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Replying To Commodore:  "100% agree, nobody should be forced to take a vaccine, it should always be optional.

I got the Covid jabs, I was aware of risks, but a few people in my neighbourhood died in quick succession in the first wave of Covid, including a friend of mine who had underlying health condition which he wasn't aware of. While I get people taking exception to it being forced upon them, I weighed up the options and opted to get it."
I got it too. It was a personal choice. Plus I needed to go to a Funeral and board a plane. I followed their rules.

SouthGalway (Galway) - Posts: 137 - 17/12/2025 14:41:24    2648683

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Replying To zinny:  "The most recent French one was the largest ever on Covid

Findings In this cohort study including 22.7 million vaccinated individuals and 5.9 million unvaccinated individuals, vaccinated individuals had a 74% lower risk of death from severe COVID-19 and no increased risk of all-cause mortality over a median follow-up of 45 months.

Given the vindictiveness of the current administration do you not think that if there was some sort of coverup around the vaccines that it would not be front and center. There has been zero attention focused on it by the administration and that is with a anti vaxer in charge."
Good post. I think they have to pick their fights carefully as the current administration has 3 years left and maybe only 1 year left if the midterms go wrong for them. Taking on Big Pharma would be far tougher than the old lawsuits against Big Tobacco due to Big Pharma does do some good things whereas Big Tobacco did nothing good for public health.

I'm skeptical of some of these studies as I don't know who funds them or who loses funding if the proper results aren't found. I do appreciate your attempt though.

SouthGalway (Galway) - Posts: 137 - 17/12/2025 14:48:47    2648684

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This might be a very simplistic way of viewing vaccines.

But what is the alternative? Dealing with horrible outbreaks of measles, mumps, flus and God knows what else?

I know a few anti-vaxxers locally who are never afraid to share their stance. But the same ones are over-weight smokers like.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 10165 - 17/12/2025 14:54:37    2648685

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "This might be a very simplistic way of viewing vaccines.

But what is the alternative? Dealing with horrible outbreaks of measles, mumps, flus and God knows what else?

I know a few anti-vaxxers locally who are never afraid to share their stance. But the same ones are over-weight smokers like."
People like that are irrelevant

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2630 - 17/12/2025 15:24:57    2648688

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Replying To Viking66:  "I'm not an anti vaxxer in geral. Far from it. I made sure all of my children got all of their vaccines. Just not the covid ones."
I wouldn't either

jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1842 - 17/12/2025 15:28:10    2648691

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "This might be a very simplistic way of viewing vaccines.

But what is the alternative? Dealing with horrible outbreaks of measles, mumps, flus and God knows what else?

I know a few anti-vaxxers locally who are never afraid to share their stance. But the same ones are over-weight smokers like."
I'm personally not a so-called "anti-vaxxer", but I respect peoples choice to make that decision for themselves and I don't like labelling people based on their preference.

The Covid-19 vaccines were rushed to market because of the outbreak, and they weren't road tested in the normal way, so there was always going to be a level of risk to be considered. I can fully understand people having reservations about them. I opted to get them and that is my personal choice.

Outside of Covid jabs, I think each vaccine needs to be weighed up on their own merit, some of those are proven to be effective. Others are debatable.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1535 - 17/12/2025 22:11:30    2648726

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I think a bigger concern for Irish people is the amount of access that revenue have to people financial accounts at present.
I understand wanting to look for money laundering or illegal activity, but such behaviour is conducted by a tiny percentage of the population, maybe less than 1%. Yet they are monitoring everything, its like you would see in an old Soviet Union movie set during the Cold War.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1535 - 17/12/2025 22:17:57    2648727

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Rather amusing to listen to people now saying they took vaccines despite the risks.

99.9% took them because they were told to take them.

Those of us who didn't were barred from many public places, some lost jobs and we were attacked as dangers to public health and as extremists.

Just as minority who see through their lies always have been.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3878 - 17/12/2025 23:00:06    2648729

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Replying To Saynothing:  "The biggest crime was committed by the media who pushed and slammed down anyone who questioned it. I'm another one who regrets taking the first 3 vaccinations. Feeling wrecked with little energy on more days than I ever did and I blame in vaccine."
You couldn't mention any concern about the rapidly developed vaccines on here either back then or you'd get your head bitten off and be accused of being a conspiracy theorist by the same type of lefties who are still crying on this thread day in day out about something or other.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3607 - 17/12/2025 23:26:26    2648731

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Replying To Commodore:  "I think a bigger concern for Irish people is the amount of access that revenue have to people financial accounts at present.
I understand wanting to look for money laundering or illegal activity, but such behaviour is conducted by a tiny percentage of the population, maybe less than 1%. Yet they are monitoring everything, its like you would see in an old Soviet Union movie set during the Cold War."
If you are worried about that then you should be terrified of your phone. The social media companies know more about you and your personal details, which they trade for money, than the government. At least the government is some ways held accountable. Who is overseeing all the data that is being gathered on you through your phone on a daily basis?

FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 518 - 18/12/2025 08:51:41    2648746

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Well each to their own.

But I know personally speaking, I was sick to the back teeth of "staying at home" and not being able to mix with family or friends. That wasn't living. If taking a jab or two meant things returning to normal then I was all for it.

Yes there was probably risk involved, because of the way it was rolled out so quickly. But getting in your car every day carries inherent risk too.

Lots of pseudo scientists (not here!) watched a few YouTube clips and suddenly became vaccine experts.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 10165 - 18/12/2025 09:41:04    2648748

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "You couldn't mention any concern about the rapidly developed vaccines on here either back then or you'd get your head bitten off and be accused of being a conspiracy theorist by the same type of lefties who are still crying on this thread day in day out about something or other."
Wasnt it the right wingers pushing the vaccines? FFG.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17822 - 18/12/2025 10:03:52    2648749

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