(Oldest Posts First) - Go To The Latest Post
|
According to secretary's report "Gate receipts increased significantly by 44%, this is due to the County Finals in both codes being held post September 30th, 2024" But wouldn't that also mean that 2025 county finals were post Sept 30th 2025 so wouldn't be included in this years figrues? MyOhMi (Wexford) - Posts: 271 - 03/12/2025 14:05:59 2646894 Link 0 |
|
Clubber money being accounted for maybe?? Don't even know what if anything that entails but they show far more hurling than football for example. Seems odd. tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1598 - 03/12/2025 14:57:22 2646905 Link 0 |
|
Clubbertv is paid for by people paying to view games, and by advertising revenue, which is also based on viewing numbers. That's why there is more hurling than football on it in Wexford.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17689 - 03/12/2025 16:02:05 2646920 Link 0 |
|
I'd expect so. If the financial reporting year goes from 1st October of one year to 30th September of the next, then income from this year's County Finals wouldn't be in the report just published either.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3289 - 03/12/2025 16:57:47 2646932 Link 0 |
|
"Streaming income" is accounted for on a separate line, so it can't be that. Says it was €105,931 this year - up from €50,049 last year. However, what's put down as "Streaming Costs" were also up - €43,398 this year but only €16,936 last year. I don't know what way that works, but I know somebody who should know. Will ask him when I see him again. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3289 - 03/12/2025 17:00:04 2646933 Link 0 |
|
If anything there were more at football games than ever before with the new rules. Remember being at a few hurling championship games and being suprised at the lack of people at the games. Perhaps there trying to push a narrative.
WexMurph (Wexford) - Posts: 326 - 03/12/2025 18:14:46 2646943 Link 0 |
|
These figures and gate receipts figures include the back end of 2024 can't be relied on as a basis of comparison. I have a feeling that our finances are heading downhill in reality. Attendances this year were poor at the games I was at. Also ticket prices charged for county finals were too high. Clubber being available on dodgy boxes has more people watching the games for nothing aswell. Wexford gaa losing out big time. No hype about this years championships either.
Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 543 - 03/12/2025 20:24:46 2646957 Link 0 |
|
Yeah wasn't sure if it was but thought it might. As I said, it does seem odd. tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1598 - 03/12/2025 21:07:04 2646961 Link 0 |
|
Anyone here anything on the Geraldine O Hanrahans don't quote me on this but is it true they folded and potentially won't have any team playing at any grade next year? Hurler20 (Wexford) - Posts: 4 - 03/12/2025 21:12:25 2646963 Link 0 |
|
In fairness, accusing them of deliberately falsifying audited accounts would be a fairly serious accusation. So as odd as the figures may seem, I'd expect they're accurate all right. Have been thinking about it myself. Remember they cover games from 1st October 2024 to 30th September 2025, because that's the accounting year. So, they'd include this year's hurling preliminary quarter-finals, quarter-finals, and relegation finals. But for football, they'd only include the five rounds of group games, as the quarter-finals weren't played until the first weekend of October. I'd imagine that explains it, and particularly why income from football was down for the accounting year even if crowds at football were up a bit for the year as a whole. Any "bounce" in gate receipts from bigger crowds at this year's football knockout rounds and county finals would be going into next year's accounts instead. And have figured out that Secretary's remark re. county finals too, and how it accounts for the big bounce in hurling receipts. In 2023, hurling finals were played in August (it was the last of the split season years), so county final income would have been in the 2023 accounts. And there'd have been no "county final money" in the 2024 accounts at all, as there were no hurling county finals played between 1st October 2023 and 30th September 2024. But now all hurling games from October 2024 are showing up in the accounts just published. And they not only include county finals, but semi-finals, quarter-finals, and relegation finals as well. Hope I'm explaining this properly! It all comes back to how it's confusing that the accounting people consider a year from 1st October to 30th September, while the rest of us consider the year only starting on 1st January. But it does actually make sense when you understand it this way. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3289 - 04/12/2025 12:18:23 2647009 Link 0 |
|
Its sad lads won't just pay the 150 euro for clubber. To support ourselves as a county, and to support clubber too. Since clubber came along Ive got to see schools and club games from all over the country, plus other county's minor and u20 teams local and intercounty games. Its even handy to look back at upcoming opponents games!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17689 - 04/12/2025 13:34:14 2647031 Link 0 |
|
They should have explained this with the figures. They are right but no harm in explaining them to people either. Dosent look good for football in the county that's already struggling, then and again you'd hear rumours that Wexford is trying to move away from being a dual county.
WexMurph (Wexford) - Posts: 326 - 04/12/2025 14:27:05 2647035 Link 0 |
|
Tbf, I'd nearly argue how could we be moving away from being a dual county when we were never really a dual county in the first place
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 721 - 04/12/2025 15:09:00 2647040 Link 0 |
|
Have noticed a shift towards hurling with our younger lads also, and we would have been more a Football leaning club traditionally. Suppose it can change over time. We were definitely a Football 1st county up until the 1940s, Hurling became more popular here as we moved towards the 1950s. Think Hurling has probably been more popular here overall since then.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17689 - 04/12/2025 15:34:47 2647046 Link 0 |
|
Probably the case we don't have the population to be consistently successful at both. We were either mainly a Football county, or mainly a Hurling county, historically. In terms of what our playing population play we are probably the most dual county in Ireland still though. The vast majority of our players from u6 up to lads in their early 40s play both. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17689 - 04/12/2025 15:38:22 2647048 Link 0 |
|
And I'm sure they will explain this at Convention, if asked. That's one of the main functions of Convention - to review the audited financial reports of the previous year, and answer any queries arising. It's not all about motions and U18s! Don't know if you've ever seen the financial reports, but this year's one that was circulated to clubs runs to 31 pages, and 15 of those pages are made up of just accounting lines with relevant figures. If it takes that much explaining above for just two of the lines, then you can imagine the size the overall report would have to be if it went into full detail on everything that might be asked. And they'd probably be accused by somebody then of trying to bury stuff in the middle of a 250 or more page document, instead of just putting out the figures. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3289 - 04/12/2025 15:42:20 2647050 Link 0 |
|
Gate receipts are a big one. Gauges what interest there is a particular code but also how much money the county board are making from club games involving amateur players.
WexMurph (Wexford) - Posts: 326 - 04/12/2025 17:32:01 2647063 Link 0 |
|
The County Board don't make anything from any games. They are volunteers the same as the players.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17689 - 04/12/2025 21:53:52 2647082 Link 0 |
|
Not sure what to make of the tone of your final line. Are you implying that it's somehow immoral or wrong to make money from the efforts of amateur players? Because other key things in the accounts show just how much is spent on amateur players. In particular, more than €1.5 million on county teams, and remember, they're all amateur players too. That's more than twice the total income from every club match played in the county, and club season ticket sales. How do you propose to keep our county teams on the road if there's no charge or a lower charge for club matches? Or also what's spent on facilities for those amateur players and their clubs to use. €136,000 on upkeep of Wexford Park, for amateur club players to play there was well as our amateur county teams. €25,000 on St. Patrick's Park, €176,000 on the Centre of Excellence, and €130,000 for groundskeepers to keep them all maintained. Maybe I'm picking up the tone of your post wrongly, but if you've an idea how to pay for all these things (and much more besides) if you drop the price of going to club matches, I'm sure they'd love to hear it. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3289 - 04/12/2025 22:49:01 2647092 Link 0 |
|
I get what you're saying but I think the question is if the tickets were half the price would twice as many people go? The costs associate with opening the park are the same regardless of attendance. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4058 - 05/12/2025 08:11:48 2647099 Link 0 |