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Obviously couldn't see the penalty "goal" at the game but unfortunately have to say Dublin were the better team, ghost goal aside they deserved the win.

Have to question our tactics on the day to be honest and the fact is Chin and to a lesser extent O Connor and Reck aside we were physically dominated. Dublin literally rained high ball down all day and we couldn't cope and to compound it we set up in a way that encouraged them to do it.

I've said it previously I've never seen a wexford hurler more important to their tem than Lee Chin, we've had great hurlers before but not one that is literally as transformative as Chin is. He is simply phenomenal, him alone simply rises this team to a higher level,, just him, unbelievable.

Dublin didn't have to bring anything out of the ordinary to beat us, that's the worrying part, basic hurling and physicality won it for them.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1479 - 26/04/2025 20:28:32    2604472

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Replying To zinny:  "Will you stop, the better team won."
Have to agree without Burke and sucliffe we should have been good enough to win.The usual problems arose again missed frees no phsicality in the the middle third cant compete in the air and some of what we consider our best players are too in and out in games.All is not lost but how can we expect to improve if we keep doing the same things over and over again.Need a better game plan and cant be given up the puckouts to opposition we need to be quicker on the line as well we either have a panel or not.

Tiger1 (Wexford) - Posts: 327 - 26/04/2025 20:45:11    2604478

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Been saying it for years lads we are to small of a intercounty team not 1 of our backs other than Liam Ryan are over 6 foot.. our forwards other than Jack o Mac and chin are all under 6 foot… every puck out reigned down on chin today in 2nd half no other option.. on the game it's self couldn't see the peno decision as I was at the other terrice at far side.. what I did see was one of our backs catching the ball cleanly why couldn't he just clear it think it might of. Been mcguckian… other goals couldn't see who was at fault… think Liam Ryan should of been on at half time.. Dunbar terrible in first half and at least 3 of Dublin scores came from his fumbling and poor decisions.. management in my opinion should be questioned in why we didn't push up on puck outs.. there backs delivery into forwards killed us all day… chin immense again what we going to do when his not there..onto Galway now can see Jacki Mac and jippo all starting as we wil have to match them physically

gannett83 (Wexford) - Posts: 311 - 26/04/2025 21:15:44    2604486

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Too slow to make changes when it was painfully obvious we were struggling in defence and in the physical stakes.

Great movement and link-up play for the three goals from play, McGuickan's pass for Byrne's was a work of art (even if he made an unfortunate boo-boo in the lead-up to the penalty). Rory was unplayable at times, Byrne hit 1-1 off limited ball and I thought Kevin Foley worked his ass off, looks back to his best this campaign so far.

Someone mentioned Donohoe not fitting into the side but I think midfield suits him and he complements Hearne well. Can take a score too which we can't be snooty about. Foley superior at half-back than further back.

The all-time great Chin is to us what Bruno is currently to United, we'd be lost without him. And he wasn't even at his best, although seemed to be shook by the slap he got. I do feel that himself, Rory, Hearne in his current form, a fully-fit Jippo and Damien Reck on his best day would get on every team in the country, be it as a starter or first 5 subs. But our supporting cast, and most glaringly our strength in depth, wouldn't be on the same level.

Still plenty to play for. But to me, its imperative Jippo is in from the start vs. Galway (provided there is no injury setback) as there'll be no drop off in physicality between them and Dublin today.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1482 - 26/04/2025 21:17:47    2604488

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I dunno, I think there are some unfair comments being made about Dublin here, they were teriffic and could hardly have hurled any better, saying they didn't have to bring anything out of the ordinary doesn't align with hitting 3-26 and only 4 wides

I'm not sure we were even cleaned out that badly in the physical stakes up until their first goal but everything seemed to go south for us from that point on, we only really started hitting wides then and our decision-making went to pot

Think it's worth remembering that we gave away two goals to Dublin in two minutes and two goals to Antrim in maybe five minutes last year, three goals in five minutes today is a continuation of that and shows how soft our spine is. All those goals conceded happened without Jippo on the pitch; would we still be have been ok with him in the pitch, I don't know but what I do know is that we don't have any other full-back in the squad

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 451 - 26/04/2025 21:38:15    2604495

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "I dunno, I think there are some unfair comments being made about Dublin here, they were teriffic and could hardly have hurled any better, saying they didn't have to bring anything out of the ordinary doesn't align with hitting 3-26 and only 4 wides

I'm not sure we were even cleaned out that badly in the physical stakes up until their first goal but everything seemed to go south for us from that point on, we only really started hitting wides then and our decision-making went to pot

Think it's worth remembering that we gave away two goals to Dublin in two minutes and two goals to Antrim in maybe five minutes last year, three goals in five minutes today is a continuation of that and shows how soft our spine is. All those goals conceded happened without Jippo on the pitch; would we still be have been ok with him in the pitch, I don't know but what I do know is that we don't have any other full-back in the squad"
They knocked in a load of high ball, won most of it, and got scores out of it. That used to be the game of hurling and full credit to Dublin for recognising a weakness and exploiting it. But that's all they did! We have brilliant hurlers in this team, wonderful stickmen, but if we can't win our own ball and if we can't defend a high ball in the absence of Liam Ryan then what is the point! It's just an elaborate torture.

NR55 (Wexford) - Posts: 4 - 26/04/2025 22:28:05    2604504

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Replying To NR55:  "They knocked in a load of high ball, won most of it, and got scores out of it. That used to be the game of hurling and full credit to Dublin for recognising a weakness and exploiting it. But that's all they did! We have brilliant hurlers in this team, wonderful stickmen, but if we can't win our own ball and if we can't defend a high ball in the absence of Liam Ryan then what is the point! It's just an elaborate torture."
That's all they had to do

WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 353 - 26/04/2025 22:42:46    2604505

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I can't believe the two umpires told fanning the ball had not crossed the line,then was overruled by the ref. That was a massive momentum swing, I still feel we would of won that game today, the heads went down after penalty, , A massive save by Fanning which will be marked down as a goal for Dublin and no credit to Fanning, All games should have technology, we would of won that game today otherwise! Momentum swings are massive in hurling

fathermurphy (Wexford) - Posts: 323 - 26/04/2025 22:46:33    2604506

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Replying To hunting:  "Dark day for wexford senior hurling. The year is finished now, we just need to try and beat offaly to stay up in Liam McCarthy. I can't believe we left it so long to bring on Liam Ryan, the backs were cleaned out in the air but the biggest thing was not pushing up on their puck outs."
God that post is even more depressing than the performance. Dublin got the win they deserved because they worked harder and wanted it more. That's not to say we can't win our next 4 games and win Leinster.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15482 - 26/04/2025 23:58:57    2604513

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Replying To Yellow:  "Absolutely sickened with that.

Liam Ryan should have been brought in before the goals. Rossi brought him on too late. Too late to react on the line. Why concede the puck out when the Dublin backs were landing it on the D all the second half and getting a huge amount of scores from it, forwards should have stopped the short puck out. Ridiculous

Only brought on Liam Ryan when our championship was over

Really missed Jack today too. Ridiculous that the goal was given for the penalty. Fanning made a great save"
The only reason to concede short puckouts is so your forwards and midfielders can work like dogs to win it back. Or force poor balls forwards played under pressure. Collectively ours didn't. Dublins did.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15482 - 27/04/2025 00:00:55    2604514

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Replying To realdub:  "Was no goal, good game, i think we just about deserved it. Wexford's accuracy let them down more than anything."
Yep. we had nearly 3 times as many wides.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15482 - 27/04/2025 00:01:49    2604515

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Replying To Wexfordgaa:  "Chin looked to have broken his finger the second time he went off he really didn't look comfortable. I couldn't see from where I was to see the pen but saw pics and is a disgrace. How yer man hitting chin in the throat got away with it is scandalous. I do think the dubs were better and Rossi was slow on the line I would have had jippo on at ht. foley really struggled. Shooting again an issue."
In fairness to Conor he's a midfielder plugging holes at the back.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15482 - 27/04/2025 00:03:05    2604516

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Replying To Past hurler:  "How did Liam Ryan not start on Hetherton is he was able to come on for the last 15mins, sure the damage was all done at that stage??

Conor Foley is too much of a hurler for Hetheron, it was the losing of the game. Ryan would have broke a hurl off him in the first half if he put the hand up that much.

We scored 4-19, which is good but you can't give away 3-26."
Ryan looked very rusty to be fair when he came on. Got beaten in one high ball himself too. Must be a real concern about his fitness but 10-15mins at end of Antrim game surely would have been of benefit. The obvious change for me was an early swap of Donohue and Foley. Commentator mentioned it too. Donohue hit two horrible sides in first half and Foley was under pressure. Rossi had a strange day on the line. He improved for sure but Dunbar was very fortunate not to be hooked after about 20mins. Bringing Ryan on after three goals going in was too late and CBD for Byrne in the 73rd minute!

In any case, I don't think there was much in the game really. Both full back lines were incredibly weak so lots of goals and goal chances from direct ball. When you only have one forward capable of winning his own ball at this level you are going nowhere. ROC is a fine player ball in hand but that's not enough. Defensively we were a mess. Damien Reck awful again at 6. McGuckian despite doing well for our first goal simply nowhere near decisive enough in possession for this level. Dropping the ball after a great catch sums him up. Our weakness in the air at the back every team targets but we went back to very bad habits of not defending as a unit. One of the Dublin goals had a man left by himself inside for ages, our lads ball watching or their own man. With no 3 or 6 we are at nothing.

In saying all that I thought we were a little unfortunate on the day and not all is lost, referee played with the home team. Kevin Foley was our best I thought then Chin, Rory, Hearne and Cian Molloy had their moments. At least we are giving younger players a chance now but Foley and Lawlor were replaced, Lawlor struggling to step up to this level at midfield.

For the next day, maybe Damien Reck to midfield? Ryan x 2, S Reck, Foley, Molloy, maybe try Lawlor at 7 where he played in the league. Hearne, D Reck. KFoley, Chin, Rory, Byrne, Casey, CBD. Think Dunbar would be a better sub to come in.

Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 380 - 27/04/2025 00:06:04    2604518

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Replying To WEX98:  "All our backs are under 6ft.
Mat O Hanlon, Pauline Foley, Gypo all over 6ft.

Defence starts with attack"
Spot on. Our forwards put little to no pressure on their backs coming out with the ball.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15482 - 27/04/2025 00:06:52    2604519

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Replying To tearintom:  "Obviously couldn't see the penalty "goal" at the game but unfortunately have to say Dublin were the better team, ghost goal aside they deserved the win.

Have to question our tactics on the day to be honest and the fact is Chin and to a lesser extent O Connor and Reck aside we were physically dominated. Dublin literally rained high ball down all day and we couldn't cope and to compound it we set up in a way that encouraged them to do it.

I've said it previously I've never seen a wexford hurler more important to their tem than Lee Chin, we've had great hurlers before but not one that is literally as transformative as Chin is. He is simply phenomenal, him alone simply rises this team to a higher level,, just him, unbelievable.

Dublin didn't have to bring anything out of the ordinary to beat us, that's the worrying part, basic hurling and physicality won it for them."
That's unkind to Dublin to be honest. They outworked us, played at a higher tempo, won nearly every ruck in the 2nd half, broke faster than we did, wasted less ball, got turned over less often, made faster and better decisions, and just plain wanted it more. Alots been said about Hethertons size in posts here, but his hurling was excellent also.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15482 - 27/04/2025 00:11:02    2604522

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "I dunno, I think there are some unfair comments being made about Dublin here, they were teriffic and could hardly have hurled any better, saying they didn't have to bring anything out of the ordinary doesn't align with hitting 3-26 and only 4 wides

I'm not sure we were even cleaned out that badly in the physical stakes up until their first goal but everything seemed to go south for us from that point on, we only really started hitting wides then and our decision-making went to pot

Think it's worth remembering that we gave away two goals to Dublin in two minutes and two goals to Antrim in maybe five minutes last year, three goals in five minutes today is a continuation of that and shows how soft our spine is. All those goals conceded happened without Jippo on the pitch; would we still be have been ok with him in the pitch, I don't know but what I do know is that we don't have any other full-back in the squad"
Niall Murphy is a good fullback. Played there most of his life.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15482 - 27/04/2025 00:12:18    2604523

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Replying To NR55:  "They knocked in a load of high ball, won most of it, and got scores out of it. That used to be the game of hurling and full credit to Dublin for recognising a weakness and exploiting it. But that's all they did! We have brilliant hurlers in this team, wonderful stickmen, but if we can't win our own ball and if we can't defend a high ball in the absence of Liam Ryan then what is the point! It's just an elaborate torture."
They ran through us at will also.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15482 - 27/04/2025 00:12:48    2604524

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Replying To Past hurler:  "Brutal stuff, Charlie done the hard work breaks out past 2 lads and turns back towards his own goals and hand passed it to the Dublin forward.

I know Cathal Dunbar got 1-1 but he gave about 4 or 5 simple balls away in the first half that all lead to Dublin scores.

We have zero composure on the ball.
Everything is all panicky and fluffed."
However he wasn't alone in turning over possession. Everyone will look what happened at the back but we weathered that and at the end of the day it was the turnovers all over the field that killed us. If you look back you will also see we didn't come out the right side of the rucks either and that sometimes is down to physicality. Turnovers come from a hungry team and at times I just did not see that hunger in some of the play from Wexford but it was there from Dublin but also there off the ball and link play was far better especially when coming out of the defense. Hurling is now a possession game and if you give the ball away cheaply you will be punished.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1945 - 27/04/2025 04:47:32    2604528

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "You are delighted we were beaten."
Why? is it because I am not delusional as to our and other teams abilities?

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1945 - 27/04/2025 05:02:25    2604530

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It really was frustrating to look at.
To score 4.19 in 74 minutes was healthy.
To concede 3.26 was quite simply terrible.
Ryan's appearance late in the game was hard to fathom. Our full back line were all at sea every time they launched an attack. Our ariel ability, or lack of it caused endless problems. Jippo would most definately have had a steadying influence on this game. Hetherton had Conor Foley in his pocket and should have been shifted away from him much earlier. Management were slow to react to what was an obvious problem from the start.
Chin was Chin and his value to the team is immense. Unfortunately the same can't be said about the other forwards. Too often they were blown away by the Dublin backs.
The penalty was never a goal. Ridiculous decision by the officials. That goal was the turning point in the game. And then for them to hit the net again and again in quick succession was a real sickener.
I fear for the Galway match. They destroyed Offaly who gave Dublin a tough time last week.
However with Mac and Jippo starting in two weeks time surely we can expect a much improved all round performance but it won't be easy in Salthill.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 430 - 27/04/2025 06:41:03    2604535

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