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Replying To Afinestick96:  "They haven't done too badly against you in the last few years for a team with ''no skill or style''"
Anytime they beat Galway it was pure fluke.
Nothing to do with skill, style or entertainment just poxy!
Was it 20pts they were beaten in a All Ireland Quarter Final one time!

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2578 - 13/05/2025 10:14:31    2609106

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Wow Katser you are the most disrespectful poster to represent Galway..I hope when you come down from that high horse you might think about what you posted but I doubt it..it looks like Galway will definitely get out of Leinster now so maybe concentrate on the days ahead instead of coming across so bitter.."
He doesn't represent Galway in any shape or form, he's an online troll and attention seeker.

Crashingwaves (Galway) - Posts: 122 - 13/05/2025 10:32:05    2609114

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Replying To katser:  "Anytime they beat Galway it was pure fluke.
Nothing to do with skill, style or entertainment just poxy!
Was it 20pts they were beaten in a All Ireland Quarter Final one time!"
Style and entertainment generally wins #### all for any team in any sport.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15829 - 13/05/2025 10:42:09    2609118

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Replying To Viking66:  "Style and entertainment generally wins #### all for any team in any sport."
Kilkenny v Dublin this weekend will be interesting to see their strengths and weakness!
Are you expecting Dublin and Wexford to win this Weekend!

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2578 - 13/05/2025 11:21:00    2609139

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Replying To katser:  "Kilkenny v Dublin this weekend will be interesting to see their strengths and weakness!
Are you expecting Dublin and Wexford to win this Weekend!"
Not neccessarily expecting, but hoping ;-)

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15829 - 13/05/2025 11:29:16    2609144

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Wow Katser you are the most disrespectful poster to represent Galway..I hope when you come down from that high horse you might think about what you posted but I doubt it..it looks like Galway will definitely get out of Leinster now so maybe concentrate on the days ahead instead of coming across so bitter.."
Idiotic to suggest that an anonymous online poster REPRESENTS Galway.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4145 - 13/05/2025 11:43:49    2609148

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Pope I don't mean to offend but that poster has a real problem it seems with every other county..even some of the stuff posted about players and clubs in Galway is diabolical..I like posting to what I'd call genuine posters from other counties who make decent points and arguments.
I am not replying to this poster any more..best of luck for rest of year pope.

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2513 - 13/05/2025 12:13:11    2609169

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Replying To Viking66:  "Not neccessarily expecting, but hoping ;-)"
Im the same its hard to see Kilkenny losing in Nowlan Park but all we can do is hope Dublin can get over their poor record over the cats and we do our job over Offaly . Then it would set up a showdown in Wexford Park next Sunday but its hard to see us turning them over this year given our performances.

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 602 - 13/05/2025 12:19:20    2609171

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Replying To Viking66:  "Not neccessarily expecting, but hoping ;-)"
It would be some craic IF Dublin WERE to beat Kilkenny and Wexford after they beat Offaly (not hoping but expecting).
Then Wexford could knockout Kilkenny and We would beat Dublin twice in PP and Leinster Final!
Makes perfect sense to me!

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2578 - 13/05/2025 12:30:01    2609176

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Replying To katser:  "Playing the dubs in hurling is like a traditional hurling club in Galway Playing a club who's first preference is football and they put in a hurling team to promote the game. No skill or style and not fully aware of the rules of the game.
Remember in my day we used to hate Playing against teams like that mostly for player safety because they would be swinging the hurl as if they were cutting nettles with a bill hook. Hitting the ball up in the air without any direction or accuracy and hoping it goes over the bar with wild mad swings!"
I've heard it all now, pathetic stuff.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2326 - 13/05/2025 13:09:59    2609197

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Replying To Canuck:  "Dublin and Offaly are coming and Leinster will be be very competitive. Carlow not far behind. It will just take one of those teams to make it and then the story will be how hard to get out of Leinster."
Dublin have already arrived. Difficult for Offaly and Carlow (and Laios, Westmeath etc.) to build an experienced team that can challenge when relegation is always on the horizon. You would have to already have the talent and experience to compete at the higher level when you are promoted - of course you only get the experience by playing at a higher level, so catch 22. In the very probable event that the promoted team isn't quiet up to pace they are relegated and have to start again. It msy take years to get back and little by little interest is lost from players, supporters and volunteers. The current system is working against these teams.
The munster championship has shown what can be achieved when teams have the chance to compete every year and I think the liked of Carlow, Laois, Offaly and zwestmeath and others have all shown that they are not too far away and have the potential to expand the championship to a wider group. It is difficult to work out how to change structure in the current calender, but maybe have three or four round Robin groups with no relegation (if you want to keep Munster at least let Kerry in). When other teams feel they are good enough to enter let them join as well. I think counties need to vote for change if they want to develop hurling beyond less than a third of counties.

Firceall (Offaly) - Posts: 38 - 13/05/2025 13:45:17    2609212

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Replying To katser:  "It would be some craic IF Dublin WERE to beat Kilkenny and Wexford after they beat Offaly (not hoping but expecting).
Then Wexford could knockout Kilkenny and We would beat Dublin twice in PP and Leinster Final!
Makes perfect sense to me!"
I honestly think that you know very little or nothing about sport.

brayballer (Wicklow) - Posts: 88 - 13/05/2025 14:41:01    2609238

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Replying To Bon:  "I've heard it all now, pathetic stuff."
Nothing new from him there tbh.

it was insulting to say the least.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4250 - 13/05/2025 15:06:49    2609243

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Firceall those with the power to change the structure will never vote to change it. Unfortunately. Because hurling will never grow if we don't try to include Offaly, Laois, Kildare, etc without relegating them over and over again.
No easy answer here

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1836 - 13/05/2025 23:47:46    2609417

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "Firceall those with the power to change the structure will never vote to change it. Unfortunately. Because hurling will never grow if we don't try to include Offaly, Laois, Kildare, etc without relegating them over and over again.
No easy answer here"
Relegation just keeps repeating up and down and stifles improvement. At least on a yearly bases. Two or three years should be the criteria. Neither should a team who are making no progress be allowed keep other teams from getting a chance at a higher level.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3046 - 14/05/2025 14:26:10    2609569

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Replying To Canuck:  "Relegation just keeps repeating up and down and stifles improvement. At least on a yearly bases. Two or three years should be the criteria. Neither should a team who are making no progress be allowed keep other teams from getting a chance at a higher level."
What happens to up and coming teams? Do you deny them the chance to get into senior championship?

I think the structures are working well and there has been quite a few different teams up and down, some more than once and some having clearly benefitted. It is close enough to league structure so that teams like Offaly and Carlow can offset poor championship years with more experience in top league tiers.


It is very difficult to make a break into very top. Dublin and Wexford are well off what it needs to win All Ireland and I doubt Galway will do any better if they qualify in third or second..

That's the way the game is. An elite sport in which it takes huge dedication to be successful.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3547 - 14/05/2025 19:24:09    2609674

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Replying To Canuck:  "Relegation just keeps repeating up and down and stifles improvement. At least on a yearly bases. Two or three years should be the criteria. Neither should a team who are making no progress be allowed keep other teams from getting a chance at a higher level."
Agree with most of that. Imagine what would have happened to Waterford if they had been relegated a few years ago. A few new players, existing players back to health and a good management structure and they are back competing. That would have been much more difficult if they had to rebuild without playing top teams. Granted Waterford and other Munster teams even when they weren't winning games didn't drop in level as some of the rest of Ireland Teams, but thst makes it even more important that those teams continue to be able to experience the pace required.
Everyone should be aware that Counties with smaller populations are going to have periods when they are uncompetitive no matter how good their structures management are. are. But when they have a golden generation, they are unlikely to achieve anything under the current format of yo-ying.
I think any championship format should have an inherent goal of expansion, so when other Teams feel they are ready to step up, they too can get a change to play at a higher level.

Firceall (Offaly) - Posts: 38 - 14/05/2025 19:32:15    2609676

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Dublin just hammered Galway in under 20 semi final.

Can't hurl can we Katser? That's hthree years in a row we baye fancied Galway lads.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3547 - 14/05/2025 19:52:25    2609678

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Replying To Past hurler:  "Loughrea couldn't handle Na Fiannas slick hurling skills and pace earlier in the year and I don't see your senior county team fairing much better v the Dubs."
Loughrea threw that game away. Game should've been over at half time. I don't begrudge na Fianna of winning, but Loughrea were the better team, they werent ruthless enough.

BigBàsMan (Galway) - Posts: 131 - 14/05/2025 21:43:39    2609705

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "What happens to up and coming teams? Do you deny them the chance to get into senior championship?

I think the structures are working well and there has been quite a few different teams up and down, some more than once and some having clearly benefitted. It is close enough to league structure so that teams like Offaly and Carlow can offset poor championship years with more experience in top league tiers.


It is very difficult to make a break into very top. Dublin and Wexford are well off what it needs to win All Ireland and I doubt Galway will do any better if they qualify in third or second..

That's the way the game is. An elite sport in which it takes huge dedication to be successful."
Of course you don't deny teams the chance of moving up. However no team should be relegated after one year. Or no team should be promoted after one year. Two years at least finishing last and two years finish first to be promoted. Yes you might end up with and extra team in either divisions at some stage but so what.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3046 - 15/05/2025 00:23:26    2609725

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