you should be out.
Surely u can see my point too many in squads too many games too many players not available to their clubs for too long .
If yiu dont make squad u are only a distant thought not the foundations gaa were built on .
Have we had any success with the bigger squads no.
Make the club championship more of a priority increase the standard everything else will improve . Our obsession with county success is killing us .

Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 597 - 23/05/2026 19:35:45    2674850

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Replying To YellowShadeOfPurple:  "A great opportunity to progress against an average enough Cork team, the fact they didn't probably says something about our overall lack of quality or maybe it's like someone else alluded to earlier in the thread, we just lack bottle when the chips are down and we seem to wilt almost every time. Either way a very disappointing season all round."
If Cork are average i wont say what Wexford are just another shocking underage season just shocking

Bryson (Wexford) - Posts: 52 - 23/05/2026 19:51:26    2674854

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I see Antrim beat one of our U15 teams, am guessing it was a mixed team we had out

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1303 - 23/05/2026 19:57:37    2674855

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "I see Antrim beat one of our U15 teams, am guessing it was a mixed team we had out"
They played Antrim in Football 1 team.
Played Waterford in hurling 2 teams.

Paull (Wexford) - Posts: 282 - 23/05/2026 20:52:44    2674866

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May as well retire this forum now for the year as that's every Wexford hurling team done before a swallow has even hatched.

Just a shame we didn't beat Cork today. We normally get a few years value out of that ;D

Goreylad1985 (Wexford) - Posts: 47 - 23/05/2026 20:53:13    2674867

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Ah that was the biggest throw away I have ever seen. Cruising with 5 minutes to go and we conceded 2 4 in the last few minutes. I say even the cork management are going home tonight wondering how they manged to win that game. Bitterly disappointing

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1225 - 23/05/2026 21:41:30    2674887

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Replying To Viking66:  "You didnt watch the game so. We hit the net at the death, not them."
I did watch the game viking
Just had a senior moment.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 695 - 23/05/2026 23:38:47    2674911

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Replying To Goreylad1985:  "May as well retire this forum now for the year as that's every Wexford hurling team done before a swallow has even hatched.

Just a shame we didn't beat Cork today. We normally get a few years value out of that ;D"
We have better hurlers than they have at that age. Shame the way it went. At least we didnt lose because we arent producing some good players ;-)

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19764 - 23/05/2026 23:43:55    2674912

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Replying To Bryson:  "If Cork are average i wont say what Wexford are just another shocking underage season just shocking"
We had a couple weak players in certain positions. That doesn't make them rest of them poor.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19764 - 23/05/2026 23:44:56    2674913

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Replying To Formertownie:  "I said a small league which determines where u finish and then u get a knockout game if u lose that you are out end of story .
There are too many chances if u lose a semi you should be out.
Surely u can see my point too many in squads too many games too many players not available to their clubs for too long .
If yiu dont make squad u are only a distant thought not the foundations gaa were built on .
Have we had any success with the bigger squads no.
Make the club championship more of a priority increase the standard everything else will improve . Our obsession with county success is killing us ."
We haven't got bigger squads. Most of the other top counties have way bigger squads than ours.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19764 - 23/05/2026 23:45:45    2674914

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Replying To Viking66:  "Plainly we arent going to agree on this. But from talking to numerous people in other counties about this Im firmly of the belief it will help our u20s going forward."
Again, I've never said it won't bring any improvement.

I just believe that if it does, it'll only be a very small factor. Maybe of the order of 5% or less. But that the way other people talk, you'd think it's the one major thing that will make more difference than anything else. That's the narrative I'm challenging."]But the thing is, I'm not sure it's a case of fixing one big thing, it's more a case of fixing a load of little things

My father is a club rep at County Board meetings and he said to me after the Kinnerk Report that it was nearly a wonder we aren't even worse considering all the things that need fixing

You could nearly write a list of all the small things that are wrong, changing one thing won't mean much but changing a lot of them would

Quality of club coaching

Quality of development squad coaching

Quality of secondary school coaching

Number of development squad coaches

Number of CB-employed coaches

Number of training sessions at club level

Number of training sessions at secondary school level

Number of training sessions at development squad level

Length of training sessions at development squad level

Lack of district vs district competition at underage level?

S&C at development squad level (Was better at U20 and Minor level this year but can't drop down again, need to push on)

S&C at club level (How many clubs actually do this?)
Length of club season

Absence of hurling programmes in the winter (What Viking says Clare do, maybe ASH becomes this in time)

Number of players on development squad panels

Structure of club championship at adult level

Not enough clubs willing to do out development programmes

Not enough lads hurling off the wall at home

Lack of volunteers across the board

Hurling 365 in need of reform

I might have left out some issues, probably have, would say most people agree with the above and that they are fixable, problem is actually fixing them, I'd say we know what to do but that's a lot different to actually being able to do it"]He must've misunderstood the Report. The Report recommended less CB employed coaches, with more of an onus on teachers and clubs to take up the skack. And despite being dressed on the subject by quite a few of us who think we should enlarge our squads as other counties have done, he disagreed very strongly with us.
Our underage S and C came in for great praise in the report.
Alot of the rest of your points were put to him from the floor also."]I wasn't saying those were the issues listed in the report, was just listing them as the issue that people think are afflicting Wexford hurling right now

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1303 - 23/05/2026 23:50:30    2674917

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Replying To Paull:  "They played Antrim in Football 1 team.
Played Waterford in hurling 2 teams."
Good spot, had incorrectly assumed it was hurling

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1303 - 23/05/2026 23:52:08    2674919

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#elgransenor sorry misread your post. Alot of those issues were put to Paul Kinnerk at the meetings, before, during and after he and Michael finalised their report.
Any of them that mightve needed any significant spending he seemed to argue against.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19764 - 24/05/2026 10:12:10    2674960

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