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How are you measuring 'what can be achieved'? Did your parents have the same occupation that you have now? How are you measuring 'working harder' than anyone my age I know from same place, school, etc? Are you working harder than them or working smarter? GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7651 - 05/11/2024 21:42:34 2578513 Link 1 |
They may have worked hard but they were exceptionally lucky. We were taught to get a degree and a career and you'd do well. That simply isn't reality. Supply and demand is quite simple. The demand isn't driven by healthy competition, it's driven by a chronic lack of supply. I'd argue our generation actually need to abandon the housing market and let it collapse. There's no value in it. We're being robbed more than any previous generation. The unfortunate thing is we all need a place to live. My parents were fortunate to purchase a home in 85 for 17k like I mentioned earlier. They sold it exactly 20 years later for 278. That's luck. No amount of hard work can turn that kind of profit. My auld lad has worked hard in the same manufacturing job for his entire life, with an exceptionally strong union which is now almost a thing of the past, he's the first to admit he's sitting on more money than he has time to spend it. The result of some work and obscene luck. Those opportunities do not exist for us. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3148 - 05/11/2024 21:48:57 2578516 Link 1 |
There was little or no interest in the Irish language or the GAA in those areas when most of the people living there were born and bred there.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13884 - 05/11/2024 22:02:45 2578517 Link 1 |
OK. If we take Median income instead of Average then we have to take median house prices instead of average too. It only works if you go like for like. Median income for a couple works out at 85k plus change. That allows borrowing of 297.5k for a mortgage of 327.25k. That's enough for the median house price in 22 of the 26 counties (data doesn't include the 6 counties). Of course, it's not enough for a house in Dublin - so back to my point: people need to open their mind to the notion of a commute to work. link cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5194 - 06/11/2024 03:13:48 2578530 Link 0 |
If we look back on the stats for the Gaeltacht itself, - and I did - concern was being expressed for the last 20 yrs or more about the " Anglification" of those Gaelic speaking areas or increasing lack of enthusiasm for it. Just facts - not alternate facts. Hard to blame immigration for that.
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1271 - 06/11/2024 08:02:41 2578536 Link 0 |
Now, now. Don't be projecting. I am the one presenting rational argument with statistics. Strangers to many of you here and your emoting. This sort of thing no longer works as the American landslide for Trump proves. We need to catch up quickly. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3126 - 06/11/2024 08:28:55 2578537 Link 2 |
You are indeed correct, self explanatory.
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3052 - 06/11/2024 09:02:06 2578539 Link 0 |
Median salary in Ireland is 36k pa. Also you are using an example which isn't typical of the average Irish household. Most families do not have 2 parents working fulltime. And you aren't factoring in childcare costs for those families who are. Finally Median house prices include numerous 1 bedroom apartments which aren't suitable for families in the 1st place. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13884 - 06/11/2024 09:28:13 2578542 Link 0 |
Doesn't that say more about American society than it does about anything else? They'd rather a convicted criminal as the leader of their country?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13884 - 06/11/2024 09:30:12 2578543 Link 3 |
Delighted to see President Trump win again and a massive congratulations to him and his team, a fantastic victory and a slap in the face for all the cry baby woke lefties, the media are so woke and left to hear the disappointment in their wee voices is music to my ears. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3032 - 06/11/2024 09:44:40 2578548 Link 0 |
Congratulations to Donald J Trump. Great victory. Well deserved. I couldn't be happier. Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2263 - 06/11/2024 09:47:14 2578549 Link 1 |
I bought my own house less than 4 years ago. I have no intention of selling it but I did get it valued when my initial 3 years fixed term was up (to lower my LTV). It was valued 8 months ago at 130k more than I paid for it 4 years ago. A similar one in a neighbouring estate in the town i live sold for another 105k above that again. So the opportunity to make a sizeable profit absolutely does exist there. (As of course does the potential for it to fall flat) cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5194 - 06/11/2024 10:11:57 2578555 Link 0 |
Yes, a nation of immigrants vote for hatred of "lesser" immigrants. We don't need to choose that. I certainly never will
Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12200 - 06/11/2024 10:27:43 2578557 Link 1 |
Would have been greater, if he took out Sleepy Joe. Kamala was always going to be a pushover/'great victory'.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3875 - 06/11/2024 11:28:53 2578560 Link 0 |
. . . house prices rising well above inflation for over 10 years now; up 37% since 2020; 10% annual increase on top of this right now. But this time its different - right?? We all know how this ends.
brianb (Kildare) - Posts: 356 - 06/11/2024 11:38:35 2578561 Link 0 |
Hahahahaha Cry baby woke lefties? Fo you even understand any of those words? What issues do you want politicians here to be so concerned with then KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3674 - 06/11/2024 11:43:48 2578564 Link 0 |
Congratulations man, what a win for you and your people. I'd say Trump is personally very grateful for your specific support. What an achievement for you. You really stuck it to Elon Musk and Jeff Bezo's cry baby woke lefty media
Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12200 - 06/11/2024 11:57:32 2578566 Link 0 |
The stand out memory for me in the US election campaign was Harris and Trump arguing as to who was the bigger friend of Israel as innocent men, women and children were being slaughtered in their thousands. I used to have some respect for that country but not any more and couldn't care less who got elected. tireoghainabu (Tyrone) - Posts: 338 - 06/11/2024 12:18:55 2578567 Link 0 |
Congratulations to you. We're in a minority in our generation to be able to buy. It takes great discipline so fair play. The problem is to realise that value you have to sell, and the same inflation is happening everywhere so you won't see any profit. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3148 - 06/11/2024 12:31:27 2578570 Link 0 |
That's precisely the point I was trying to make. The numbers are inherently flawed.
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3148 - 06/11/2024 12:33:18 2578571 Link 0 |