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Imo with ladies football as an example with these ads. It's trying far too hard to sell it as being the same thing as the mens game which it's not. If it was marketed for what it is and it's own game it might get better results. There's also this opinion out there that more men have to support it, not should support it but have to. Yet I would say there's just as many if not more men involved with ladies football than women. oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1617 - 06/05/2025 19:05:20 2607205 Link 3 |
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If they stood firm and refused to change they would have been branded a pressure groupe, if it worked for them and they got what they wanted then another perssure groupe would pop up looking for something else. Dialogue is the way to go. Comparatively, in every walk of life today women's street fashion finds another meaning for the word "Comfortable" supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3178 - 06/05/2025 20:22:12 2607218 Link 1 |
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goreyll (Wexford) - Posts: 155 - 06/05/2025 20:54:36 2607222 Link 0 |
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I mean there's a lot more potential to Cùl Camps than they are realising. Some parents with young children not even knowing what they are other than quality school bags and gear. Smaller clubs not dropping in to Cúl Camps in some bigger towns to talk to parents living near the clubs. A friendly face telling them about the nursery, training times, for boys and girls. Our eldest girl went to two Cúl Camps close by and no one from the local club said hello there. If it wasn't for COVID and karate cancelled in school she wouldn't have tried LGFA. And the club are great. Nursery coach has a load of used boots that he'll give to parents bringing children to try LGFA. Plenty of children go to Cúl Camps and then forget about them and play other sports becsause their parents not knowing enough about their nearest GAA club. Plenty of GAA people are well aware about Cúl Camps but non-GAA parents, who would be only too happy to havd their children involved in sports, aren't that clued in. Cúl Camps are a great way to introduce them. Keeping them right up until adult teams is another challenge.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7970 - 06/05/2025 22:17:02 2607244 Link 0 |
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They certainly have.
ORIELMAN85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 498 - 07/05/2025 00:00:47 2607254 Link 0 |
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I see now what you mean. Thing is, clubs have little or nothing to do with Cúl Camps, other than providing the venue. They're instead co-ordinated by the County Coaching Offices, using coaches (mainly students) who are taken on for the summer, rather than club coaches. Maybe they could be better used for player recruitment (for want of a better word) all right, but realistically, you'd have to think that if you haven't got a child joined up by the time of Cúl Camp in July or August, you probably won't get them for the rest of the year either. Far better to go through the local schools early in the year, just ahead of underage training/matches starting. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2856 - 07/05/2025 10:41:23 2607291 Link 0 |
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Two motions to introduce shorts in camogie were defeated well in last year's camogie congress. That is all that matters. And if they are unhappy at these democratic votes then perhaps a change to another sport is needed I feel. boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 284 - 07/05/2025 10:54:10 2607295 Link 1 |
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The reality is the old fogies who run the Camogie association couldn't care less what the players want. The players need to show then that no players = no games. They should have refused to change at the weekend - across the board. I tried to explain to my 9 year old camogie player that she can wear shorts to school, playing GAA, tennis, soccer, basketball, athletics, camogie training - basically she can go anywhere she wants and do anything she wants wearing shorts - except playing camogie for her club. I tried to explain that the people who make these decisions grew up in a time where girls had to wear school uniforms where the skirt/dress had to cover a girls knees. When she asked why, I had to explain that some old people thought girls showing their knees off as wrong because some men like looking at womens knees. When you try to explain these stupid archaic rules, there literally is no good reason to have them. tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1382 - 07/05/2025 11:31:39 2607309 Link 0 |
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60 per cent voting against them being replaced with shorts, and 55 per cent rejecting shorts being offered as a choice alongside skorts, is hardly 'defeated well'. As for your, any dissent from the players, then they can sod off, attitude. Many probably would. Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2755 - 07/05/2025 11:37:39 2607312 Link 0 |
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How dare you tell us where to play our sport, we have a right to wear shorts just as well as you do assuming you are a male person. I for one would not like to back down on this.
bláthach (Leitrim) - Posts: 77 - 07/05/2025 12:10:34 2607322 Link 1 |
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This whole debacle would have been sorted already had the players had the conviction of their beliefs & walked off the pitch. And despite what you think, they should have, let be honest about it. It's a nonsense we're even talking about this, the choice should be there if that's what players want. There will be no games without the players.
Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1301 - 07/05/2025 12:28:09 2607331 Link 1 |
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No good reason to have them, except they have been voted to remain as is. So every single one of the people voting are old fogies? I find that hard to believe. And if that is the case why don't some of these young women put their hand up to be delegates for their club/county? Back in the old days it was a seventh wonder when the Down men wore black shorts. It simply wasn't the normal standard, just like wearing shorts for women back then. It was hardly about men seeing knees or whatever else you told that person. boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 284 - 07/05/2025 12:29:18 2607333 Link 0 |
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They can become congress delegates, and bring in whatever rules they like. Until then congress has said the status quo remains. Walking off during the national anthem isn't a great way of protesting imo
boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 284 - 07/05/2025 12:30:31 2607334 Link 0 |
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How many congress delegates are current players?
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7970 - 07/05/2025 13:30:11 2607351 Link 0 |
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How many players show up to club AGMs etc or let their county board delegate know what they want brought to congress? How many recently retired players are putting themselves forward for such roles? oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1617 - 07/05/2025 13:38:22 2607354 Link 2 |
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"Cork camogie team to wear shorts for Munster senior final this Saturday" Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2755 - 07/05/2025 13:40:02 2607355 Link 0 |
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I don't know. But players training, going to matches, playing other sports some coaching too balancing work or studies or family or mix if those don't have the time to sit on committees too. Fair play to committee members too, by the way, great volunteers, but some are out of touch with what players need. It's a very fair point about players not attending AGMs, how else are their voices gonna be heard? Camogie players should have better communicated their dislike of skorts well before the weekend. No need to be pointing fingers and blaming people. Keep out of the limelight and try resolving it. If they do there's a marketing opportunity for some sportswear brand saying they were the first brand of shorts in camogie.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7970 - 07/05/2025 13:49:10 2607361 Link 0 |
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I have absolutely no idea. But what I do know is that however many there are, there should be more.
boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 284 - 07/05/2025 13:54:56 2607363 Link 0 |
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The delegates should be canvassing the players for their views on certain motions, especially ones like this about skorts. Not all players have the time to attend meetings.
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2755 - 07/05/2025 13:54:57 2607364 Link 0 |
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Dublin camogie instructs referees to allow games go ahead even if players refuse to wear skorts Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2755 - 07/05/2025 14:05:04 2607368 Link 0 |