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Replying To alalalalalum:  "As a wise rugby man once said...'we lost, but we won'"
A lot of talk about Crowley v Prendergast, but a more pertinent question might be which of these two can ever become a shadow of the player that Sexton was. The answer increasingly seems to be neither. With an ordinary no10, this Irish side is starting to look increasingly average. It's looking like an opportune time right now to reinfuse our backline options with 3or4 new young southern hemisphere talents, because Bundee, Lowe and Gibson Park won't last forever either.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4484 - 23/11/2025 10:12:17    2645716

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "They negotiated in same way mouse negotiates with cobra. With the mouse being the cobra's pet.

All those informers in Belfast had game sown up before the ball was thrown in."
In fairness there were multiple reasons. Adams and others saw the potential of political struggle after the hunger strikes. Add to that PIRA was infiltrated to the highest levels. You also had conflict fatigue and a spate of attacks on ordinary Catholics in the early 90s by loyalists. You also had the realpolitik of the end of the Cold War. US tightening up on funds for separtist movements and determined to settle the conflict here. Less allies for republicans to deal with globally after the USSR gone. The likes of Gaddafi completely isolated. They could exit stage left and get something out of it or be ejected through the back door.

FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 488 - 23/11/2025 10:31:10    2645718

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Replying To FullOfPorter:  "In fairness there were multiple reasons. Adams and others saw the potential of political struggle after the hunger strikes. Add to that PIRA was infiltrated to the highest levels. You also had conflict fatigue and a spate of attacks on ordinary Catholics in the early 90s by loyalists. You also had the realpolitik of the end of the Cold War. US tightening up on funds for separtist movements and determined to settle the conflict here. Less allies for republicans to deal with globally after the USSR gone. The likes of Gaddafi completely isolated. They could exit stage left and get something out of it or be ejected through the back door."
Even if the Brits keft the 6 Cos the Provos were never going to achieve a "32 County Socialist Republic" because most people in Ireland were/are opposed to such a mythical place.

Seanfan (Roscommon) - Posts: 237 - 23/11/2025 11:06:23    2645724

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Why did Ireland opt to play the world champions in their unfamiliar white kit and let South Africa play in their famous green jerseys. Didn't affect the result one iota but seems an odd decision.

tireoghainabu (Tyrone) - Posts: 439 - 23/11/2025 11:15:26    2645725

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Replying To Seanfan:  "Even if the Brits keft the 6 Cos the Provos were never going to achieve a "32 County Socialist Republic" because most people in Ireland were/are opposed to such a mythical place."
A 32 county Republic is not a "mythical place." It was voted for by the Irish people in 1918. The socialist part was stuck on later, ironically by the same people who not only abandoned a 32 county republic, but also any pretence to be socialist!

Sinn Féin are a run of the mill centre left liberal part. They have at last found their true home along with Bacik and Cairns and Murphy. Pity they didn't spare their own people and everyone else all the wasted lives in deaths, prison, and so on before it was handed over to carpet baggers who never had anything to do with the movement when it was pursuing its sole objective of Irish unity.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3836 - 23/11/2025 11:53:00    2645731

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