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IF the system allows Cavan to progress with a -20 odd scoring difference over Mayo on 0(or thereabouts). Then there is something seriously wrong with the system. The system punished Mayo for a bad performance v Cavan and allows Cavan not turn up for the rest of their matches. Clare can get through if they beath Louth, despite being brutal in both of their other matches. tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1426 - 04/06/2025 11:55:00 2614785 Link 0 |
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Galway will be Armagh because they will rest their main players as they already have top position in the group secured....
Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 530 - 04/06/2025 12:08:22 2614788 Link 0 |
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I doubt if he is quaking in his boots at the thought of playing Mayo. Your one big match per season has gone.
Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 530 - 04/06/2025 12:11:01 2614789 Link 1 |
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Cavan beat Mayo in your own back yard. Don't be blaming other people for your bad performance. Mayo knew the rules before the matches began. If you loose in 2 weeks you have no one to blame but yourselves.
Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 530 - 04/06/2025 12:15:28 2614790 Link 1 |
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Thats the beauty of this system. Every game counts as Mayo may find out. Mayo knew they had to beat Cavan to be sure to getting in the top 3. They as usual couldnt deal with the jeopardy. Go beat Donegal and you still will be in, likely topping the group. Fantastic system. What a weekend of games coming, next week.
ORIELMAN85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 581 - 04/06/2025 12:35:12 2614798 Link 1 |
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Should we invent a system where the team with the best score difference wins Sam? Beating teams when it matters is overrated. Teams should be cut some slack for bad performances. Have them scrubbed off the record on an ad hoc basis depending how the wind is blowing.. There could be a tribunal type thing after matches where counties can put forward their case. Aw but we didn't play well and they were very good, so unfair! Maybe Donegal's score difference should be donated to Mayo if it's not being used a la proportional representation. Balance things up against a very obvious, if hypothetical for the moment, injustice. Hard to know what to do really but it seems head-to-head matches and the same rules for everyone isn't to everyone's liking Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12376 - 04/06/2025 12:41:15 2614801 Link 2 |
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Clare have lost 3 games and should be out. 3 out of 4 getting out of the groups is ridiculous despite Cavan and Derry/Galway making their groups more exciting. Last year Roscommon on 3 losses played off against Cavan on 3 losses to get out of the group. Both in 2024 should have been put out of their misery after Round 2. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8891 - 04/06/2025 12:57:05 2614809 Link 0 |
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Again incorrect, he directly faced the RTE cameras after both defeats last year, which accounted for 100% of our losses last year. This year he didn't speak to RTE after the Monaghan win (Neil McGee) and after the Down win (Colm McFadden), but I think that was just because RTE needed an interview immediately. Considering he has missed RTE interviews after a good few wins, you need to improve your homework. Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1365 - 04/06/2025 13:07:18 2614816 Link 1 |
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What an idiot…. Every game dose t count.. Teams loosing 3 Championship games in a row and still in the All Ireland series is a complete joke… Thank goodness the people in the know ( like myself ) never listen to someone as deluded as yourself.. Ask yourself.. if it's such a fantastic system why is it being dumped… Go back to your basketball… It's obviously run off in a similar fantastic way… Leave the serious talk to people who know the game inside out… Good lad….!
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 4011 - 04/06/2025 13:13:05 2614818 Link 0 |
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Possibly, but I certainly wouldn't bet on it based on our current form. Even if we do, Dublin would still take 2nd by beating Derry.
WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2357 - 04/06/2025 13:13:53 2614820 Link 0 |
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"they as usual couldn't deal with the jeopardy". Whatever about trols from successful counties having a pop at Mayo. When did Monaghan earn the right to be all high and mighty? Monaghan got the handiest draw anyone could wish for - two years in a row tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1426 - 04/06/2025 13:29:48 2614827 Link 0 |
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Seems very little praise from sunday game pundits for Robbie Brennan and Meath, surely the most succesful of the tailteann cup champions since it started. coming third in league, beating dublin, competeing well in leinster final and beating cork and draw with roscommon who were a div 1 team for a lot of the last 10 years seems huge progress. youd have thought the media would love to see likes of meath reawken in way galway and armagh have done in last 6 or 7 years. dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 841 - 04/06/2025 14:08:58 2614847 Link 0 |
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Just giving you the facts that every game counts in this system. It is not Monaghan that are complaining. When Cavan beat us we take our beating and get on with it. And I will have you know we are moving along nicely with our transition with the help of a great from Mayo Andy Moran. If you cant beat Cavan in your own backyard, then your biggest problem is not a Monaghan man commenting on an open forum. In case you are not aware but is likely that a special Congress is going to be convened later in the year with the main item on the Clár being a reversion to the present system. Maybe an opportunity for yourself to put forward a motion that 4 teams qualify from each group so that Mayo could make it out every year. Dry up your tears man.
ORIELMAN85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 581 - 04/06/2025 14:18:30 2614855 Link 0 |
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Apparent progress but the jury is still.out I think. Favourites for promotion from div2 with 2 games left and then we'll beaten in both games. Sure beat Dublin(a pale shadow of Dublin's SdamMaguire teams) in a semi only to lose to lower div2 opposition in the final. Drew with Roscommon, a team that is struggling to find any form and a win against Cork the Jekyll and Hyde of football. Signs/omens of a Meath resurgence, hardly in the top 10 IMO. sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 921 - 04/06/2025 14:57:23 2614873 Link 0 |
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Andy Moran is from Co Roscommon.
Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2378 - 04/06/2025 16:08:01 2614901 Link 0 |
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You also have to look where we started. Favs to be relegated from the league at the start, hadn't a hope of beating Dublin in Leinster, and a lot of people tipped Offaly to beat us in Leinster after losing our seeding. Most people had us probably in the Tailteann Cup again at the start of the season. So I mean I get what you mean in the sense that nobody is getting carried away, and the jury might be still out - but there's a lot of be optimistic about. A very young team, still with the players from an All Ireland minor winning team, who went close at U20 level to come through. So I think you're being a bit harsh nit picking at the wins. I can say with absolutely certainty Meath would have lost to both Roscommon and Cork in the Championship 12 months ago, and Dublin beat us by 16 points in Leinster last year. And despite how Dublin might not be what they were, they're still a good team, and there's not many better than them. So we're doing the right things and moving in the right direction. But progress isn't a button you push that yields instant results - it takes time. We lost half our coaching staff before the Leinster Championship, and Robbie Brennan is in his first year. I think most Meath fans are happy where we are. But for Louth we'd be Leinster Champions, and in Division 1 next year. So progress is there, just needs to continue. Cabbagepatch1667 (Meath) - Posts: 20 - 04/06/2025 16:15:08 2614903 Link 0 |
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Show me your medals
tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1426 - 04/06/2025 16:30:44 2614906 Link 0 |
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Nice Accumulator with Paddy Power - tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1426 - 04/06/2025 16:35:47 2614908 Link 0 |
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Got handy draws but will never win anything regardless…. Do yourself a favour baron and totally ignore that fool… When someone claims basketball is more entertaining than hurling you know you're dealing with a person who hasn't a clue about anything GAA…. Mayo had a great win last weekend and still have a chance of progressing , unfortunately it would be at our expense..!!!
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 4011 - 04/06/2025 16:46:03 2614910 Link 0 |
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Both the provincial championships and the league feed into the All Ireland series so why are the losses in the provincial championship counted but not those in the league. Based on that count, Kerry also have three losses. And why are two losses in the group such a barrier anyway. Even if two teams of the four were progressing, a team could still lose twice in the group and progress if one team got 6 points and the others all got 2. In fact, a team could top the group with no wins at all if every game was a draw. What does it matter how many wins or losses there are? The aim of any competition with groups is to come ahead of enough opponents to qualify. PSG won soccer's Champions League having lost 3 times and having come 15th in the table. And not an eyelid was batted. CeachtPeile (Cavan) - Posts: 142 - 04/06/2025 17:39:23 2614923 Link 2 |