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Replying To edu: "In 2024 the football season had 27 matchdays [Weekends from the start of the N.L to the A.I.C Final. Now the N.L took up 10 of those 27 matchdays Including 2 rest matchdays . That is 38% of the football calendar. Does that not seem overly obsessive for a competition that is the secondary competition?"]I get you Edu but the league positions gives seedings for the championship. I think it should be the only competition to determine the seedings. They could run some rounds of the league, play provincial championships with no bearing on seeding or All Ireland qualification, then the remaining rounds of the leagues. With seedings to play for and no provincial final finish type of backdoor for All Ireland it might spice up the league a bit. It would also give counties a fairly even break before championship, not like the staggered times because of the different lengths of provincial championships. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7702 - 21/12/2024 15:57:49 2584239 Link
Replying To omahant: "Yeah it's too much and it reduces the flexibility to have a better All Ireland. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4343 - 21/12/2024 10:32:39 Yeah, keep 'em as a 'subset' and have a better All Ireland (AILC) - am I a broken record?" The league is a tried and tested format. It provides a fair ranking 1 to 32. The key is to utilise that ranking for balanced provincial draws and/or balanced draws for qualifiers. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8385 - 21/12/2024 16:13:59 2584240 Link
Replying To Whammo86: " Replying To edu: "In 2024 the football season had 27 matchdays [Weekends from the start of the N.L to the A.I.C Final. Now the N.L took up 10 of those 27 matchdays Including 2 rest matchdays . That is 38% of the football calendar. Does that not seem overly obsessive for a competition that is the secondary competition?" Yeah it's too much and it reduces the flexibility to have a better All Ireland."]The NFL accounts for over 50% of senior inter Co competitive games. Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2003 - 21/12/2024 17:14:53 2584243 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "The league is a tried and tested format. It provides a fair ranking 1 to 32. The key is to utilise that ranking for balanced provincial draws and/or balanced draws for qualifiers." Indeed, the league is tried & tested and ranks teams 1-32. I use that ranking to determine my three-tier AIC (e.g. 1-8 to Sam AFL-style playoffs; 9-20 to Shield KO; & 21-28 to Plate KO (could be Tailteann Cup). I use ranking (9-12) for Shield PQF byes/Tier 1 status retention. I was silent on Prov seeding, but it could be used there too. I suppose in the AILC, Prov seeding is not as critical because all play 12 (or 10) 'own tier' teams (3 from each of 4 seeding pots), regardless of how the Prov subset breaks down. omahant (USA) - Posts: 2940 - 21/12/2024 19:53:24 2584251 Link
Replying To omahant: "Indeed, the league is tried & tested and ranks teams 1-32. I use that ranking to determine my three-tier AIC (e.g. 1-8 to Sam AFL-style playoffs; 9-20 to Shield KO; & 21-28 to Plate KO (could be Tailteann Cup). I use ranking (9-12) for Shield PQF byes/Tier 1 status retention. I was silent on Prov seeding, but it could be used there too. I suppose in the AILC, Prov seeding is not as critical because all play 12 (or 10) 'own tier' teams (3 from each of 4 seeding pots), regardless of how the Prov subset breaks down." You say 1-8 AFL style playoffs. The GAA are essentially going with a 16 team AFL style playoff in your language, albeit 8 provincial finalists and 8 qualifiers. You say three tier AIC. The GAA have the All Ireland and Tailteann. The GAA did speak with counties about introducing a third tier. Hasn't gained traction so far but probably will in time. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8385 - 21/12/2024 21:21:01 2584257 Link
@GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7702 - 21/12/2024 15:57:49 What about having those Prov SFC games awarding match pts as league ties as well (per my AILC), which ultimately determines league seeding? The difference in Prov SFC length woud be neutralised - each team either plays more Prov games, or 'league only' games instead, for the same game total. omahant (USA) - Posts: 2940 - 22/12/2024 01:00:19 2584262 Link