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Replying To Viking66:  "I was thinking since 2019 when we last won anything tbh. It's 3 wins 2 losses and a draw against the Cats, or over 70 minutes 3 wins 2 draws and a loss, but that sole loss was also on account of a terrible decision by the match officials, who gave a penalty for an offence that wasn't inches outside the large rectangle, it was yards.
Dublin have only lost once to Galway in that 6 year period. And won 3 times.
I won't be rushing down the bookies to back any result in the last round of Leinster games."
Sure look once you start going past 3/4 years tbh it has absolutely no resemblance to the current teams and form. I was even stretching it too far with 5 years, even that isn't recent anymore, Tipp were all Ireland champs and look how much they've changed. Go back another two years for Galway and it makes it more impressive again but does 2017/18 for Galway and 19 for us really carry relevance in todays game…probably not and tbh it's probably too much looking back to those days nearly a decade ago that's not helping either county.

Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin (Wexford) - Posts: 312 - 28/04/2025 16:05:07    2605089

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Replying To MyOhMi:  "possibly be doubled as wasn't he already red carded this year in the league?"
Think Rory O Connor and Cian Byrne were our only 2 reds this year in the league. Jacko got sent off in the league against Offaly last year.

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 541 - 28/04/2025 16:10:30    2605090

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Replying To Timbertony:  "Rory did nothing there. Dublin player tried to do him by diving. One of a number of players who did similar over the weekend. At least the pundits called it out this time."
I know Rory didn't hit him but I'm.just wondering has he not learned not to react. He sort of hit out but definitely didn't make contact. The point is some umpire could have a word with a ref snd then there's another red foe Rory

WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 363 - 28/04/2025 16:12:10    2605091

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Replying To MyOhMi:  "possibly be doubled as wasn't he already red carded this year in the league?"
He got an unfortunate red against Offally but that was last year. Did he get again this year? I can't remember

WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 363 - 28/04/2025 16:15:07    2605093

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Replying To Tiger1:  "The reason we werent in last years leinster final was we didnt win enough matches cant keep blaming officials for bigger problems we have decisions swings in roundabouts.Missing frees bad discipline bad decisions on the line cost us more last year than anything else plus poor concentration at vital times."
Agree with all that. But 2 bad decisions also cost us last year. The Dublin goal from the free shouldn't have been allowed, the free shouldve been retaken as the referee never blew his whistle to restart the game. That's in the rules. Then the penalty that wasn't in Nowlan Park. Thats in the rules also. Then the Rory sending off, in particular the 1st yellow. No malice or intent, a short player ducked into a tackle was all it was. Then there was the penalty that was but shouldn't have been up in Leitrim that cost our Footballers promotion. There was the Jacko sending off against Offaly that cost us a point also. Last year was a shocking one for us for bad refereeing, no point trying to dress it up as anything else.
This year is shaping up the same. Our minor Footballers were knocked out of Leinster because they lost to Carlow by a point. If we had drawn we would've won gone through instead of them. We scored a point that was waved wide.
Then there was the goal on Saturday that wasn't.
And as regards swings and roundabouts how many league or championship games did we win last year or this on account of bad decisions?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15507 - 28/04/2025 16:19:16    2605095

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Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin:  "Sure look once you start going past 3/4 years tbh it has absolutely no resemblance to the current teams and form. I was even stretching it too far with 5 years, even that isn't recent anymore, Tipp were all Ireland champs and look how much they've changed. Go back another two years for Galway and it makes it more impressive again but does 2017/18 for Galway and 19 for us really carry relevance in todays game…probably not and tbh it's probably too much looking back to those days nearly a decade ago that's not helping either county."
Ok. Last year we were knocked out of the Leinster Final by a shocking job of refereeing against Kilkenny. Dublin beat Galway well with no need for help from the officials.
The year before we beat Kilkenny, Dublin drew with Galway.
Is that recent enough for you?
In any case it all doesn't change the point I was making, which was that right now Galway are no more likely to beat Dublin than we are to beat Kilkenny. Obviously that might change between now and the last round of games depending on form and injuries.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15507 - 28/04/2025 16:23:51    2605098

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Replying To WEXILE:  "I know Rory didn't hit him but I'm.just wondering has he not learned not to react. He sort of hit out but definitely didn't make contact. The point is some umpire could have a word with a ref snd then there's another red foe Rory"
Yes but that edge he plays with is why he's better than around 3/4 of the rest of the team that are just way too nice on the pitch.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15507 - 28/04/2025 16:25:11    2605099

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Replying To Viking66:  "Yes but that edge he plays with is why he's better than around 3/4 of the rest of the team that are just way too nice on the pitch."
Agreed, Rory has a killer instinct mindset on the pitch, even at underage I remember he had it, he attacks every ball with ferocious aggression.

I am not sure that can be coached tbh.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 914 - 28/04/2025 16:35:23    2605106

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Replying To Viking66:  "Agree with all that. But 2 bad decisions also cost us last year. The Dublin goal from the free shouldn't have been allowed, the free shouldve been retaken as the referee never blew his whistle to restart the game. That's in the rules. Then the penalty that wasn't in Nowlan Park. Thats in the rules also. Then the Rory sending off, in particular the 1st yellow. No malice or intent, a short player ducked into a tackle was all it was. Then there was the penalty that was but shouldn't have been up in Leitrim that cost our Footballers promotion. There was the Jacko sending off against Offaly that cost us a point also. Last year was a shocking one for us for bad refereeing, no point trying to dress it up as anything else.
This year is shaping up the same. Our minor Footballers were knocked out of Leinster because they lost to Carlow by a point. If we had drawn we would've won gone through instead of them. We scored a point that was waved wide.
Then there was the goal on Saturday that wasn't.
And as regards swings and roundabouts how many league or championship games did we win last year or this on account of bad decisions?"
Yean but we always focus on decisions when we believe it costs us games and never when we win or even during games when they went in our favour. That's just human nature and happens all the time with all teams.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1946 - 28/04/2025 16:40:45    2605109

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Replying To zinny:  "Yean but we always focus on decisions when we believe it costs us games and never when we win or even during games when they went in our favour. That's just human nature and happens all the time with all teams."
Isn't it ironic that jacko was sent off ( and rightly so) after consultation with the umpires whilst last Saturday the referee refused to consult them

HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 542 - 28/04/2025 17:09:55    2605123

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Replying To WEXILE:  "I know Rory didn't hit him but I'm.just wondering has he not learned not to react. He sort of hit out but definitely didn't make contact. The point is some umpire could have a word with a ref snd then there's another red foe Rory"
If a fella hasn't learned not to react to things at this stage in his career he never will, you need to be cuter than that at this level.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2269 - 28/04/2025 17:19:49    2605126

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Replying To zinny:  "Yean but we always focus on decisions when we believe it costs us games and never when we win or even during games when they went in our favour. That's just human nature and happens all the time with all teams."
I agree in general but having been to pretty much all the games, football and hurling, minor, u20 or Senior, I actually don't remember a single controversial decision that we benefitted from in the last year or so. As in a controversial decision in our favour which won us a game, or drew us a game. Not one.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15507 - 28/04/2025 18:21:44    2605139

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Replying To Viking66:  "Agree with all that. But 2 bad decisions also cost us last year. The Dublin goal from the free shouldn't have been allowed, the free shouldve been retaken as the referee never blew his whistle to restart the game. That's in the rules. Then the penalty that wasn't in Nowlan Park. Thats in the rules also. Then the Rory sending off, in particular the 1st yellow. No malice or intent, a short player ducked into a tackle was all it was. Then there was the penalty that was but shouldn't have been up in Leitrim that cost our Footballers promotion. There was the Jacko sending off against Offaly that cost us a point also. Last year was a shocking one for us for bad refereeing, no point trying to dress it up as anything else.
This year is shaping up the same. Our minor Footballers were knocked out of Leinster because they lost to Carlow by a point. If we had drawn we would've won gone through instead of them. We scored a point that was waved wide.
Then there was the goal on Saturday that wasn't.
And as regards swings and roundabouts how many league or championship games did we win last year or this on account of bad decisions?"
Be patient viking our turn will come.

Tiger1 (Wexford) - Posts: 330 - 28/04/2025 18:24:19    2605141

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Replying To zinny:  "Yean but we always focus on decisions when we believe it costs us games and never when we win or even during games when they went in our favour. That's just human nature and happens all the time with all teams."
Agreed, Antrim and the lads on SER were even suggesting Antrim got a raw deal at Wexford Park a bit in the previous game. Maybe we will get a big decision in our favour in Salthill. Daithi Burke is a massive loss for starters. Maybe a number of our younger players will have learned a lot from the Dublin game and the panel will be stronger again. I don't think there is much between ourselves Dublin and Galway.

Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 388 - 28/04/2025 19:26:14    2605147

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Replying To zinny:  "Yean but we always focus on decisions when we believe it costs us games and never when we win or even during games when they went in our favour. That's just human nature and happens all the time with all teams."
I called it out last week we got the benefit of some dodgy decisions against Antrim. The contrast is they had almost no bearing on the result

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3532 - 28/04/2025 19:34:20    2605149

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Replying To MyOhMi:  "Even though the penalty save and subsequent goal were at a critical time, i still think Wexford had plenty of opportunities to win the game. Chin had two very bad wides from frees as had Reck and Donohoe. I do think Conor Foley was left too long at corner back too and the damage was done by the time he was eventually changed. Dublin outsmarted us and we didn't respond. No one expected their route 1 game and we let it happen. I'm not sure why Jack Redmond was named and subsequently dropped and not used. He had an ankle injury from the Antrim game but did line out for Rathnure yesterday in ACHL. Small forwards on a tight pitch rarely works.

However all is not lost - Wexford have done well in Salthill over the last few years. Galway V Dublin is probably going to be the big game that may decide the Leinster final pairing but also shape the remainder of our season.

Also what was wrong with the pitch - a spray job gone wrong?"
On the state of the pitch, we were told it was vandalism

goreyll (Wexford) - Posts: 150 - 28/04/2025 21:10:39    2605162

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Replying To Viking66:  "Ok. Last year we were knocked out of the Leinster Final by a shocking job of refereeing against Kilkenny. Dublin beat Galway well with no need for help from the officials.
The year before we beat Kilkenny, Dublin drew with Galway.
Is that recent enough for you?
In any case it all doesn't change the point I was making, which was that right now Galway are no more likely to beat Dublin than we are to beat Kilkenny. Obviously that might change between now and the last round of games depending on form and injuries."
Not to correct again…… but the year before in 23, they actually beat Dublin, they drew in 22 lol we're both 1 win and one loss in last two…and that loss last year was also the controversial David Burke red card day so I wouldnt say too many Galway people were happy with the officiating that day either.
I agree with the there's either team more likely to beat the other, but you did say that we're a lot more likely to beat Kilkenny than they are Dublin. We can't fall into that trap, was saying about how we can't keep going into last days and the whole year riding on the Kilkenny game cus we didn't do enough before it.

Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin (Wexford) - Posts: 312 - 28/04/2025 21:59:05    2605163

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Replying To zinny:  "Yean but we always focus on decisions when we believe it costs us games and never when we win or even during games when they went in our favour. That's just human nature and happens all the time with all teams."
Incorrect,there is no team that has been badly treated or had so much bad luck as wexford, we are just not getting the rub of the green,we need to speak and stand up more and fairplay to rossiter for speaking out after the match

fathermurphy (Wexford) - Posts: 326 - 28/04/2025 22:13:11    2605168

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Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin:  "Not to correct again…… but the year before in 23, they actually beat Dublin, they drew in 22 lol we're both 1 win and one loss in last two…and that loss last year was also the controversial David Burke red card day so I wouldnt say too many Galway people were happy with the officiating that day either.
I agree with the there's either team more likely to beat the other, but you did say that we're a lot more likely to beat Kilkenny than they are Dublin. We can't fall into that trap, was saying about how we can't keep going into last days and the whole year riding on the Kilkenny game cus we didn't do enough before it."
Of course. We need to win our next game. That's all that needs thinking about right now.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15507 - 28/04/2025 22:43:44    2605178

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